Re: LATIN CAPITAL LETTER SHARP S officially recognized

2017-07-04 Thread Gerrit Ansmann via Unicode
On 04.07.2017 12:19, Otto Stolz via Unicode wrote: I was referring to contemporary writing systems. Indeed, several east European languages (including, e. g. Latvian) were written in blackletter, with German sound-letter correspondence, before they developped their own writing systems. Sure.

Re: LATIN CAPITAL LETTER SHARP S officially recognized

2017-07-03 Thread Gerrit Ansmann via Unicode
On 03.07.2017 19:01, Otto Stolz via Unicode wrote: Since German ist the only language using “ß” (if I am not mistaken), […] Some old Sorbian (blackletter) orthographies also employed the ß. It was also used at the beginning of words where it was capitalised to Sſ at the beginning of sentences

Re: Proposal for German capital letter "ß"

2015-12-10 Thread Gerrit Ansmann
On Thu, 10 Dec 2015 11:19:36 +0100, Hans Meiser wrote: After all, the "ß" is just a ligature of "ss" (or, to be precise: a ligature of "sz", originating from old German fonts - see hyperlink below), so I suggest the rendered outcome of the capital "ß" to be just the same: A ligature of two ca

Re: Proposal for German capital letter "ß"

2015-12-09 Thread Gerrit Ansmann
On Wed, 09 Dec 2015 20:55:24 +0100, Hans Meiser wrote: Yet, AFAIK, the current glyph would currently be considered an error. See it like this: The point of spelling rules is to easy reading. However, the use of SS for capital ß is rather obstrusive, as it is not exactly frequent in everyday

Re: Proposal for German capital letter "ß"

2015-12-09 Thread Gerrit Ansmann
My proposal is to introduce a capital letter equivalent of "ß" that's resembling two capital "S" letters: "SS". Actually, the capital ß is already included in Unicode (ẞ) because it was and is used as a separate letter (not looking like SS), though only rarely. It is now realised as a proper

Re: Small (minuscule)

2015-06-08 Thread Gerrit Ansmann
On Mon, 08 Jun 2015 21:59:50 +0200, Gilbert Lozano wrote: Can someone help me find the code for the small (minuscule) p with macron above? U+0070: p U+0304: combining macron Put those two characters after each other and you get: p̄.

Re: the usage of LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH STROKE

2015-05-31 Thread Gerrit Ansmann
On Sun, 31 May 2015 16:32:36 +0200, Janusz S. Bień wrote: I'm curious what was the motivation for adding the character to Unicode. According to the Code Chart for Latin Extended B (http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U0180.pdf), it’s used for Sencoten. It was also used in some old Norwegian t

Re: Quasiquotation marks

2014-06-10 Thread Gerrit Ansmann
(with no satisfying conclusion in my opinion): http://german.stackexchange.com/q/10055/2594 Gerrit Ansmann ___ Unicode mailing list Unicode@unicode.org http://unicode.org/mailman/listinfo/unicode

Re: Unicode organization is still anti-Serbian and anti-Macedonian

2014-02-17 Thread Gerrit Ansmann
On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 00:50:45 +0100, Richard Wordingham wrote: I don't like the idea, but one possibility would be to define Serbian glyph styles by adding variation selectors. Variation selectors are already 'defined' for the decimal digits U+0030 to U+0039. It would, however, mess up str

Re: Unicode organization is still anti-Serbian and anti-Macedonian

2014-02-15 Thread Gerrit Ansmann
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 11:37:19 +0100, Крушевљанин wrote: There is still problem with letters бгдпт in italic, and б in regular mode. OpenType support is still very weak (Firefox, LibreOffice on Linux, Adobe's software and that's it, practically). It's also disappointing that Microsoft is still

Re: Why blackletter letters?

2013-09-12 Thread Gerrit Ansmann
On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 06:50:23 +0200, Charlie Ruland ☘ wrote: One final remark: Thinking about it I have the impression that the blackletter vs. antiqua distinction once made in German very much resembles that made between Hiragana and Katakana in Japanese. In both cases the underlying systems

Re: Why blackletter letters?

2013-09-11 Thread Gerrit Ansmann
did not seem to stop people from using a long s in Antiqua from time to time. There are a lot of post-1901 Antiqua display fonts that contain a long s as well as examples from normal text. This very rarely happens even today: http://www.trueffelschweinberlin.com Regards, Gerrit Ansmann

Re: Why blackletter letters?

2013-09-11 Thread Gerrit Ansmann
fault. You might need the occasional ZWNJ to avoid an automatic ligature, but in that respect there is no difference to Antiqua fonts with ligatures. Regards, Gerrit Ansmann

Re: Why blackletter letters?

2013-09-10 Thread Gerrit Ansmann
raktur and antiqua. Gerrit Ansmann

Re: Why blackletter letters?

2013-09-10 Thread Gerrit Ansmann
On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 22:55:43 +0200, Markus Scherer wrote: For use in IPA etc., there are in fact small caps letters: http://unicode.org/cldr/utility/list-unicodeset.jsp?a=%5B%3Aname%3D%2FSMALL+CAPITAL%2F%3A%5D&g= For small caps as a style, you would use markup. I am fully aware of all this.

Re: Capitalization in German

2013-02-19 Thread Gerrit Ansmann
s a lot of redundancy in language for a reason. Gerrit Ansmann

Re: help with an unknown character

2013-01-11 Thread Gerrit Ansmann
On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 21:51:04 +0100, Elbrecht wrote: that's just my first guess - no blackslash available the printer replaced with what was available in his set… I would be really surprised, if this was the glyph closest to a backslash available. I am no expert on classical typesetting, but

Re: help with an unknown character

2013-01-10 Thread Gerrit Ansmann
On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 00:17:09 +0100, Michael Everson wrote: Randomly reversed long s? Hmm, this would not fit the sloped serif. Rather a flipped, dotless j. Wildly guessing, I would say, that whoever made the cover wanted it to reflect “Widerspruch” (contradiction) or the tertium non datur

Special characters of old Sorbian orthographys

2012-09-16 Thread Gerrit Ansmann
, that these have not already been proposed? (I have searched http://www.unicode.org/alloc/Pipeline.html and http://std.dkuug.dk/jtc1/sc2/wg2/docs/n4031.pdf.) Regards, Gerrit Ansmann<>