Language kits for Mac...

2003-07-11 Thread Rick McGowan
Ran across a place that has a number of language kits for Mac OS X, including Burmese, Cherokee, Inuktitut, Kannada, Malayalam, Telugu, and Tibetan. I haven't seen any blurbs about them anywhere... http://www.xenotypetech.com Rick

Re: RE: UTF-8 to UTF-16LE

2003-07-08 Thread Rick McGowan
> > Can anyone tell me how to convert UTF-8 to UTF-16LE . > > Funnily enough that's just what I'm coding right now. > The encodings are described in Chapter 3 or Unicode, UTF-8 is also described > RFC 2279 and UTF-16 in RFC 2781 >

Calling Barry Caplan...

2003-07-07 Thread Rick McGowan
Sorry for the intrusion, but... If anyone knows an off-line way to get a hold of Barry Caplan, could they please give him a call or send him a letter, or knock on his door? He has been doing some standards archaeology, and has sent messages to several people in the past few weeks, but his i

Re: Documents needed for proposal

2003-07-03 Thread Rick McGowan
Andrew C. West asked: > Where can the average proposal author browse "section II, Character > Categories" (needed for item B.3), "clause 14, ISO/IEC 10646-1: 2000" > (needed for B.4) That is section 2.2 of the WG2 Principles and Procedures document. It is available on-line. Go here: http://std

Notice of Unicode "Pipeline" update

2003-06-30 Thread Rick McGowan
The list of characters approved by the UTC for eventual standardization after Unicode 4.0, the "pipeline", has been updated with all of the results from the most recent Unicode Technical Committee meeting. See: http://www.unicode.org/alloc/Pipeline.html Please note that while these charac

Unicode Public Review Issues update

2003-06-27 Thread Rick McGowan
org/consortium/distlist.html Regards, Rick McGowan Unicode, Inc.

Re: About combining classes

2003-06-27 Thread Rick McGowan
Philippe wrote: > When I just look at the history of combining classes, they did not exist in > the first Unicode standard, and they still don't exist in ISO10646 as well. > This was a technology developed by IBM and offered for free to the community Excuse me Philippe, but you are wrong. Please

Re: Biblical Hebrew

2003-06-26 Thread Rick McGowan
Ken wrote... > I now like better the suggestions of RLM or WJ for this. I'll have to disagree with Ken. I'm not so sure about either of these. I don't think anyone has, in the past, considered what conforming or non-conforming behavior would be for a RLM or WJ between two combining marks. T

Major Defects in Subject Lines!

2003-06-26 Thread Rick McGowan
Wow... How on earth did the subject line "Major Defect in Combining Classes of Tibetan Vowels" turn into a discussion of Biblical Hebrew? At least, people, if you're going to transmogrify the discussion, please use a subject line such as "Biblical Hebrew" which someone already was wise enou

Re: Major Defect in Combining Classes of Tibetan Vowels

2003-06-25 Thread Rick McGowan
Let me remind you: Talk on this list doesn't mean that the issue is automatically brought up for UTC deliberation. If no documents are formally submitted, nothing will happen. After all the discussion of Tibetan, if anyone has a serious concrete proposal for a specific change to the Unicode

Re: Major Defect in Combining Classes of Tibetan Vowels

2003-06-25 Thread Rick McGowan
Andrew C West wrote... > What I'm suggesting is that although "cui" <0F45, 0F74, 0F72> and "ciu" > <0F45, 0F72, 0F74> should be rendered identically, the logical ordering > of the codepoints representing the vowels may represent lexical differences > that would be lost during the process of normal

Unicode Public Review Issues update

2003-06-24 Thread Rick McGowan
link above to generate UTC consideration. http://www.unicode.org/consortium/distlist.html Regards, Rick McGowan Unicode, Inc.

