ichi ni san yon
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Here is an example I wrote.
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Title: Han clock test
Han clock (mostly) by
"Don't you ever call me 'baby' again!" she yelled.
^ ^^
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These are three separate abstract characters, but I
use one glyph for all of them. What are the three codepoints
I use for them in Unicode? (Unicode encodes abstract
characters, I hear.
The attachment is in UTF-8.
Sorry if there are mozibake.
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Two questions:
Question 1
I have a clock at
http://www.geocities.co.jp/AnimeComic-Pen/9973/index.html
(works best in MSIE)
that would have been MUCH easier to make if only I
had decimal Unicodepoints handy. I mostly worked from
your online standard to make it (I was at school, without
my Unicode book).
Why don't you mak
21 = 3 * 7
so could you "flatten" it to 7-bit ASCII?
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Greater minds than mine it doth perplex
Innocent mail banned for containing "sex"
I hope they know where to draw the line
I'd hate to see censorship of figures "69".
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Sarasvati <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just got a bounce message from a machine in the
>
> deli
To the author of the Code 2000 font:
1) The top stroke of a capital J does not require serifs.
It is a serif.
2) The digit 4 could use some work. A digital-clock
4 would be a great improvement.
3) Japanese is fixed-width, I think.
To the rest of you:
Here is a kana sample from the font. Let
Too many Han.
How do we keep Han from eating up all the codepoints?
I mean, if we said no Han we'd get a lot of irate Chinese,
but still
If your browser (word processor, paint program, etc.)
takes U+2FF0 thru U+2FFB and actually tries to *DRAW*
the character, is that OK by Unicode rules?
Tr
If they don't put it in this minute, there is something
WRONG. It is a CURRENCY symbol, for Pete's sake! I
mean, DOLLAR SIGN is not LATIN LETTER S WITH STROKE
And it is *UNI*code
Oh. You didn't tell us whether it goes to the left
or to the right of the digits, did you?
And it is considera
±Ì¶ÍAQUoCgÅ·B
S0n0eo00ÿÿÐ0¤0È0g0Y00
Oh cool! I was expecting 39!
Why still only 26?
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Michael Everson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 11:58 -0800 2001-03-23, Richard Cook wrote:
> >Another web page, for your collective amusement:
> >
> >http://lin
I taught myself to read a bit of SJIS mojibake, partly
from studying the scrambled output of my clock program
with fullwidth digits. (glitch plus O = 0. Glitch plus
P = 1, etc., I think) Anyone else here can read mojibake?
What is the English word for mojibake?
Isn't Unicode mojibake three mojibak
Anybody know of a Unicode font repository?
Is there a Unicode version of Fraktur? I can't help
but wonder how the hiragana would look. Some, like
"ya" would doubtless adapt very prettily, but like
"nu"?
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䆁䆁䆁侎䆁沎䆁�䆁媘䆁떎䆁ꪔ䆁ôÜ䆁抍䆁뎉䆁뢕䆁骒䆁䆁좌䆁岏䆁岏䆁岏䆁掁䆁岏좌䆁岏䆁岏䆁掁䆁좌岏䆁좌岏좌䆁厕䆁掁
It is in SJIS because I don't know how to post this
in Unicode.
| ||\ __/__ | | _/_ | || /
| _|_ ,--, /
Make maru (the round one) a kanji, though. It IS a
kanji.
| ||\ __/__ | | _/_ | || /
| _|_ ,--, / \ /_| -+- / --- | /
|V T_)| | |\ | ||/ _
\_/ T / \ / __/ | /--- \_/ L/ \
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Who needs those mungers? Let's nuke them straight to
HELL. WITH a nuke. Or at least a couple hundred hand
grenades.
| ||\ __/__ | | _/_ | || /
| _|_ ,--, / \ /_| -+- / --- | /
|V T_)| | |\ | ||/ _
\_/ T / \ / __/
I put some japanese text up on the web
http://11digitboy.stormloader.com
and i think i did it right. Is the &#n; format
correct where n is a unicode code in decimal? do
i set netscape to utf-8 to see it? what about msie?
please excuse the 1 handed typing.
| ||\ __/__ |
| ||\ __/__ | | _/_ | || /
| _|_ ,--, / \ /_| -+- / --- | /
|V T_)| | |\ | ||/ _
\_/ T / \ / __/ | /--- \_/ L/ \
Alain LaBonté <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Actual author unknown (anonymous)...
>
>
What is the Japanese collation sequence? Oh yeah, there
are a bunch of Roman letters thrown in. And digits
too.
Yeah, anime CDs.
