Quoting quota considered harmful

2001-03-31 Thread Edward Cherlin
Namah Sarasvatiyah: The worst consequences often attend the desire to help. This is especially true when the guardians of software decide that they know better than the people they are supposed to be helping. If the current quoting policy is not changed, I shall be forced to resort to padding

Re: The Unicode Standard, Version 3.1

2001-03-31 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: "James Kass" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > if there is a need for a keyboard method, it should be possible > to create one. Most assuredly... but I am hesitant to consider the 16-bit world to be "gone" in practical terms until such methods are not only possible, but also widespread as well. We are

Word and Version 3.1 characters

2001-03-31 Thread David J. Perry
I, too, have been playing with the new Plane 1 characters of Unicode 3.1. I can use WordPad, per the instructions people have given here, and things work as advertised. When I try it in Word 2000 under Win2000, however, I find the following: a. If I use the numeric keypad to enter the two sur

Re: The Unicode Standard, Version 3.1

2001-03-31 Thread James Kass
Elliotte Rusty Harold wrote regarding Plane One display: > > Which word processor? Which HTML browser? > -- WordPad. Really. (The version that ships with W2K.) For the browser, the Internet Explorer that came with W2K. Perhaps there is an upgrade for Internet Explorer that would do the t

Re: The Unicode Standard, Version 3.1

2001-03-31 Thread James Kass
Michael (michka) Kaplan wrote: > > > As far as keyboards/IME, if anyone has a notion of what a Deseret > > or Gothic keyboard should look like (and a need for one), please > > let me know. > > Um, the need for one is a way to actually input data? How else would a > typical user be able to type

Re: The Unicode Standard, Version 3.1

2001-03-31 Thread Elliotte Rusty Harold
At 11:52 PM -0800 3/30/01, James Kass wrote: >Included are Old Italic, Deseret, and Gothic, as well as a few other >items extrapolated from the Roadmap and preliminary proposals. >Constructive comments are welcome. (I know that the math >letter variants are incomplete.) It works in W2K with the

Re: The Unicode Standard, Version 3.1

2001-03-31 Thread Peter_Constable
Michael: On 03/31/2001 09:55:58 AM "Michael \(michka\) Kaplan" wrote: >From: "James Kass" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> As far as keyboards/IME, if anyone has a notion of what a Deseret >> or Gothic keyboard should look like (and a need for one), please >> let me know. > >Um, the need for one is a

Re: The Unicode Standard, Version 3.1

2001-03-31 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: "James Kass" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > As far as keyboards/IME, if anyone has a notion of what a Deseret > or Gothic keyboard should look like (and a need for one), please > let me know. Um, the need for one is a way to actually input data? How else would a typical user be able to type such da

Re: The Unicode Standard, Version 3.1

2001-03-31 Thread James Kass
Michael (michka) Kaplan wrote: ... > It is not > obsolete in pratical terms until there is widespread support in the way of > fonts, keyboards, IMEs, and the other important items that help bring > characters to the user. > Here is a freeware Plane One font for testing: http://home.att.net/~ja