Re: Revised N2586R

2003-06-24 Thread Rick McGowan
William O wrote... > In that the document proposes U+2693 for FLEUR-DE-LIS it would seem not > unreasonable for fontmakers now to be able to produce fonts having a > FLEUR-DE-LIS glyph at U+2693. Not quite yet. It's not that stable. You should look at the WG2 processes and stages of encoding. D

Re: Revised N2586R

2003-06-24 Thread Rick McGowan
> U+2668 HOT SPRINGS is pleasant, but it's a lot less motivated -- to my mind -- > than the DO NOT LITTER SIGN. Huh? The Hotspring sign appears in running text all the time -- in Japanese travel brochures, for example. I've never seen the do-not-litter sign in running text like that.

Re: Revised N2586R

2003-06-23 Thread Rick McGowan
> And don't forget the 'radura'. The radura is to the food industry as the > 'biohazard' is to medical industry. Yet the comments on proposing the > radura by various UTC members were negative. And it isn't a logo. Interesting. I haven't noticed this symbol in use, and I do buy food. And none o

Re: Rare extinct latin letters

2003-06-04 Thread Rick McGowan
Philippe Verdy wrote... > Sorry, may be I was chosing the wrong diacritic (I was confused by its name, > and I should have verified in the charts). > Isn't U+0316 "COMBINING HORN" (combining class 216) what I wanted to use? If you mean Combining Horn that is U+031B. Combining horn *does* attach

Re: RE: IPA Null Consonant

2003-06-03 Thread Rick McGowan
Jim Allan wrote: > According to > http://www.usefulcontent.org/docs/manuals/REC-MathML2-20010221/overview.html > on this site, the contents are: > << W3C Recommendation 21 February 2001 >> > I would think that anyone can properly make up their own > variation-selector sequences for anything in a

Re: IPA Null Consonant

2003-06-03 Thread Rick McGowan
Stefan Persson asked: > BTW, is it possible > to put a variation selector after another variation selector to > obtaining even more variants? No. The usage of variation selectors is very clearly circumscribed. The standardized variants HTML file contains a brief synopsis: > The tables here exh

Re: "my browser ... puts up a box"

2003-06-01 Thread Rick McGowan
Marion, Just out of curiosity, how did this spill over the Unicode list? The conversation seems to have arrived there in mid-stream. Please either take it back where it came from or provide some context for the Unicadetti. (And as usual this posting reflects only my personal view, not those of

Re: Not snazzy (was: New Unicode Savvy Logo)

2003-05-29 Thread Rick McGowan
Since nobody else is saying anything even semi-official, let me inject... As we move through this discussion of snazziness and visual aspects of the "Unicode Savvy" logo, people should keep a couple of things in mind: 1. UTC has not grappled with what "compliant" means, and unless/until that h

Re: Exciting new software release!

2003-04-03 Thread Rick McGowan
Pim Blokland wrote: Doug Ewell schreef: they also should not use Mathematical Alphanumeric Symbols to create bold, italic, or double-struck effects in plain text. Why not? Because they are not regular alphanumeric characters, they are Math Symbols and they have different properties. They

Re: per-character "stories" in a database

2003-03-17 Thread Rick McGowan
Andrew C. West wrote... > ... it would be extremely helpful to font > designers and others to have free access to information about the glyph > repertoires of certain scripts from the Unicode Web site. "Someone" would have to provide the information, and serve it up in an appropriate way to be

Unicode Public Review Issues update

2003-03-14 Thread Rick McGowan
regarding properties of math digits. Regards, Rick McGowan Unicode, Inc.

Re: New document.

2003-03-14 Thread Rick McGowan
Otto Stolz pointed to: http://www.rz.uni-konstanz.de/Antivirus/tests/li.png http://www.rz.uni-konstanz.de/Antivirus/tests/re.png Yes, some of those are worth proposing, I would say. The in-line textual usage is pretty well given by the two images. But someone needs to investigate the mean

Re: New document.

2003-03-13 Thread Rick McGowan
Do you have any documentation on these? Rick Dominikus Scherkl wrote: Ah - by the way: Has anybody meanwhile contributed a proposal regarding the missing genealogical symbols ?

