Re: LATIN SMALL LIGATURE CT

2004-03-01 Thread Adam Twardoch
- Original Message - From: Asmus Freytag [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ligatures in use in Fracktur are entirely missing. For example, ch is a mandatory ligature there. It doesn't matter whether a ligature is mandatory or not. Ligatures should not be encoded _at all_, and these encoded in the

Re: Tajik alphabet code

2004-03-01 Thread Peter Kirk
On 01/03/2004 00:18, Asomiddin Atoev wrote: Dear Sir/Madam, I am emailing on behalf of the Tajikistani state working group on localizing software for Tajik language. Could you please kindly guide us to be in right direction. What shall be the procedure of standartization of alphabet symbols?

Re: Tajik alphabet code

2004-03-01 Thread Alexander Savenkov
Hello Aso, 2004-03-01T11:18:34+03:00 Asomiddin Atoev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am emailing on behalf of the Tajikistani state working group on localizing software for Tajik language. Could you please kindly guide us to be in right direction. What shall be the procedure of standartization

Extended Arabic Letters

2004-03-01 Thread Idris Kamal
Dear all, Is there any where (on the Unicode site or elsewhere) I can view the proposed 26 extended Arabic letters for West African languages, Jawi and Moroccan Arabic that is mentioned in the pipeline table http://www.unicode.org/alloc/Pipeline.html? Thank you and best wishes, Idris

What's in a wchar_t string on unix?

2004-03-01 Thread Rick Cameron
Title: What's in a wchar_t string on unix? Hi, all This may be an FAQ, but I couldn't find the answer on unicode.org. It seems that most flavours of unix define wchar_t to be 4 bytes. If the locale is set to be Unicode, what's in a wchar_t string? Is it UTF-32, or UTF-16 with the code

RE: Extended Arabic Letters

2004-03-01 Thread Jony Rosenne
I suggest that any confidential and contain privileged or copyright information better not be posted to a public list. I hope the rules of this list preclude such provisions. If not, they should. Jony -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

Re: Tajik alphabet code

2004-03-01 Thread Philippe Verdy
On 01/03/2004 00:18, Asomiddin Atoev wrote: I am emailing on behalf of the Tajikistani state working group on localizing software for Tajik language. Could you please kindly guide us to be in right direction. What shall be the procedure of standartization of alphabet symbols? Tajik alphabet

Re: What's in a wchar_t string on unix?

2004-03-01 Thread Frank Yung-Fong Tang
I Rick Cameron wrote on 3/1/2004, 2:13 PM: Hi, all This may be an FAQ, but I couldn't find the answer on unicode.org. The reason is there are "NO answer" to the question you ask. It seems that most flavours of unix define wchar_t to be 4 bytes. Depend on which UNIX

Re: What's in a wchar_t string on unix?

2004-03-01 Thread Philippe Verdy
What's in a wchar_t string on unix?What you'll put or find in wchar_t is application dependant. But there's only a guarantee to find a single code unit (not necessarily a codepoint) for characters encoded in the source and compiled with the appropriate source charset. But this charset is not

Re: Tajik alphabet code

2004-03-01 Thread Philippe Verdy
From: Peter Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] I understand that there have been previous attempts to define a new or extended Cyrillic 8-but character set supporting Central Asian languages, but that such proposals have been rejected. I hardly think that Aso would have turned to the Unicode list if he

Re: Tajik alphabet code

2004-03-01 Thread Peter Kirk
On 01/03/2004 13:19, Philippe Verdy wrote: From: Peter Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] I understand that there have been previous attempts to define a new or extended Cyrillic 8-but character set supporting Central Asian languages, but that such proposals have been rejected. I hardly think that Aso

RE: What's in a wchar_t string on unix?

2004-03-01 Thread Rick Cameron
OK, I guess I need to be more precise in my question. For each of the popular unices (Solaris, HP-UX, AIX, and - if possible - linux), can anyone answer the following question: Assuming that the locale is set to Unicode, what is in a wchar_t string? Is it UTF-32 or pseudo-UTF-16 (i.e.

Re: Tajik alphabet code

2004-03-01 Thread Peter Kirk
On 01/03/2004 12:30, Philippe Verdy wrote: On 01/03/2004 00:18, Asomiddin Atoev wrote: I am emailing on behalf of the Tajikistani state working group on localizing software for Tajik language. Could you please kindly guide us to be in right direction. What shall be the procedure of

Re: Tajik alphabet code

2004-03-01 Thread Peter Kirk
On 01/03/2004 14:24, Philippe Verdy wrote: From: Peter Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aha, here's my way to get the characters I want into Unicode although they have been rejected! I find some near-bankrupt island state and persuade (with a little financial lubrication) its government to set up an

Re: Tajik alphabet code

2004-03-01 Thread Philippe Verdy
From: Peter Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] The cost of software is unlikely to be a serious issue. I haven't been to Tajikistan, but in many countries in that region almost any software is available for the cost of copying a CD. As a result Windows XP and Office XP (probably now 2003) are in general

Re: Tajik alphabet code

2004-03-01 Thread Peter Kirk
On 01/03/2004 14:57, Philippe Verdy wrote: From: Peter Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] The cost of software is unlikely to be a serious issue. I haven't been to Tajikistan, but in many countries in that region almost any software is available for the cost of copying a CD. As a result Windows XP and

Re: Tajik alphabet code

2004-03-01 Thread John Jenkins
On Mar 1, 2004, at 3:57 PM, Philippe Verdy wrote: There are LOTS of legacy software (not necessarily standard OS or office software, but also private softwares used in administrations, banks, and various private organizations, etc...) which are needed today and will need to continue to work

Re: Tajik alphabet code

2004-03-01 Thread Philippe Verdy
From: Peter Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows 2000/XP and Office need no adaptation, just fonts and keyboards. Well, the menus do need localisation, and obviously that is a significant issue (although I guess most Tajiks know or can easily learn the Russian for File, View, Help etc). Issues of

Re: Tajik alphabet code

2004-03-01 Thread Chris Jacobs
There are LOTS of legacy software (not necessarily standard OS or office software, but also private softwares used in administrations, banks, and various private organizations, etc...) which are needed today and will need to continue to work for many years as there's not a lot money to adapt

RE: Tajik alphabet code

2004-03-01 Thread Peter Constable
There sure is a lot of blather going back and forth base on *guesses* at what was being asked. And the more the thread continues, I think the further it is probably moving away from helping the person that asked the original question. PK and PV, before responding to one another any further,

RE: Tajik alphabet code

2004-03-01 Thread Peter Constable
Aso: Could you please clarify exactly what you are looking for help with. - Are you looking for information on standardizing orthographic usage within a community? (I suspect not.) - Are you wanting to find out whether a particular orthography for Tajik is supported in Unicode and, if not,

Re: LATIN SMALL LIGATURE CT

2004-03-01 Thread Kevin Brown
Adam Twardoch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It doesn't matter whether a ligature is mandatory or not. Ligatures should not be encoded _at all_, and these encoded in the Alphabetic Presentation Forms are an uncomfortable compromise, and exception. I completely accept that the vast majority of

Re: LATIN SMALL LIGATURE CT

2004-03-01 Thread D. Starner
But can someone explain to me why a ligatures such as ct which CANNOT be accurately decomposed into individual characters (at least, it can't if it's designed PROPERLY) shouldn't be encoded in its own right? Non-decomposability is the special feature of all the ligatures currently