RE: Is the Unicode Standard "The foundation for all modern software and communications around the world"?

2019-11-21 Thread Peter Constable via Unicode
I suspect if you look at the JPEG and MPEG standards you'll find there is a normative reference to Unicode or ISO/IEC 10646. Same for standards specifying C, ECMAScript and other languages in which modern software is written. So, arguably the statement isn't much of a stretch at all. Peter Fr

RE: New Public Review on QID emoji

2019-11-09 Thread Peter Constable via Unicode
> Yet if QID emoji are implemented by Unicode Inc. without also being > implemented by ISO/IEC 10646 then that could lead to future problems, Neither Unicode Inc. or ISO/IEC 10646 would _implement_ QID emoji. Unicode would provide a specification for QID emoji that software vendors could implem

RE: The native name of Tai Viet script and language(s)

2019-08-26 Thread Peter Constable via Unicode
" As the proposal for TaiViet script to the Unicode is still on the progress, we use the Private Use Area for TaiViet characters (U+F000..U+F07E). " Er... The script has been in Unicode for about 10 years, since Unicode 5.2. The block description in 16.8 of Unicode 12 provides useful info:

RE: MODIFIER LETTER SMALL GREEK PHI in Calibri is wrong.

2019-04-17 Thread Peter Constable via Unicode
Thanks for reporting. The team responsible for the font has recorded a bug entry for this issue and will be working on a fix. From: Unicode On Behalf Of Oren Watson via Unicode Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2019 2:05 PM To: unicode Unicode Discussion Subject: MODIFIER LETTER SMALL GREEK PHI in Cal

RE: Private Use areas

2018-08-27 Thread Peter Constable via Unicode
This was meant to go to the list. From: Peter Constable Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 12:33 PM To: wjgo_10...@btinternet.com; jameskass...@gmail.com; richard.wording...@ntlworld.com; m...@kli.org; beckie...@gmail.com; verd...@wanadoo.fr Subject: RE: Private Use areas That sounds like a non-conf

RE: Private Use areas (was: Re: Thoughts on working with the Emoji Subcommittee (was ...))

2018-08-27 Thread Peter Constable via Unicode
Layout engines that support CJK vertical layout do not rely on the 'vert' feature to rotate glyphs for CJK ideographs, but rather rotate the glyph 90° and switch to using vertical glyph metrics. The 'vert' feature is used to substitute vertical alternate glyphs as needed, such as for punctuation

RE: Unicode 11 Georgian uppercase vs. fonts

2018-07-27 Thread Peter Constable via Unicode
Just an observation on these issues: When the Mtavruli proposal was first presented to UTC, several UTC members voiced strong reservation because of the kind of issues mentioned for case mapping, and in particular on database indexing and querying. Several months later, various UTC members parti

RE: Unicode 11 Georgian uppercase vs. fonts

2018-07-27 Thread Peter Constable via Unicode
Alex: Quoting you from two separate messages: > Many Georgian scientists working with script and language are not fans of > "uppercase" font styles. >With all my respect, N2608R2 is right and N4712 is wrong about case in >Georgian. Can you comment, then, on N4776, in which the Georgian Minist

RE: Unicode 11 Georgian uppercase vs. fonts

2018-07-20 Thread Peter Constable via Unicode
IMO, the correct answer is 2, except that “all common fonts” is more sweeping that necessary: it’s sufficient to have fonts used for fallback in platforms and browsers, and the related fallback logic, to get updated. Of course, that takes some time, and it’s not even two months since Unicode 11

RE: The Unicode Standard and ISO

2018-06-10 Thread Peter Constable via Unicode
> ... For another part it [sync with ISO/IEC 15897] failed because the > Consortium refused to cooperate, despite of repeated proposals for a merger of both instances. First, ISO/IEC 15897 is built on a data-format specification, ISO/IEC TR 14652, that never achieved the support needed to become

RE: The Unicode Standard and ISO

2018-05-17 Thread Peter Constable via Unicode
ISO character encoding standards are primarily focused on identifying a repertoire of character elements and their code point assignments in some encoding form. ISO developed other, legacy character-encoding standards in the past, but has not done so for over 20 years. All of those legacy standa

Thai phintuu + sara u(u)

2018-04-02 Thread Peter Constable via Unicode
Does anyone know of any attested cases in Thai script of a phintuu appearing together with either sara u or sara uu, _and_ with the phintuu positioned below the sara u(u)? Thanks Peter

RE: Unicode Digest, Vol 50, Issue 20

2018-02-27 Thread Peter Constable via Unicode
The OpenType spec doesn’t not in any way suggest that the bits be used that way. It’s impossible to assert that there are no applications out there that do that, but I wouldn’t expect there to be many widely-used apps that do that today. On the other hand, something that the bits might affect a

RE: metric for block coverage

2018-02-27 Thread Peter Constable via Unicode
You have clarified what exactly the usage is; you've only asked what it means to cover a script. James Kass mentioned a font's OS/2 table. That is obsolete: as Khaled pointed out, there has never been a clear definition of "supported" and practice has been inconsistent. Moreover, the available

