RE: Fwd: Re: (SC2WG2.609) New contribution N2705

2004-02-19 Thread Michael Everson
At 16:44 -0800 2004-02-18, Peter Constable wrote: Well, *don't* ignore the fact that I was not talking about parentheses and hyphens; I was talking about tilde and right arrow (U+2192). No one is proposing these. Sorry, that doesn't cut it, IMO. You know all too well that what people need to

Re: (SC2WG2.609) New contribution N2705

2004-02-19 Thread Philippe Verdy
I have the same feeling, notably because the exposed documents are meant to be fonted to have its notations readable and consistent. And most probably because it creates new irrelevant character distinctions within rich-text formats (SGML, HTML, ...) to manage these characters as well as other

Re: inconsistent behaviour in windows

2004-02-19 Thread Jon Hanna
Is there any work around ( microsoft guys) , where all the characters retain their hex values ( \x00 to \xff ) when passed to exe irrespective of the system locale settings ? Off-the-top-of-my-head ideas: 1. Use CreateProcessW (only an option if you can rule out 95/98/ME support) 2. Pass

RE: Devanagari Letter Short A

2004-02-19 Thread Aparna A. Kulkarni
The character U+0904 (DEVANAGARI LETTER SHORT A) is not a part of ISCII 91. Neither was it encoded in any of the earlier versions of ISCII. Hence according to the ISCII standard this character simply cannot be formed. Aparna A. Kulkarni -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Arabic Characters for Kurdish are missing

2004-02-19 Thread Ernst Tremel
Hello, I would like to suggest to add some - until now still - missing characters for Arabic Kurdish: 1. Thereare no FINAL forms for U-0692 (REH WITH SMALL V) and U-0995 (REH WITH SMALL V BELOW) 2. Thereare no FINAL, INITIAL and MEDIAL forms for U-06B5 (LAM WITH SMALL V) 3. Thereare no

Re: Arabic Characters for Kurdish are missing

2004-02-19 Thread John Cowan
Ernst Tremel scripsit: Hello, I would like to suggest to add some - until now still - missing characters for Arabic Kurdish: The explicitly isolated, initial, medial, and final forms of Arabic-script letters are purely for backward compatibility, and should not be used outside that scope.

Re: Devanagari Letter Short A

2004-02-19 Thread Philippe Verdy
From: Aparna A. Kulkarni [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Unicode List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 8:23 AM Subject: RE: Devanagari Letter Short A The character U+0904 (DEVANAGARI LETTER SHORT A) is not a part of ISCII 91. Neither was it encoded in any of the

Re: Arabic Characters for Kurdish are missing

2004-02-19 Thread Bob_Hallissy
See the FAQ at http://www.unicode.org/faq/middleeast.html -- Arabic presentation forms should be avoided. What FAQ page doesn't say, but perhaps should, is that modern computer programs and fonts work together to automatically select the correct contextual forms and ligatures when you code your

RE: Fwd: Re: (SC2WG2.609) New contribution N2705

2004-02-19 Thread Peter Constable
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Everson Sorry, that doesn't cut it, IMO. You know all too well that what people need to encode is open to lots of interpretations. When someone comes along and says we need to encode Devanagari ksha or we need to encode

RE: inconsistent behaviour in windows

2004-02-19 Thread Peter Constable
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Deepak Chand Rathore I am creating new tasks using CreateProcessA(), and i want all the arguments to be passed unchanged. Similar behavior is observed with other hex values (\x81,...) which are reserved by windows in code

Re: Arabic Characters for Kurdish are missing

2004-02-19 Thread Michael Everson
Presentation forms of Arabic letters are no longer being added to the Unicode Standard, and use of the ones which were encoded is strongly discouraged. -- Michael Everson * * Everson Typography * * http://www.evertype.com

Re: Fwd: Re: (SC2WG2.609) New contribution N2705

2004-02-19 Thread C J Fynn
Peter Constable [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When someone comes along and says we need to encode Devanagari ksha or we need to encode ch, you, Michael Everson, will respond saying, No, we do not need to encode those things, and you make that decision by applying some principle. Since Devanagari

Codes for Individual Chinese Brushstrokes

2004-02-19 Thread tim
Hi All: Are there codes available for each standard individual Chinese brushstroke? I have been unable to determine whether there are codes available for individual Chinese brushstrokes. I think that some individual brushstrokes have codes in the published Unicode scheme, but not

Re: Codes for Individual Chinese Brushstrokes

2004-02-19 Thread John Jenkins
As a rule, no. Strokes are fragments of characters, not characters in their own right. There are some Chinese strokes encoded for various reasons, but there is no intention of ever providing an exhaustive catalog of strokes. On Feb 19, 2004, at 12:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are

Re: Codes for Individual Chinese Brushstrokes

2004-02-19 Thread Michael Everson
At 14:14 -0800 2004-02-19, John Jenkins wrote: As a rule, no. Strokes are fragments of characters, not characters in their own right. There are some Chinese strokes encoded for various reasons, but there is no intention of ever providing an exhaustive catalog of strokes. But of the 64

Re: Codes for Individual Chinese Brushstrokes

2004-02-19 Thread Kenneth Whistler
Michael Everson asked: At 14:14 -0800 2004-02-19, John Jenkins wrote: As a rule, no. Strokes are fragments of characters, not characters in their own right. There are some Chinese strokes encoded for various reasons, but there is no intention of ever providing an exhaustive catalog of

Arabic Presentation Forms A vs. B

2004-02-19 Thread ryan77
Greetings, I have developed an application which attempts to store Arabic in Presentation Form in a data file. I realize this is not the proper way to store Arabic, however, the application which accesses the data operates on hardware with very tight memory/speed constraints and it was decided