Do I just katakanize the roman letters? And is "Sanzenin"
"sa-n-se-n-i-n" or "3-0-0-0-i-n"? And how do I do long
vowel mark?
| ||\ __/__ | | _/_
| ||\ __/__ | | _/_ | || /
| _|_ ,--, / \ /_| -+- / --- | /
|V T_)| | |\ | ||/ _
\_/ T / \ / __/ | /--- \_/ L/ \
Deborah Goldsmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> on 11/22/00 3:00 PM, Kenneth Whistler
Okay. Get out your copy of the lyrics to the Ranma
1/2 Complete Vocal Collection Vol. 1. Now look at
the lyrics to Ranbada Ranma (that's Track 12) and
tell me that the long vowel mark is not used with
hiragana.
| ||\ __/__ | | _/_ | ||
/
| _|_ ,--, / \ /_| -+-
If the difference between "A" and "a" is called "case",
what is the difference between HIRAGANA LETTER YA
and KATAKANA LETTER YA called? (I think either of
those letters would do to describe this with the
new code pages. The description would be enhanced
by liberal application of HIRAGANA-KATAKANA
Is there a program that will count characters in
a text file?
| ||\ __/__ / \ _/_ | ||
/
| _|_ ,--, / \ /_| -+- / ,-. | /
|V T_)| | |\ | ||/
_
\_/ + / `' ' __/ \ /`-' \_/ L/
\
_
This plan is for Plane 0 values only, though odds
are it could be extended to other planes.
Instead of base 16, use base 32. That means the digits
are 0, 1, 2, 3, ... 9, A, B, ... V. So each is 5
bits. 3 together is 15 bits. Have 2 (not 1) escape
characters and kabam! your 16 bits, in only 4 byte
About those numbers: (^_^)
Sometimes I like to write this for a pinball score:
34`8614`7040
Once I saw a Japanese use format like this: 42,9496,7296
but that is probably non-standard.
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Are there languages you might need to encode where
colour is important? (such as, if a certain shape
in red is one letter, but in blue it is a different
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It seems to me that if not for that, how could anyone
make a Chinese font? Who is going to sit down and
draw a *myriad* or more characters? Since elements
recur, this reduces the amount of labour required
greatly.
..
..
[OT] Are there any character-encoding schemes that
have CENTESIMAL DI
I think one of the entrance pages of www.grownupgirl.com
(a porn site) has something like that. But the site
won't load for me well now, so It loaded yesterday.
It has the "Ha ha, let's display the words 'last
updated' followed by JavaScript to show the date
and see how many people we fool" tr
They're images (I should have known not to trust
anybody who uses that date trick!)
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I have seen U+3007 classified as a Hanzi. Why is
it not considered a Hanzi in Unicode? Because it
is the only Hanzi that uses that stroke??
If it is not a Hanzi, what, then, is it?
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LETTER ME and not HIRAGANA SYLLABLE ME? It might
be explained by how they are used, for instance,
Japanese palindromes, I hear, work kana by kana.
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Are there languages with systematic color-naming
schemes, like computer hex codes for colours?
This reminds me of a certain all-vowel Japanese word,
and I think you know which word I mean.
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So what notation do you use? 0x8000 is just another
way to say 32768.
By the way, how was the conference?
Um... give him a REALLY high plane, like in
oh, I don't know how high.
You can't keep giving people their own planes, because
then I'll want one, and then you'll rip my skin away
from m
Let's see: Could it, for instance, show the date
in the Hebrew calendar and the time in hours and
halakim?
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"Magda Danish (Unicode)
You have a good point: does nu-alpha-tau-alpha-sigma-alpha
spell "Natasa" or "Natasha"? The Greek letters given
are obviously an attempt to write "Natasha" in Greek,
but they romanize to "Natasa".
And a, b, c, d, e, f, g, h, ... HATES a, i, u, e,
o, ka, ki, ku, ...
Maybe I should just capit
How do you sort text with some in Roman and some
in non-Roman alphabets? Currently, I'm just romanizing
everything but I don't know if that is that good.
Should I just kanize Japanese?
I would love a system that just goes by characters,
and I would much prefer it if the Han digits collated
in nume
You don't want to move characters because then you
could change the meaning of a sentence that way.
I don't want to price something at 1000 cows when
I mean 1000 yen. Or worse, 100 yen.
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> Sandro Karumidze wrote:
> > The issue is that in Unicode there is a sequence
> of Georgian
> > carac
Where are the Georgian digits? I want a set of Georgian
digits so I can use them as counter digits.
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Doug Ewell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does anyone know of a commonly used or commonly
> accepted collective
> term for multi-ch
What's ` for? To space what? I pretty much just use
it for writing big numbers, like 42`9496`7296.
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I don't need the word "ill" to look like Roman numeral
three. OKAY, ANYBODY KNOW OF SOME GOOD, BIG FONTS
WHERE NO TWO CHARACTERS LOOK ALIKE? This would especially
be good for capital pee and capital rho. These fonts
would ideally have this property in a "normal", small
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That also goes for ichi (the kanji corresponding
to our digit 1), and the kanji hyphen. I don't want
those to look alike. You don't want them to either,
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Yeah, how WOULD you make a serifed, rounded E that
doesn't look silly and doesn't look like a C with
an extra line? Well, maybe you can, I dunno. Anyone
who can do that, I'd like to see it.