Re: RE: FAQ entry (was: Looking for information on the UnicodeData file)

2003-03-12 Thread Rick McGowan
> One can get daily news in Latin, too: http://www.yle.fi/fbc/latini/ Complete with a very nice recitation in Latin! http://www.yle.fi/fbc/latini/recitatio.html

Re: Need encoding conversion routines

2003-03-12 Thread Rick McGowan
Marco C. suggested: > Unicode's reference implementation is here, but I don't know how much > up-to-date it is with some tiny changes in UTF-8: > http://www.unicode.org/Public/PROGRAMS/CVTUTF/ As far as I know, it is up to date with all latest UTF-8 changes. It may have a bug or two, but

Re: Ligatures (was: FAQ entry)

2003-03-10 Thread Rick McGowan
> I mean, the dot is an > accent mark, allowing the i to be decomposed into U+0131 and U+0307. Not canonically. Anyway, the dot isn't an accent mark -- it has no effect on pronunciation. [Skip lecture on origins of the dot...] Rick

Re: Looking for information on the UnicodeData file

2003-03-05 Thread Rick McGowan
By the way, the FAQ was updated today, thanks to people on this list. Rick My question is: where can I find formal definitions of the terms used in the Character Name field of the UnicodeData.txt file? Most

Re: guarani sign

2003-02-24 Thread Rick McGowan
> When considering a proposal to include the Guarani currency symbol, > perhaps the Austral of Argentina should also be reviewed. Maybe someone else has already said this, but... Formal proposals are not automatically generated from the archives of this mail list by some magical process. So f

Re: Plane 14 Tag Deprecation Issue

2003-02-14 Thread Rick McGowan
William Overington wrote: > Books in libraries are often classified with a code consisting > of digits and a full stop character. And there are already long-established standards for library catalogs and computerization of same. Ask your local librarian about "MARC" for instance. Ric

Re: Glyph of Pipeline Characters ?

2003-02-12 Thread Rick McGowan
Roozbeh pined: > Actually, I lost the email with the link, and cried a lot [;)] when I > couldn't find the link anywhere. The Yahoo archive was not that good for > searching. I guess someone should volunteer to host an archive of unicode > list in mailbox format somewhere. Have you checked the

Re: Never say never

2003-02-12 Thread Rick McGowan
Marco Cimarosti mentioned... > if it had a canonical composition, I would have posted a > formal error report to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]", rather than > just a lazy comment on the Unicode List. By the way, there is no such address any more. It was discontinued a long time ago. Please report errata u

Re: Tailoring of normalization

2003-02-04 Thread Rick McGowan
(Number one: Please don't CC me on this discusion. I'm on the list and I don't need 2 copies of every mail.) Paul Hoffman wrote: > If I read this issue correctly, this might have a *huge* effect on > the IETF protocols that do normalization. Before I alert the usual > suspects, could someone de

Re: Public Review Issues update

2003-02-03 Thread Rick McGowan
. The closing date for review comments is February 28, 2003 (2003-02-28). Also, the review period for issues 1, 4, 5, and 6 is quickly approaching, and these items are expected to be discussed at the next UTC meeting March 4-7 2003. Regards, Rick McGowan Unicode, Inc.

Re: How is glyph shaping done?

2003-01-31 Thread Rick McGowan
Mete Kural asked: > when a Unicode rendering program is doing > glyph shaping for Arabic (or any other language with > similar properties), would the program first convert > all Unicode Arabic characters in the 06XX domain into > Arabic presentation forms in the FXXX domain, and then > render each

Re: Indic Devanagari Query

2003-01-29 Thread Rick McGowan
Aditya Gokhale wrote: > 1. In Marathi and Sanskrit language two characters glyphs of > 'la' and 'sha' are represented differently as shown in the > image below - Actually, for everyone's information: these allographs for Marathi were recently brought to our attention, and Unicode 4.0 will have

Re: unicode in Mac

2003-01-27 Thread Rick McGowan
Alan Wood wrote: > For a font that covers Greek and Greek Extended, you could try Gentium: > http://www.sil.org/~gaultney/gentium/ Or, if you're just looking for a really nice typeface for body text, Gentium is a good-looking (and award-winning) design. Rick

