Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors

2010-04-18 Thread Darren.Mansell
-Original Message- From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-uk- boun...@lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Liam Proven Sent: 16 April 2010 13:49 To: UK Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 1:38 PM, javadayaz javada

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors

2010-04-17 Thread Martin Topping
On Fri, 2010-04-16 at 15:36 +0100, Thomas Ibbotson wrote: Does anyone know how SSDs compare in terms of lifetime? I know theoretically they have a shorter lifetime than conventional hard drives, but in practice? Stuff like this - http://www.storagesearch.com/ssdmyths-endurance.html - has lead

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors

2010-04-17 Thread Rob Beard
On 16/04/10 11:44, Adam Bagnall wrote: As a true last resort you can try putting the drive in a sealed bag (to prevent condensation) and then in the freezer for a few hours. A quick google shows there are many reports of this working, although I've never tried it and hope I never have to...

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors

2010-04-17 Thread Rob Beard
On 16/04/10 13:38, javadayaz wrote: the hard drive is only a few months old btw If it's only a few months old then you can possibly get it replaced under warranty, but you'd need to get the data off it first of course as you'll get a blank drive back. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors

2010-04-17 Thread Rob Beard
On 16/04/10 14:52, Alan Lord (News) wrote: On 16/04/10 14:46, David King wrote: Western Digital hard drives are not known for reliability. I avoid them due to the bad experiences I have read about these drives. I have tended toward Samsung (1st choice) or Hitachi (2nd) for HDDs for years

[ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors

2010-04-16 Thread javadayaz
My brother has just had his hard drive fail. Testdisk is saying All bad sectors. Is there anything that can be done to rescue the data? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors

2010-04-16 Thread javadayaz
i dont think there is a backup :) i will recommend spinrite to him. On 16 April 2010 11:17, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: On 16 April 2010 11:08, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: My brother has just had his hard drive fail. Testdisk is saying All bad sectors. Is there anything that

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors

2010-04-16 Thread Simon Greenwood
On 16 April 2010 11:08, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: My brother has just had his hard drive fail. Testdisk is saying All bad sectors. Is there anything that can be done to rescue the data? If he (or you) have another machine, it could be removed and put in that either directly or

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors

2010-04-16 Thread javadayaz
i dont think he has another machine. He is using ubuntu one on his netbook but i will forward this option to him as well. On 16 April 2010 11:21, Simon Greenwood sfgreenw...@gmail.com wrote: On 16 April 2010 11:08, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: My brother has just had his hard

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors

2010-04-16 Thread Adam Bagnall
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:23 AM, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: i dont think he has another machine. He is using ubuntu one on his netbook but i will forward this option to him as well. On 16 April 2010 11:21, Simon Greenwood sfgreenw...@gmail.com wrote: On 16 April 2010

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors

2010-04-16 Thread javadayaz
cool will forward this as well On 16 April 2010 11:44, Adam Bagnall bagna...@googlemail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:23 AM, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: i dont think he has another machine. He is using ubuntu one on his netbook but i will forward this option to him

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors

2010-04-16 Thread John Stevenson
On 16 April 2010 11:23, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: i dont think he has another machine. He is using ubuntu one on his netbook but i will forward this option to him as well. On 16 April 2010 11:21, Simon Greenwood sfgreenw...@gmail.com wrote: On 16 April 2010 11:08,

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors

2010-04-16 Thread John Stevenson
On 16 April 2010 11:44, Adam Bagnall bagna...@googlemail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:23 AM, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: i dont think he has another machine. He is using ubuntu one on his netbook but i will forward this option to him as well. On 16 April 2010

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors

2010-04-16 Thread javadayaz
its a hard drive attached to the netbook. Funnily enough this is his third HD...and is a western digital HD as well. On 16 April 2010 12:20, John Stevenson j...@jr0cket.com wrote: On 16 April 2010 11:44, Adam Bagnall bagna...@googlemail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:23 AM,

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors

2010-04-16 Thread Dan Attwood
I've done the freezer trick before on a failing hard drive and it does work. I found it best to wrap the drive up and give it half an hour in the freezer and then when you take it out balance it circuit board down on a pack of frozen sausages to keep it cooler for longer. However I don't think