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Maybe this is how to settle the Euro glyph thing:
Instead of talking about it, write the Euro glyph
on a piece of paper with a pen, scan it in, and post
it. If we STILL can't agree on what it looks like,
very politely request that one of the people in CHARGE
of this Euro thing please write the Eur
I started this thing about DIGIT SEVEN WITH STROKE
to poke fun at the number of times glyphs appear
to be duplicated with slight variations. But now
it appears to have taken a turn to something else:
1) Sometimes short-ranging figures and long-ranging
figures (I can never remember which is which;
This reminds me of "Are DIGIT SEVEN and DIGIT SEVEN
WITH STROKE distinct characters?" Yeah, our decimal
number system has at least thirteen digits:
DIGIT ZERO
DIGIT ZERO WITH STROKE
DIGIT ONE
DIGIT TWO
DIGIT THREE
CLOSED DIGIT FOUR
OPEN DIGIT FOUR
DIGIT FIVE
DIGIT SIX
DIGIT SEVEN
DIGIT SEVEN WITH
How do I make U+5973, for instance? I want to make
it so I can see it on the screen. I want to do that
without cheating by e.g. using Paint.
Magda, if you're in programming, make it (the keyboard
utility) yourself. Only you're not, right?
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What do you think of the "Any Damn Browser" method
of site design? (i.e. "This page best viewed with
any damn browser")
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On page 876, the character U+6B8B is listed as being
127 strokes beyond the radical. I'd say it's more
like 6 strokes beyond the radical. I do not suppose
that characters of 128+ strokes are indeed possible,
due to the fact that the paper would get quite soggy
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Look at page 92 in the book. Then look at this:
http://www.cyberethiopia.com/ethiopic/counter.htm
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In English, it's ['junIkowd]. Think "unicycle" or
"unilateral" or "universal". And the "code" part
is the root word "code".
As for "unique", well, why doesn't "one" rhyme with
"stone", "bone", and "alone"?
I wonder what our fine lady friend (she knows exactly
who she is) has to say about this?
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This says reiten, not reiji. Why?! Shouldn't it say
REIJI??!!! Or am I going to look like a total fool
when I find out that it SHOULD say REITEN?
If the thing said REIJI, it and its friends could
be used to shorten encoding of times in text.
Why are there no reifun, ippun, nifun, ... gojuukyuufun
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you NEED kana
for Japanese. How can you even write "desu" ("is")
without it??
Am I right in supposing that Japanese people hate
that their kana take up 3 bytes per character, while
the Roman letters I am using now take up only 1 byte
apiece? If I were Japanese
Okay, 0x10FFDE different characters. But what of
planes 15 and 16?
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Asmus Freytag <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
What about F? I was told that there are 0x10
possible characters?
Oh, by the way, if 12 is a dozen and 144 is a gross,
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Yes, let us call it the MDIP. What would that be
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Kenneth Whistler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> J
So do we want to be converting Han numerals to European
ones? Or do we want to SHOW as , but have it access the same place as
?
(Is it called ? What DO you call
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Do the Han characters have names, such as or or ?
So would my tattoo be ?
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If it is what I think it is, I don't want it in English.
How could it tell "aids" from "AIDS", for instance?
Or "joy" from "Joy"(name)?
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NOBODY TOLD ME YOU COULD HAVE THOSE LETTERS IN A
HOST NAME!!! So you could have .com for a lady named
Michiko, or something?
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> I would not say that override should be impossibl
If he was to use those IPA characters, how would
he type them?
Also, how would Tanaka-san write his full name in
Japanese? He has an English first name and Japanese
middle and last names. I hear the Japanese have no
middle names, so my guess is he is an immigrant and
adopted an English first name
Where can I find charts for plane 1 and plane 2 of Unicode? Please give
me the URL or else tell me the name of the link(s) to follow. I can only
find Plane 0 on Unicode's site.
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The REAL problem with this may be that the people discussing this issue
are not native speakers of Japanese. Truth be told, neither am I. All
I know is, furigana are a BIG help when you don't know many kanji.
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John Hudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 04:04 AM 7/1/00 -0800, you wrote:
> >Furigana codes would simply mark certain text as furigana, meaning
> to
> >the text-display device, "These characters are not to be displaye
Furigana codes would simply mark certain text as furigana, meaning to
the text-display device, "These characters are not to be displayed on
the main line of text, but rather above it and in smaller type". There
ought to be and codes, or the equivalent,
in HTML; at least that is my opinion. The t
Are there furigana codes? If not, there darn well need to be.
Like: BEGIN WHAT THE FURIGANA IS FOR, then START FURIGANA, then END FURIGANA.
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