Re: Greek fractions

2003-01-24 Thread Rick McGowan
There have been many interesting proposals put forth by TLG and discussed at the last few UTC meetings. Many of their characters for betacode will be eventually included in Unicode. Please see the TLG web site for more info - they have pointers to their proposals. You can read the UTC minutes o

Re: Unicode Standards for Indic Scripts

2003-01-08 Thread Rick McGowan
Marco Cimarosti wrote: > I downloaded the first two issues, but I see no mention to any formal > proposal to Unicode. Perhaps it's in the third one. The UTC has already reviewed some of the TDIL newsletter documents in detail. Some recommendations were made; some characters have been suggested

Re: Oh No! Not a new Adobe Glyph List!!!

2003-01-02 Thread Rick McGowan
Eric Muller asked: > What is the relationship between AFII and ISO/IEC 10036 AFII does not exist any more. When it did exist, AFII was the registration authority for ISO/IEC 10036. > GLOCOM soon starts ISO 10036 registration procedures > GLOCOM has been designated as a Registration Authority f

Re: Oh No! Not a new Adobe Glyph List!!!

2003-01-01 Thread Rick McGowan
John Hudson wrote: > ... Adobe was > considering ditching the AFII-based names in the AGL and using uni > names instead for things like Arabic, since having two human-unfriendly > numbering systems, one of them totally obsolete, is really daft. It would be good for everyone to ditch the AFII

greek texts

2002-12-25 Thread Rick McGowan
Someone pointed me at this page of Greek texts (apparently) encoded in Unicode...   http://www.sacred-texts.com/cla/usappho/index.htm Rick

Re: code points in MS word

2002-12-03 Thread Rick McGowan
> Raghupathy, Ramesh asked... > Hi, > > I am new to this list. I like to know if there is method to input > hexadecimal code points into a file on Windows and use MS Word to see the > actual character ? Yes, if you have a recent enough MS Word (2000 or newer). Please see the FAQ page below

Re: Localized names of character ranges

2002-12-02 Thread Rick McGowan
> > Just to be constructive, here's my suggestions for a better translation: > > That's highly commandable, and I was tempted to do the same, but is > there really a point? Just a question: has anyone who is concerned about these considered sending the suggestions to someone at Microsoft, where

Re: ISO 10646, Unicode & The FAQ

2002-11-21 Thread Rick McGowan
Earlier today Andy White asked: > Is the Unicode FAQ officially part of the Unicode standard? Since nobody else has picked this up, I'll venture an answer. The answer is "no". The FAQ pages are not part of the standard. > If not why not? The FAQ pages are interpretations of the standard about

Medieval Unicode Font Initiative

2002-11-18 Thread Rick McGowan
Jarkko wrote: > I happened upon this: http://www.hit.uib.no/mufi/ > Allocating PUA ranges, precomposed characters, ligatures, oh my. > But off-hand I assume they are headed towards the right direction: Actually Deborah Anderson and I are in touch with them. They are in the process of revising

Re: Header Reply-To

2002-11-02 Thread Rick McGowan
Thomas Lotze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 2002-11-02 00:56:14 -0800: > Hi, > > is there a reason mails from the Unicode list don't have a Reply-To > header pointing to [EMAIL PROTECTED]? Sorry to those who have received > private mail from me which was actually meant for the list... > > Cheers, T

Re: Historians- what is origin of i18n, l10n, etc.?

2002-10-10 Thread Rick McGowan
The earliest reference I can find to "i18n" in my old e-mail trail is the following e-mail to the "sun!unicode" mail list by Glenn Wright. This was Oct 5, 1989. By that time, the term was definitely current, as Mr. Hiura suggests. Rick - > From upheisei!attunix!sun!gle

Re: List Information

2002-10-09 Thread Rick McGowan
Lars Marius Garshol asked: > Perhaps it should go onto a web page instead, so that we don't have > to? Wouldn't that be easier for everyone? Good idea... But much of that information already is on a web page: http://www.unicode.org/unicode/consortium/distlist.html Just my opinion, but:

