Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......

2010-06-11 Thread Rob Beard
On 10/06/2010 21:23, John Matthews wrote: Unfortunately. that is all that happens, you click on the recovery link, and it goes black, then it freezes, and you cant do anything at all after. That goes for each kernel recovery link. Until that update a couple of weeks ago it worked. The reason

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......

2010-06-11 Thread Matthew Bassett
On 11 June 2010 01:36, jakewc2 jake...@sky.com wrote: Ok, I cant sleep, and have found that file you wanted,  http://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org/66604 Hope that helps. John OK: Comparing the normal boot to the recovery it looks like they are both the same. I'm wondering if the issue could be the

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......

2010-06-11 Thread Michael G Fletcher
On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Matthew Bassett hewb...@gmail.com wrote: Assuming this fixes your issue, then I _think_ the place to make these changes permanent is the file /etc/default/grub; remove text of the form vga=791, and then run the command sudo update-grub to regenerate the grub

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......

2010-06-11 Thread Jim Price
Matthew Bassett wrote: On 11 June 2010 01:36, jakewc2 jake...@sky.com wrote: Ok, I cant sleep, and have found that file you wanted, �http://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org/66604 Hope that helps. John OK: Comparing the normal boot to the recovery it looks like they are both the same. I'm

[ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......

2010-06-10 Thread John Matthews
A couple of weeks ago, I posted about problems I was having, and one of those was recovery, though the grub. Didnt matter what kernel I clicked on it froze and nothing happened. This week, we had a partial upgrade, which cleaned up my grub for me, removing all but two kernels. Problem is, I

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......

2010-06-10 Thread John Matthews
On 10/06/10 08:20, John Matthews wrote: A couple of weeks ago, I posted about problems I was having, and one of those was recovery, though the grub. Didnt matter what kernel I clicked on it froze and nothing happened. This week, we had a partial upgrade, which cleaned up my grub for me,

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......

2010-06-10 Thread Alan Lord (News)
On 10/06/10 19:08, John Matthews wrote: snip / Ok, I posted this almost 12 hours ago, I just wondered can somebody help please? Hi John, we are all volunteers and normal people on this list offering advice for free. If someone has a suggestion to help you I'm sure they will read and

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......

2010-06-10 Thread Tyler J. Wagner
On Thursday 10 June 2010 23:44:29 Alan Bell wrote: ah, interesting, this is new information. A fresh install of Lucid does not show grub at all unless you hold shift, although thinking about it it might have to for dual boot setups. At the top of the grub screen it should list the version

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......

2010-06-10 Thread John Matthews
On 10/06/10 19:33, Alan Lord (News) wrote: On 10/06/10 19:08, John Matthews wrote: snip / Ok, I posted this almost 12 hours ago, I just wondered can somebody help please? Hi John, we are all volunteers and normal people on this list offering advice for free. If someone has a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......

2010-06-10 Thread Bill Cumming
On 10 June 2010 23:28, John Matthews jake...@sky.com wrote: On 10/06/10 23:21, Alan Bell wrote: John Matthews wrote: Ok, I dont know what else I can tell you. What I have told is all that happens. I click on the recover link under the kernal when in the grub, and it freezes after about

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......

2010-06-10 Thread Alan Bell
John Matthews wrote: I have actually asked if I could get some paid help, and all I got was this pre written e-mail sent telling nothing useful. John Another thing you could do if you want a more interactive conversation (which the rapid emails indicate that you might) is to get on

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......

2010-06-10 Thread John Matthews
On 10/06/10 19:33, Alan Lord (News) wrote: On 10/06/10 19:08, John Matthews wrote: snip / Ok, I posted this almost 12 hours ago, I just wondered can somebody help please? Hi John, we are all volunteers and normal people on this list offering advice for free. If someone has a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......

2010-06-10 Thread Alan Bell
John Matthews wrote: Yes, but unfortunately, that hasnt been a very good option for me either. I prefer the e-mail to be honest. John Email is good when you just want one answer to a question. If you want someone to help you do something then IRC is better. People don't reply to emails

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......

2010-06-10 Thread John Matthews
On 10/06/10 21:19, Alan Bell wrote: John Matthews wrote: Yes, but unfortunately, that hasnt been a very good option for me either. I prefer the e-mail to be honest. John Email is good when you just want one answer to a question. If you want someone to help you do something

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......

2010-06-10 Thread John Matthews
On 10/06/10 19:33, Alan Lord (News) wrote: On 10/06/10 19:08, John Matthews wrote: snip / Ok, I posted this almost 12 hours ago, I just wondered can somebody help please? Hi John, we are all volunteers and normal people on this list offering advice for free. If someone has a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......

2010-06-10 Thread Alan Bell
John Matthews wrote: It also kind of negates this 'Improving Support' thread really, doesnt it, nothing has really changed has it, the same thing comes across, you are all 'just' volunteers, which you do push down peoples throats. I wish I could something about it, I would like to be able

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......

2010-06-10 Thread John Matthews
On 10/06/10 20:50, Alan Bell wrote: One interesting effect of the group support vs one on one support is that with group support if there is some weird problem that nobody understands (which may be down to the way it is described) then you get silence as a response, rather than I haven't got

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......

