Yeah, I agree with you and Martin: the Internet routes around failures, and this
is clearly a failure.
I was wondering if some operators wanted to share how they are going to try to
resolve the order from the court.
Yesterday my ISP at home was simply blocking the source IP address. DNS was
How long before TTB starts to use fast flux ...
Sent from my iPad
On 1 May 2012, at 09:00, Adrian Farrel adr...@olddog.co.uk wrote:
Yeah, I agree with you and Martin: the Internet routes around failures, and
this
is clearly a failure.
I was wondering if some operators wanted to share how
On 01/05/2012 09:00, Adrian Farrel wrote:
Yeah, I agree with you and Martin: the Internet routes around failures, and this
is clearly a failure.
I was wondering if some operators wanted to share how they are going to try to
resolve the order from the court.
The order from the original court
IAABP (I Am A Bottom Poster - is this internet standard not applied on UKNOF?
Assuming you are not trying to start a flamewar (hence why I am bottom
posting), Modern clients organising mails by discussion/thread and hiding the
part of the text already present in the previous mails in the
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 9:37 AM, Thomas Mangin
thomas.man...@exa-networks.co.uk wrote:
IAABP (I Am A Bottom Poster - is this internet standard not applied on UKNOF?
Assuming you are not trying to start a flamewar (hence why I am bottom
posting), Modern clients organising mails by
On Tue, 1 May 2012 10:36:36 +0100
Thomas Mangin thomas.man...@exa-networks.co.uk wrote:
NB: the list was too quiet, I am pleased to see that it is still so easy to
get people all fired up :D
welcome to the internet.
d.
head above parapet
At 10:03 01/05/2012, William Anderson wrote:
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 9:37 AM, Thomas Mangin
thomas.man...@exa-networks.co.uk wrote:
IAABP (I Am A Bottom Poster - is this internet standard not
applied on UKNOF?
Assuming you are not trying to start a flamewar (hence why I
On Tue, 2012-05-01 at 09:13 +0100, Steve Dyer wrote:
The order from the original court said that including the site in
Cleanfeed was sufficient to have actioned it. Cleanfeed, the Judge
knew, was trivial to circumvent, so he made the order in the knowledge
that it wouldn't actually work.
On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 02:07:43PM +0100, Graeme Fowler wrote:
On Tue, 2012-05-01 at 09:13 +0100, Steve Dyer wrote:
The order from the original court said that including the site in
Cleanfeed was sufficient to have actioned it. Cleanfeed, the Judge
knew, was trivial to circumvent, so he
Whilst I personally believe that these solutions don't work as a standalone
option I think we also need to remember that many if not all of the people
downloading stuff via TPB are actually breaking the law.
Regards,
Neil.
--
Neil J. McRae.
n...@domino.org
That is harsh
Having had a look at pirate bay, the majority of material available is illegal
- if it wasn't we wouldn't be blocking it..
Martin Macleod-Brown | Infrastructure Engineer – Networks Security
Direct line +44 (0)20 7000 7772 | Email mmacl...@london.edu
www.london.edu
Don't forget,
Adrian,
You make a very valid point also (my point was more about the free speech
angle). I think there are many ways to frame this issue, are we aiding and
abetting for example? In my view, what is clear is that as an industry we are
not winning on the we can't do anything about this response
point 1 exists in bottom posting also! I agree on HTML/Rich emails. Sadly
nothing drives my email as well as Outlook does nor does anything manage
calendar so well (and yes I've tried them all).
--
Neil J. McRae.
n...@domino.org
From:
On 1 May 2012, at 16:24, Neil J. McRae wrote:
Whilst I personally believe that these solutions don't work as a standalone
option I think we also need to remember that many if not all of the people
downloading stuff via TPB are actually breaking the law.
Are you actually sure about that?
That looks like a question out of GMAT LOL!
--
Neil J. McRae.
n...@domino.org
From: akum...@gmail.com [akum...@gmail.com] on behalf of Anand Kumria
[akum...@acm.org]
Sent: 01 May 2012 16:39
To: Neil J. McRae
Cc: uknof@lists.uknof.org.uk
Subject: Re:
Whilst we can't expect a TV advert (...'you wouldn't steal a car'...) to hope
to educate users on the between tort and criminal law
Would you reasonably expect those adverts to educate anyone ?
You wouldn't hit your gran in the face with an ice cream and a flake
Chris
Knowledge
The mugging one is a good example of where a lot of people would consider it
foolish to get involved and almost certainly advise against it.
People making roads are not encouraging speeding or car theft.
Telephone companies do not have to filter what people say.
Post office do not filter what
Yes of course I know Malcolm. Welcome to the we don't give a stuff world
where individual interest is all that matters! Be careful what you wish for.
--
Neil J. McRae.
n...@domino.org
From: Malcolm Hutty [malc...@linx.net]
Sent: 01 May 2012 17:13
To: Neil
Will,
here is a clue that applies to TPB from your own link.
Distributing a large enough number of copies to have a noticeable effect on the
business of the copyright owner
--
Neil J. McRae.
n...@domino.org
From: Will Hargrave [w...@harg.net]
Sent: 01
On 1 May 2012 21:51, Adrian Kennard uk...@e.gg wrote:
Oh, I know. But are we enough of a voice to cause sanity to prevail?
No; as Thomas pointed out... Lobbies are stopped by other lobbies. Time
to lobby
Aled
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 11:17 PM, Paul Cairney
paul.cair...@eu.equinix.com wrote:
(Please excuse the From: line, the folowing diartibe is mostly my personal
oppinion)
If only there was some sort of legal entity who could lobby on behalf of the
views that consensous of this list has concluded
On 01/05/2012 23:35, William Anderson wrote:
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 11:17 PM, Paul Cairney
paul.cair...@eu.equinix.com wrote:
(Please excuse the From: line, the folowing diartibe is mostly my personal
oppinion)
If only there was some sort of legal entity who could lobby on behalf of the
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