Re: Sporadic Unicode revisited

2002-10-02 Thread Rick McGowan
James Kass wrote: > Cardbox is a database utility whose users may not universally be using > recent Windows or Mac platforms. Thanks for the info. Sounds good. Rick

Re: UTF-8 to UTf-16 conversion

2002-10-02 Thread Rick McGowan
Try: http://www.unicode.org/Public/PROGRAMS/CVTUTF/ Rick Begin forwarded message: > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: 2002-10-02 15:55:56 -0700 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: UTF-8 to UTf-16 conversion > Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Can any one suggest me where can I find a sample

Re: Sporadic Unicode revisited

2002-10-02 Thread Rick McGowan
Ah, sorry, I meant "RFC 1345" abbreviations. Rick > > Martin K wrote: > > > people might be interested > > in the hexadecimal Alt+ numeric-keypad solution that we're > > implementing. > > Both (recent) Windows and Mac platforms already have means of entering any > Unicode character, i

Re: Sporadic Unicode revisited

2002-10-02 Thread Rick McGowan
Martin K wrote: > people might be interested > in the hexadecimal Alt+ numeric-keypad solution that we're > implementing. Both (recent) Windows and Mac platforms already have means of entering any Unicode character, in hexadecimal. Both platforms also have other means, such as the "Character

Re: ISRI SoEuro has just been created!!

2002-09-06 Thread Rick McGowan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Recently, I've created a brand-new 8-bit codepage for Windows and > Mac systems called ISRISEO (International Symbolism Research > Institute—Southern European Hmm, well... I noticed that the sample page "SoEuroTable1.html" is encoded in UTF-8... Doesn't that seem to

Re: Unicode certification

2002-07-25 Thread Rick McGowan
Marion wrote: > (a couple of boys in a backroom could do it) I don't agree. Certainly a couple of engineers might come up with something, and then we'd spend years arguing about the meaning of it all, sucking everyone into a fruitless discussion. James Kass wrote... > On the other hand, if

Re: Dublin Conference: Re: ISO/IEC 10646 versus Unicode

2002-07-24 Thread Rick McGowan
Marion Gunn asked: > Please let me try again to ask about progress made, in that year, > in re Unicode/10646 The minutes of UTC meetings are a matter of public record and recent minutes are on-line. So you can find out what was discussed at UTC meetings back to 1999. Please see: htt

General question

2002-07-15 Thread Rick McGowan
Good morning Unicadets -- This one came in to the Unicode office. If anyone has any hints, please reply to the sender directly. Thanks, Rick > Date/Time:Mon Jul 15 05:48:43 EDT 2002 > Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Report Type: General question > > where can I get the free too

Re: RE: Saying characters out loud (derives from hash, pound,octothorpe?)

2002-07-11 Thread Rick McGowan
Joe wrote: > Date: 7 Aug 90 17:00:43 PDT (Tuesday) Coincidentally, the temperature of my living room was 90 yesterday afternoon. ... proving that this topic always comes up in the summer when it sizzles. Rick

Re: The pointless thread continues

2002-07-05 Thread Rick McGowan
John Hudson wrote: > Actually, this isn't nonsense. A single buggy font is quite capable of > crashing an operating system. Obviously the damage is not permanent, > presuming one is able to get the system started in safe mode and remove the > offending font. The original (by Michael Jansson) o

Re: FW: Inappropriate Proposals FAQ

2002-07-03 Thread Rick McGowan
Suzanne T asked: > Can people from the review committee give me some hard and fast > rules for when something is thrown out? There's only one hard and fast rule that I know: when a majority of UTC members vote to NOT encode something. I think the criteria that UTC representatives use to deter

Re: UniCharacter (Re: Codes for codes for codes for... (RE: Chromatic font research))

2002-06-27 Thread Rick McGowan
Tex wrote: > Lends a whole new meaning to unification! The single character encoding, > UniCharacter!. Just color what you need. Yeah! I like Tex's suggestion. It would eliminate all kinds of problems. We wouldn't have to worry about encoding anything ever again, because users would have al