2010-06-10 Thread Alan Bell
John Matthews wrote: What is the point of having IRC chat and this e-mail chat, when nobody is prepared to help. Its kind of really a piss take when you get threads that talk about changing the way support is given, but all you get is those same people can just barely post to take you to

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......

2010-06-10 Thread John Matthews
On 10/06/10 23:00, Chris Rowson wrote: What is the point of having IRC chat and this e-mail chat, when nobody is prepared to help. Its kind of really a piss take when you get threads that talk about changing the way support is given, but all you get is those same people can just barely post to

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......

2010-06-10 Thread John Matthews
On 10/06/10 23:04, Alan Bell wrote: I would encourage you to take steps that would lead to more information being available, the more information you can provide the more likely it is that someone will understand what is occurring. Installing a small dual boot partition might provide

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......

2010-06-10 Thread Alan Bell
John Matthews wrote: The grub appears as its booting up. It has a list of two kernels with recvoery underneath and a few other things, including the xp partition, that I tried getting help for months ago, but that didnt get anywhere either. I then learnt by accident, that this grub had a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......

2010-06-10 Thread John Matthews
On 10/06/10 21:19, Alan Bell wrote: Email is good when you just want one answer to a question. If you want someone to help you do something then IRC is better. People don't reply to emails saying I have no idea because it isn't a particularly useful response and a few hours later someone else

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......

2010-06-10 Thread John Matthews
On 10/06/10 22:39, Chris Rowson wrote: John Matthews wrote: Isnt it funny really, you are all too busy to answer an e-mail, because you are all volunteers, yet you arent too busy to chat quite avidly about games and things like that on IRC. From what I see that happens all day on IRC.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......

2010-06-10 Thread Chris Rowson
John Matthews wrote: Isnt it funny really, you are all too busy to answer an e-mail, because you are all volunteers, yet you arent too busy to chat quite avidly about games and things like that on IRC. From what I see that happens all day on IRC. No wonder you dont have the time. Yep,

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......

2010-06-10 Thread John Matthews
On 10/06/10 19:33, Alan Lord (News) wrote: On 10/06/10 19:08, John Matthews wrote: snip / Ok, I posted this almost 12 hours ago, I just wondered can somebody help please? Hi John, we are all volunteers and normal people on this list offering advice for free. If someone has a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......

2010-06-10 Thread Alan Bell
John Matthews wrote: Ok, I dont know what else I can tell you. What I have told is all that happens. I click on the recover link under the kernal when in the grub, and it freezes after about 20 secs. Nothing else happens, no script comes up, no other boxes, I cannot get into a terminal. It

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......

2010-06-10 Thread Alan Bell
John Matthews wrote: Isnt it funny really, you are all too busy to answer an e-mail, because you are all volunteers, yet you arent too busy to chat quite avidly about games and things like that on IRC. From what I see that happens all day on IRC. No wonder you dont have the time. Yep,

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......

2010-06-10 Thread John Matthews
On 10/06/10 21:03, Alan Bell wrote: John Matthews wrote: I have actually asked if I could get some paid help, and all I got was this pre written e-mail sent telling nothing useful. John Another thing you could do if you want a more interactive conversation (which the rapid

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......

2010-06-10 Thread Alan Bell
John Matthews wrote: Yes I have tried using the answer system, and posting questions, but havent been able to get an answer. I got told a couple of weeks ago somebody on here had an answer, and was going to post a video to help. But, as I posted earlier, nothing has been done, which is why

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......

2010-06-10 Thread Alan Bell
John Matthews wrote: On 10/06/10 23:04, Alan Bell wrote: I would encourage you to take steps that would lead to more information being available, the more information you can provide the more likely it is that someone will understand what is occurring. Installing a small dual boot

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......

2010-06-10 Thread Chris Rowson
What is the point of having IRC chat and this e-mail chat, when nobody is prepared to help. Its kind of really a piss take when you get threads that talk about changing the way support is given, but all you get is those same people can just barely post to take you to task, yet they cant be

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......

2010-06-10 Thread John Matthews
On 10/06/10 23:21, Alan Bell wrote: John Matthews wrote: Ok, I dont know what else I can tell you. What I have told is all that happens. I click on the recover link under the kernal when in the grub, and it freezes after about 20 secs. Nothing else happens, no script comes up, no other

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......

2010-06-10 Thread Jim Price
John Matthews wrote: Ok, I dont know what else I can tell you. Post the contents of /boot/grub/grub.cfg The difference between the default boot line (which works, yes?) and the recovery line should only be the options at the end of the lines which specify the linux kernel and options. If you

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......

2010-06-10 Thread jakewc2
On 10 June 2010 22:39, Jim Price d1vers...@hotmail.com wrote: John Matthews wrote: Ok, I dont know what else I can tell you. Post the contents of /boot/grub/grub.cfg The difference between the default boot line (which works, yes?) and the recovery line should only be the options at the

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......

2010-06-10 Thread jakewc2
ah, interesting, this is new information. A fresh install of Lucid does not show grub at all unless you hold shift, although thinking about it it might have to for dual boot setups. At the top of the grub screen it should list the version number of grub. Does it start with 1.98? Alan.