RE: Common Locale Data Repository Project

2004-04-22 Thread Peter Constable
> due to the strong perception of OpenI18N.org as > opensource/Linux advocates, even though CLDR project is not > specifically bound to Linux. It is hard to look at OpenI18N.org's spec and not get the impression that all of that group's projects are not bound to some flavour of Unix. The "Scope" c

Re: Common Locale Data Repository Project

2004-04-22 Thread Kenneth Whistler
> However, a bigger question emerges with the release of the draft version > of UTS 35. What happened to TR 33 and TR 34? Indeed, what are they? > Something must be at least tentatively planned for those numbers, but > there isn't anything available publicly at least. Working drafts of some mat

Re: [OT] Even viruses are now i18n!

2004-04-22 Thread Christopher Vance
On Fri, Apr 23, 2004 at 02:08:50AM +0200, Philippe Verdy wrote: The Tokelau language also exists with its own language code [tkl] in ISO 639-2/B or 639-2/T, but no 2-letters code in ISO 639-1. Tokelau [TK] is a group of islands in the Pacific, and a dependency of New Zealand [NZ]. Tokelau is 3 cora

Re: Common Locale Data Repository Project

2004-04-22 Thread Hideki Hiura - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> From: "Philippe Verdy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Is that a contribution of the Unicode Consortium to the OpenI18n.org > project (former li18nux.org, maintained with most help from the > FSF), or a decision to make the OpenI18n.org project be more open by > pushing it to a more visible standard? More

Re: [OT] Even viruses are now i18n!

2004-04-22 Thread Philippe Verdy
From: "Antoine Leca" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Thursday, April 22, 2004 7:14 PM > Peter Kirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> va escriure: > > > The virus writers have presumably confused > > .tc and .tk > > .TR for Turkey. .TK (Tokelau) is not more sensible Or is that [tk] for Turkmen (the language code in ISO

Re: Common Locale Data Repository Project

2004-04-22 Thread Ernest Cline
From: Philippe Verdy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > From: "Rick McGowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > The Unicode® Consortium announced today that it will be hosting the > > Common Locale Data Repository project, providing key building blocks > > for software to support the world's languages. > > Is that a

Re: [OT] Even viruses are now i18n!

2004-04-22 Thread Antoine Leca
On Thursday, April 22, 2004 7:14 PM Peter Kirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> va escriure: > The virus writers have presumably confused > .tc and .tk .TR for Turkey. .TK (Tokelau) is not more sensible Antoine

Re: Unicode 4.0 and ISO10646-2003

2004-04-22 Thread Frank Yung-Fong Tang
Kenneth Whistler wrote on 4/22/2004, 3:26 PM: > Frank asked: > > > I expect there are no difference from Unicode 4.0, am I right? > > Correct. Please see Appendix C of Unicode 4.0, p. 1348 and p. 1350, > which already explicitly makes this statement. > > --Ken I don't see "ISO10646-2003

Re: GB18030 and super font

2004-04-22 Thread Eric Muller
Raymond Mercier wrote: Mark Shoulson writes >their Super Font is bundled with Microsoft Office XP, and > even Microsoft's prices haven't gotten that high! >From Microsoft, http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/DrIntl/columns/015/default.mspx : "A font that contains Simp

Re: Common Locale Data Repository Project

2004-04-22 Thread Philippe Verdy
From: "Rick McGowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > The Unicode® Consortium announced today that it will be hosting the Common > Locale Data Repository project, providing key building blocks for software > to support the world's languages. > > For more information and links to the project pages, please see:

Re: New Ukrainian currency symbol

2004-04-22 Thread Kenneth Whistler
John Fiscella said: > The double line (shorter than a strikeout) could also be encoded as a > combining or enclosing mark in the 20D Block. Then all new currency symbols > dreamed up of this form could be text-represented > by a composite character. ^^^ combining cha