EXHIBITION ON ARABIC & MIDDLE EASTERN SCRIPTS AND PRINTING

2002-06-22 Thread Rick McGowan
Some people might find this exhibit of interest. I don't have any web address, but I received the following announcement (edited for brevity). Rick > Date: 2002-06-22 07:33:20 -0700 > From: "G.J.Roper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > CC: drglass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > glass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,

Re: Think twice before submitting a proposal

2002-06-21 Thread Rick McGowan
'Leventy Digit Boy wrote: > To discourage frivolous character proposals, the Unicode Consortium > requires you to come up with these (I am not sure if this is all the > requirements, there might be more): The whole process is clarified here: http://www.unicode.org/pending/proposals.html which

Re: Hexadecimal characters.

2002-06-20 Thread Rick McGowan
Hmmm. I was hoping this discussion would go away after the initial round of reasons why it won't happen. > The problem being solved is properly supporting the base sixteen system. It is already properly supported. In fact, Unicode contains far more than a mere 16 entities sufficient for hex

Re: Hexadecimal characters.

2002-06-20 Thread Rick McGowan
Tom Finch wrote: > Hexadecimal is very important and deserves to be in Plane 0. Hmmm, well.. In this case, importance has nothing to do with it, and going off on a comparison of the importance of Devanagari as opposed to Hex will not prevail in this discussion. Hex is already representable

Re: Sync/Seek-robust UTF-7

2002-06-18 Thread Rick McGowan
David Starner wrote: > ... I've been working on my own UTF, privately dubbed > ISO-2022-UTF. It does end up mapping 96-character planes to > G0, but ISO-2022-JP-3 does it, and that's a MIME-legal charset. Yuck. You should be severely reprimanded for even considering to develop yet another one

Re: roundtrip on UTF8 value 1114048 ?

2002-06-07 Thread Rick McGowan
> My code I took from Uniconv.c fails on a roundtrip, converting > 1114048 from UTF32 to UTF8, then back again. Where did you get the code "Uniconv.c"? And what number base is your value in? Hex or decimal? Rick

Re: RE: Bengali script - where is "khanda ta"?

2002-05-21 Thread Rick McGowan
Would anyone care to summarize the problem or question here, and write up a paragraph for the Indic FAQ? http://www.unicode.org/faq/indic.html Does anyone have a picture of it? Rick

Re: Combining half rings?

2002-05-15 Thread Rick McGowan
John, Good questions. I think what you're seeing is probably just a glottal stop, and to-the-right-of would be as good as above. I.e., it's a glyphic variation of iota with half-ring after it... That's just my gut reaction. Can these scholars point to published usage in this manner? Ken W

Re: terminology

2002-05-02 Thread Rick McGowan
I agree with Michael Everson that "sentinal" isn't a good word to use for this. Rick

Re: Towards a classification system for uses of the Private Use Area

2002-04-29 Thread Rick McGowan
Ken wrote... > The days when assembly programmers had to reuse bits and write > self-modifying code are long gone (except, I suppose in chip > microcode) And COBOL. ;-) Rick

L2 / UTC document register updated

2002-04-24 Thread Rick McGowan
The document register has been updated again... http://www.unicode.org/L2/L-curdoc.htm Several new documents: L2/02-150 Status of Mapping between Characters of ISO 5426-2... L2/02-151 Comparison of Characters of ISO 6861 and Those Proposed... L2/02-152 Status of Mapping between Character

Re: Inherent "a"

2002-04-11 Thread Rick McGowan
Avarangal wrote: > Dear Doug Ewell, William Overington, James E. Agenbroad, and Maurice > Bauhahn, > > Thank you all for the reply. > > May I assume u+0b85 as official? Whoa, hang on here! Official WHAT? u+0b85 is definitely in Unicode: U+0B85 TAMIL LETTER A It is _NOT_ an "inherent a"

Re: [OT]Re: The Arrogants and the sillies (RE: Euros and cents)