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors

2010-04-16 Thread javadayaz
Quote my brother: I don't think it's a sector issue because its practically impossible for every sector to have become corrupt overnight. Rather, I think the mbr may have got corrupted somehow and needs to be rebuilt but that wud need to wipe the whole thing. Is there a recover utility that

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors

2010-04-16 Thread Alan Pope
On 16 April 2010 12:54, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: Quote my brother:  I don't think it's a sector issue because its practically impossible for every sector to have become corrupt overnight. Rather, I think the mbr may have got corrupted somehow and needs to be rebuilt but that wud

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors

2010-04-16 Thread javadayaz
thank you...i will forward this to him On 16 April 2010 13:00, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: On 16 April 2010 12:54, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: Quote my brother: I don't think it's a sector issue because its practically impossible for every sector to have become corrupt

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors

2010-04-16 Thread javadayaz
quote : The problem is that testdisk cant find any partitions at all.. or even read any data off it On 16 April 2010 13:00, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: On 16 April 2010 12:54, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: Quote my brother: I don't think it's a sector issue because its

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors

2010-04-16 Thread Alan Pope
On 16 April 2010 13:19, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: quote : The problem is that testdisk cant find any partitions at all.. or even read any data off it Unlikely to be the mbr then. More likely the circuitry, controller on the motherboard or disk itself. All of which are hardware

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors

2010-04-16 Thread javadayaz
thank you again. will forward your advice. On 16 April 2010 13:30, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: On 16 April 2010 13:19, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: quote : The problem is that testdisk cant find any partitions at all.. or even read any data off it Unlikely to be the mbr

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors

2010-04-16 Thread Liam Proven
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 1:38 PM, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: the hard drive is only a few months old btw Please try to put your replies /below/ the text you're quoting. Does your brother tend to treat his disks roughly? That kind of failure rate implies it's the user, not the hardware.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors

2010-04-16 Thread David King
Adam Bagnall wrote: As a true last resort you can try putting the drive in a sealed bag (to prevent condensation) and then in the freezer for a few hours. A quick google shows there are many reports of this working, although I've never tried it and hope I never have to... Regards,

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors

2010-04-16 Thread David King
javadayaz wrote: the hard drive is only a few months old btw Western Digital hard drives are not known for reliability. I avoid them due to the bad experiences I have read about these drives. David -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors

2010-04-16 Thread Alan Lord (News)
On 16/04/10 14:46, David King wrote: Western Digital hard drives are not known for reliability. I avoid them due to the bad experiences I have read about these drives. I have tended toward Samsung (1st choice) or Hitachi (2nd) for HDDs for years now. Not had one every fail - yet. (But I still

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors

2010-04-16 Thread Thomas Ibbotson
On 16 April 2010 15:26, David King linux...@avoura.com wrote: Alan Lord (News) wrote: I have tended toward Samsung (1st choice) or Hitachi (2nd) for HDDs for years now. Not had one every fail - yet. (But I still take nightly backups) Al I have had a Hitachi DeskStar go bad recently. They

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors

2010-04-16 Thread Adam Bagnall
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Thomas Ibbotson thomas.ibbot...@gmail.comwrote: On 16 April 2010 15:26, David King linux...@avoura.com wrote: Alan Lord (News) wrote: I have tended toward Samsung (1st choice) or Hitachi (2nd) for HDDs for years now. Not had one every fail - yet. (But I

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors

2010-04-16 Thread John Stevenson
On 16 April 2010 15:26, David King linux...@avoura.com wrote: Alan Lord (News) wrote: I have tended toward Samsung (1st choice) or Hitachi (2nd) for HDDs for years now. Not had one every fail - yet. (But I still take nightly backups) Al I have had a Hitachi DeskStar go bad

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors

2010-04-16 Thread David King
David King wrote: I have had a Hitachi DeskStar go bad recently. They are even nicknamed DeathStar due to a high failure rate years ago when the brand was still owned by IBM. Samsung drives have so far been good for me. david Sorry, I was looking at the wrong drive, it was a