Common Locale Data Repository Project

2004-04-22 Thread Rick McGowan
The Unicode® Consortium announced today that it will be hosting the Common Locale Data Repository project, providing key building blocks for software to support the world's languages. For more information and links to the project pages, please see: http://www.unicode.org/press/press_r

Re: Unicode 4.0 and ISO10646-2003

2004-04-22 Thread Asmus Freytag
At 10:44 AM 4/22/2004, Frank Yung-Fong Tang wrote: I saw the announcment of publishing " ISO/IEC 10646: 2003, Information technology --     Universal Multiple-Octet Coded Character Set (UCS)" From http://anubis.dkuug.dk/jtc1/sc2/open/02n3729.htm I expect there are no difference from Un

Re: Unicode 4.0 and ISO10646-2003

2004-04-22 Thread Kenneth Whistler
Frank asked: > I expect there are no difference from Unicode 4.0, am I right? Correct. Please see Appendix C of Unicode 4.0, p. 1348 and p. 1350, which already explicitly makes this statement. --Ken P.S. Frank, please don't use HTML email for inquiries like this to the Unicode list -- particula

Re: GB18030 and super font

2004-04-22 Thread Frank Yung-Fong Tang
In case you want to test your GB18030 font, you can use Netscape 7 (or lateset Mozilla) and then visit my GB18030 test pages at http://people.netscape.com/ftang/testscript/gb18030/gb18030.cgi?page=10 It should be page to page compatable to the paper copy of GB18030-2000 standard. I also create

Unicode 4.0 and ISO10646-2003

2004-04-22 Thread Frank Yung-Fong Tang
I saw the announcment of publishing " ISO/IEC 10646: 2003, Information technology --     Universal Multiple-Octet Coded Character Set (UCS)" >From http://anubis.dkuug.dk/jtc1/sc2/open/02n3729.htm I expect there are no difference from Unicode 4.0, am I right?

Re: GB18030 and super font

2004-04-22 Thread Peter Kirk
On 22/04/2004 10:04, Raymond Mercier wrote: Eric, Amazin' Amazon!! Now why didn't I think of that ? In fact the uk Amazon.co.uk say it is discontinued, so I would have to get it from Amazon in the US. It is not the first time that the two Amazon's fail to connect. Many thanks for the tip, Raymo

Re: GB18030 and super font

2004-04-22 Thread Frank Yung-Fong Tang
Raymond Mercier wrote on 4/22/2004, 7:35 AM: > I enquired about the 'super font' created by a Beijing foundry, > http://font.founder.com.cn/english/web/index.htm, and am fairly > astonished > at the prices, as you see from the attached. The cost of produce these fonts are much higher than p

Re: Unihan.txt and the four dictionary sorting algorithm

2004-04-22 Thread Rick McGowan
> I've never managed to get either Notepad or Word to open Unihan.txt Just use EMACS. Works fine. Rick

RE: [OT] Even viruses are now i18n!

2004-04-22 Thread Marco Cimarosti
Peter Kirk wrote: > >mutlu etmek okumak belgili tanimlik belge. > ... > > This is Turkish, of a sort. The virus writers have presumably > confused .tc and .tk, as this Turkish is the first body listed > and .tc is the first domain listed. Yes, and the translation was probably done translating wo

Re: [OT] Even viruses are now i18n!

2004-04-22 Thread Peter Kirk
On 22/04/2004 07:40, Marco Cimarosti wrote: It seems that even the virus industry is getting global! "F-Secure Virus Descriptions : NetSky.X [...] Netsky.X sends messages in several different languages: ... possibly the language of some small island called Turks and Caicos, ... ... mutlu etmek ok

Re: GB18030 and super font

2004-04-22 Thread Raymond Mercier
ï Eric, Amazin' Amazon!!  Now why didn't I think of that ? In fact the uk Amazon.co.uk say it is discontinued, so I would have to get it from Amazon in the US. It is not the first time that the two Amazon's fail to connect. Many thanks for the tip, Raymond - Original Message - Fr

