They were separate. Annex A of ISCII 1991 shows Bengali (BNG) and
Assamese (ASM) in
separate columns. *Every* character in those two columns is completely
identical, except the
entries (no surprise) in the r row and the v row. And in Annex D,
the listing of Inscript keyboards,
there is one
Dear Mr. Delex,
Please, please spare us from further details in support of your crusade. You
should finally accept the fact that the official block name cannot be changed,
the rest is effectively OT.
Thank you!
Erkki I. Kolehmainen
-Alkuperäinen viesti-
Lähettäjä:
On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 03:31:14 +0200
Philippe Verdy verd...@wanadoo.fr wrote:
In other words, the UTC policy about the stability of Bidi classes
should be minimally relaxed, by rewording into something like:
« The bidi class property value of any assigned code point is
IMMUTABLE (and will
Dear Gábor,
thank you for your letter regarding ISO/IEC 10646/PDAM 1.2 - Amendment 1.
You asked me to arrange for a German negative vote on that document,
based on your concerns regarding the script called Old Hungarian in
that document.
Please understand the position of the German NB, as
From: unicode-bou...@unicode.org [mailto:unicode-bou...@unicode.org] On Behalf
Of delex r
I hope you understand my sense at that time and don’t go technically).
I am not going into the technical matters of coding characters . My point ,
I hope many of you understood, was regarding naming
I may give some excuses to him, if he is not aware of the technical
justification of why names are immutables. But what he really wants is
to avoid being exposed to these Bengali names. This is not a matter
of tehcnical encoding, but more a question of localisation (for
example when using a
2011/9/14 Richard Wordingham richard.wording...@ntlworld.com:
On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 03:31:14 +0200
Philippe Verdy verd...@wanadoo.fr wrote:
In other words, the UTC policy about the stability of Bidi classes
should be minimally relaxed, by rewording into something like:
« The bidi class
On 09/14/2011 12:25 PM, delex r wrote:
I think now naming the script as “ Bengali” that too by stealing two
unique letters from the Assamese alphabet list and coloring them
with Bengali hue is part of that notorious linguistic invasion.
Look -- Unicode is an international standard. English
On 14 September 2011 09:41, Karl Pentzlin karl-pentz...@acssoft.de wrote:
Dear Gábor,
thank you for your letter regarding ISO/IEC 10646/PDAM 1.2 - Amendment 1.
You asked me to arrange for a German negative vote on that document,
I received the same letter, via BSI, this morning, and although
Den 2011-09-14 03:31, skrev Philippe Verdy verd...@wanadoo.fr:
2011/9/13 Kent Karlsson kent.karlsso...@telia.com:
...
for the new one, and to the paragraph bidi level for the three old ones). (I
know, this would be a form of option 1 in the PRI.)
You can turn it as you want it is still a
On 09/14/2011 02:55 AM, delex r wrote:
... as always, absolutely correct and unimpeachable points.
(has anyone even said you were wrong about your claims regarding the
history and usage of the letters? I might have missed it. but you're
spending all this effort trying to convince people, and
2011/9/14 Kent Karlsson kent.karlsso...@telia.com:
Because that stability guarantee says The Bidi_Class property values will
not be further subdivided. I'm not too keen on the word subdivided here,
but it (here) means there will be *no additions* to the set of values for
the Bidi_class
Den 2011-09-14 19:05, skrev Philippe Verdy verd...@wanadoo.fr:
2011/9/14 Kent Karlsson kent.karlsso...@telia.com:
Because that stability guarantee says The Bidi_Class property values will
not be further subdivided. I'm not too keen on the word subdivided here,
...
That's absolutely not the
I can give another example where there are ambiguities on how to
resolve the direction of characters other then CS.
Just look at this page on Wikisource (this is a paragraph in French
containing Hebrew words in a French enumeration, look at where the
comma separations are placed). Note that I'm
2011/9/14 Kent Karlsson kent.karlsso...@telia.com:
And how will you define what is an implicit LDM ? For example 1.2
Did you actually READ my submission re. the PRI? Seems like not. There is a
suggestion there (which requires a bit of character contextual processing).
It is also possible to
Shriramana Sharma wrote :
Look -- Unicode is an international standard. English is the
international language of science and technology, whether you like it or
not. And as Michael Everson as pointed out, the script is more commonly
known in the English language as the Bengali script
…..
And
On 14 Sep 2011, at 18:58, delex r wrote:
## I think s/he has given and finished her/his his point about why the name
of the script is chosen as “Bengali” ….. The English knew “Calcutta” as
such why have you changed it to “Kolkata” ? Well irrelevant from the
point of view of
However unworthy it is, I hereby have to point out the fact that Mr.
Hosszú has only become the member of the Hungarian National Body in
the recent years, following the work started on the encoding of Old
Hungarian in the UCS. Obviously never really delegated by anybody but
asking the university
Michael Everson wrote:
I bet that you call my language Angrezi or something similar in your language,
rather than Ingliś. Are you planning to get all of the millions of speakers
of your language to call English by its proper name?
At this point, I think I have to make a plea: Sarasvati, spare
Hello everyone.
It is apparent that this discussion of Assamese/Bengali is not going anywhere
and should now be closed.
As has been pointed out, and clarified several times, block names and names
of characters in the standard will not be changed. There is nothing further to
discuss in this
On 9/14/2011 11:14 AM, Michael Everson wrote:
At this point, I think I have to make a plea: Sarasvati, spare us.
+1
Den 2011-09-14 19:56, skrev Philippe Verdy verd...@wanadoo.fr:
2011/9/14 Kent Karlsson kent.karlsso...@telia.com:
And how will you define what is an implicit LDM ? For example 1.2
Did you actually READ my submission re. the PRI? Seems like not. There is a
suggestion there (which requires a
Hello Delex,
On 2011/09/14 15:55, delex r wrote:
The “Dark age of Assamese language” ran for about 37 years in this region when
it was tried to kill a the language by vested interests with the help of
British Political powers imposing Bengali as medium of instruction in school
and
2011/9/15 Kent Karlsson kent.karlsso...@telia.com:
Back to the original issue of this thread: All the workarounds w.r.t. LDM
depend on the directionality of neighbouring characters, not directly on
the embedding level direction.
If so, you can mark the slash in 12/31 with LDM, it will not
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