RE: Plane-2-only string

2017-11-13 Thread Peter Constable via Unicode
As mentioned in my initial mail, the fonts support the Basic Latin block from the BMP. Peter -Original Message- From: Unicode [mailto:unicode-boun...@unicode.org] On Behalf Of James Kass via Unicode Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 2:54 PM To: Unicode list Subject: Re: Plane-2-only stri

RE: Plane-2-only string

2017-11-13 Thread Peter Constable via Unicode
I discussed this with one of my Chinese co-workers, and we came up with the following: “𠀀𠀁𠀂𠀃𠀄 𦬣𦬤𦬥𦬦𦬧 𦩒𦩓𦩔𦩕𦩖 𨣫𨣬𨣭𨣮𨣯” Factors in the choice of characters were: - different radicals - for a given radical, have a sequence of consecutive characters so people get the idea it's not a sentence but just a

RE: Plane-2-only string

2017-11-13 Thread Peter Constable via Unicode
ing out of them. > On Nov 13, 2017, at 11:20 AM, Peter Constable via Unicode > wrote: > > I’m wondering if anyone could come up with a string of 15 to 40 characters > _using only plane 2 characters_ that wouldn’t be gibberish? > > We are considering adding sample-text strin

RE: Plane-2-only string

2017-11-13 Thread Peter Constable via Unicode
tring Many of characters in the CJK Compatibility Ideographs Supplement block are quite common Chinese characters, or variants thereof. You could try and build Chinese sentences with these characters. On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 at 20:20 GMT+01:00 Peter Constable via Unicode wrote: > I’m wondering i

RE: Plane-2-only string

2017-11-13 Thread Peter Constable via Unicode
-detected as supporting BMP CJK by some applications, when it doesn't really support that range. On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 10:20 AM, Peter Constable via Unicode mailto:unicode@unicode.org>> wrote: > I’m wondering if anyone could come up with a string of 15 to 40 characters > _using only pl

RE: Plane-2-only string

2017-11-13 Thread Peter Constable via Unicode
be auto-detected as supporting BMP CJK by some applications, when it doesn't really support that range. On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 10:20 AM, Peter Constable via Unicode wrote: > I’m wondering if anyone could come up with a string of 15 to 40 characters > _using only plane 2 characters_ that wo

Plane-2-only string

2017-11-13 Thread Peter Constable via Unicode
I’m wondering if anyone could come up with a string of 15 to 40 characters _using only plane 2 characters_ that wouldn’t be gibberish? We are considering adding sample-text strings in some of our fonts. (In OpenType, the ‘name’ table can take sample-text strings using name ID 19.) One particula

RE: Unicode education in Schools

2017-08-24 Thread Peter Constable via Unicode
I thought Javascript had a UCS-2 understanding of Unicode strings. Has it managed to progress beyond that? Peter From: Unicode [mailto:unicode-boun...@unicode.org] On Behalf Of David Starner via Unicode Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 5:18 PM To: Unicode Mailing List Subject: Fwd: Unicode ed

RE: Unicode 10 Cover Art

2017-08-22 Thread Peter Constable via Unicode
http://blog.unicode.org/2017/08/unicode-consortium-announces-cover.html -Original Message- From: Unicode [mailto:unicode-boun...@unicode.org] On Behalf Of Andre Schappo via Unicode Sent: Monday, August 21, 2017 9:30 AM To: Unicode Subject: Unicode 10 Cover Art Unicode 10.0 Cover Design

RE: Are Emoji ZWJ sequences characters?

2017-05-15 Thread Peter Constable via Unicode
Emoji sequences are not _encoded_, per se, in either Unicode or ISO/IEC 10646. The act of "encoding" in either of these coding standards is to assign an encoded representation in the encoding method of the standards for a given entity. In this case, that means to assign a code point. Specifyin

RE: PETSCII mapping?

2017-04-10 Thread Peter Constable via Unicode
From: Unicode [mailto:unicode-boun...@unicode.org] On Behalf Of Rebecca T Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2017 2:26 PM > As time goes on, “not in widespread use” will become a flimsier and flimsier > argument against inclusion — why isn’t there a larger community of PETSCII > enthusaists? Partially beca

RE: Coloured Punctuation and Annotation

2017-04-10 Thread Peter Constable via Unicode
William: Michael's scenario doesn't require a special palette index value such as you propose since (i) he could implement a font with alternate palettes to provide different colouring options of his choosing, and (ii) an app can always expose customization options to allow the user to customiz

RE: Coloured Punctuation and Annotation

2017-04-10 Thread Peter Constable via Unicode
The color palette entries (CPAL) used for COLR or SVG can potentially be customized by an application — whether for user customization or to fit some context (such as selection). Peter -Original Message- From: Asmus Freytag (c) [mailto:asm...@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017

RE: Coloured Punctuation and Annotation

2017-04-10 Thread Peter Constable via Unicode
Michael, your two-tone effect can easily be added into your first font using COLR and CPAL tables, so that the one font can support a monochrome rendering that uses glyphs in which the swirls are fused with the letters, and can also support a poly-chrome rendering in which those glyphs are decom