RE: unicode site problem

2004-04-22 Thread Magda Danish \(Unicode\)
Frank, It's fixed now. Magda Danish Sr. Administrative Director The Unicode Consortium From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Frank Yung-Fong Tang Sent: Thu 4/22/2004 9:27 AM To: Unicode Mailing List Subject: unicode site problem any one know who can fix http:

Re: GB18030 and super font

2004-04-22 Thread Eric Muller
Raymond Mercier wrote: But that link to proofing tools leads nowhere. Maybe it's not be so easy to get the CHS version. Includes ~140 fonts, mostly for CJK, Arabic, Hebrew but other scripts as well. Includes "Simsun (Founder Extended)" aka "åä-ææèååçé", with 65,531 glyph

unicode site problem

2004-04-22 Thread Frank Yung-Fong Tang
any one know who can fix http://www.unicode.org/reports/index.html ? all the links are broken

Re: GB18030 and super font

2004-04-22 Thread Philippe Verdy
From: "Mark E. Shoulson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Raymond Mercier wrote: > > >I am intrigued by GB18030 encoding. There is a table of equivalences in > >http://oss.software.ibm.com/cvs/icu/~checkout~/charset/data/xml/gb-18030-200 > >0.xml > >No doubt Unihan will at some stage include these 2 & 4 byte

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[OT] Even viruses are now i18n!

2004-04-22 Thread Marco Cimarosti
It seems that even the virus industry is getting global! "F-Secure Virus Descriptions : NetSky.X [...] Netsky.X sends messages in several different languages: English, Swedish, Finnish, Polish, Norwegian, Portuguese, Italian, French, German and possibly the language of some small island called Tur

Re: GB18030 and super font

2004-04-22 Thread Ernest Cline
Possibly they were quoting the price for one to be able to bundle their font with software that you would sell. Judging by the website, I don't think that their intent is to sell directly to individual users. In that context, the price doesn't seem unreasonable at all. When you consider that hig

GB18030 and super font

2004-04-22 Thread Raymond Mercier
ï Mark Shoulson writes>their Super Font is bundled with Microsoft Office XP, and> even Microsoft's prices haven't gotten that high!From Microsoft,http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/DrIntl/columns/015/default.mspx :"A font that contains Simplified Chinese glyphs from both CJK Extension Aand B s

Re: GB18030 and super font

2004-04-22 Thread Mark E. Shoulson
Raymond Mercier wrote: I am intrigued by GB18030 encoding. There is a table of equivalences in http://oss.software.ibm.com/cvs/icu/~checkout~/charset/data/xml/gb-18030-200 0.xml No doubt Unihan will at some stage include these 2 & 4 byte values. I enquired about the 'super font' created by a Beiji

GB18030 and super font

2004-04-22 Thread Raymond Mercier
I am intrigued by GB18030 encoding. There is a table of equivalences in http://oss.software.ibm.com/cvs/icu/~checkout~/charset/data/xml/gb-18030-200 0.xml No doubt Unihan will at some stage include these 2 & 4 byte values. I enquired about the 'super font' created by a Beijing foundry, http://font

Re: Suggestion: use of symbolic links in the FTP site

2004-04-22 Thread Philippe Verdy
From: "Theo Veenker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > It would not be difficult to write script which automatically downloads > the required files (using wget) for a given unicode version if there was > such a file as suggested by Philipppe. Exactly. The Unicode site is not done for that... Automated downloa

Re: Suggestion: use of symbolic links in the FTP site

2004-04-22 Thread Theo Veenker
Tom Emerson wrote: Philippe Verdy writes: Symbolic links is a bad idea on FTP. They are resolved by the client... Really? Depends on your server: proftpd handles them fine. I think it would also give the false feeling that a new 4.01 file exist when in fact it's the same as 4.00. No, the fil