2002-04-02 Thread Rick McGowan
Peter Constable wrote: > BTW, as I've seen this thread in my inbox, I've been wondering what > percentage of messages from the Unicode list could be filtered out if > everyone consistently included "[OT]" in the subject field for off-topic > posts. Interesting. I sometimes wonder how much less d

Re: http://www.unicode.org/mail-arch/

2002-03-28 Thread Rick McGowan
Marco... The answer is clearly stated on the page. This is a case of simply needing to read and observe. The mail archive HTML page says: To access or search these archives, you must authenticate yourself with a user name and password. (This is a measure to discourage t

Avestan and Old Persian (was: Re: Private Use Agreements ... wandering off-topic)

2002-03-19 Thread Rick McGowan
Ken Whistler wrote: > Preliminary proposals have been around for encoding both Avestan and > Old Persian Cuneiform for a long time: > [...] > The proposals will likely languish until Michael Everson discovers > he has some free time on his hands to pursue consensus with > academic Iranianists and

Re: Synthetic scripts (was: Re: Private Use Agreements and Unappr oved Characters)

2002-03-15 Thread Rick McGowan
Ben Monroe wrote: > While I lived in Japan, I always wrote my last name with $BN6(B stuck > inside of $BLg(B (in the space in the lower middle). Of course, anyone can do that -- Han is known to be a productive system and people have alyways played games with characters for fun and scholar

Manyoushuu and Unicode, (was Re: Synthetic scripts, etc)

2002-03-15 Thread Rick McGowan
As long as we're on the subject of Han... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Well, I can even give up on classical writings (after all my knowledge > on classical writings, East or West, is too limited to discuss in > depth). But it strikes me to face the fact that some of you can't even > spell yo

Re: Synthetic scripts (was: Re: Private Use Agreements and Unapproved Characters)

2002-03-15 Thread Rick McGowan
This line that Everson quoted from Kogai made my ears prick up: > ... if Tengwar be added BEFORE Ciao-Ciao's poetries and > Man-Yo-Shu become encodable in Unicode. Huh? Can you send us a list of the precise characters lacking in Unicode 3.2 to encode the Man-Yo-Shu? That's an important work, a

Re: Private Use Agreements and Unapproved Characters

2002-03-14 Thread Rick McGowan
Stefan Persson or someone said... >> Is there any chance that Tengwar and Cirth might become parts of the UCS? I >> know that they have been proposed for inclusion, but all proposed characters >> don't have to be included in the standard... > >Of the insiders, some are strongly for it and have sa

Re: Devanagari variations

2002-03-08 Thread Rick McGowan
Peter, I think we should not, under the circumstances, encode another character for this. People shouldn't be writing software for "Hindi support" that is too lame to be able to render such a thing just because it's not "in the block". (They might not render it for other reasons, such as "

Re: Devanagari enthousiasm!

2002-03-06 Thread Rick McGowan
At 11:03 -0800 2002-06-03, John Hudson wrote: > >No, a Unicode font does not need to contain Latin letters. And Michael Everson responded: > A valid ISO/IEC 10646 subset must contain ASCII. But a font is not a ISO/IEC 10646 subset! By definition, it contains glyph codes, not character codes.

Re: How to make "oo" with combining breve/macron over pair?

2002-03-05 Thread Rick McGowan
Hopwood wrote: > There is only one use of CGJ: to link characters into a single grapheme > cluster Yeah, maybe, but I'm still lingering in the "shouldn't have been encoded" camp. It happens to me every time we encode another control-like thingamabob to solve a dubious "plain text" problem...

RE: How to make "oo" with combining breve/macron over pair?

2002-03-05 Thread Rick McGowan
> http://www.bartleby.com/images/pronunciation/oomacr.gif > http://www.bartleby.com/images/pronunciation/oobreve.gif All of this talk with using CGJ, etc, for double diacritics has me a bit worried. It seems to be becoming rather the latest faddish thing to find new uses for CGJ. In this ca

Re: Theban alphabet?

2002-02-28 Thread Rick McGowan
Curtis Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 10:13 AM 2/28/02, Kenneth Whistler wrote: > >It sounds to me that if Eric Raymond wants to pursue this, he > >needs to get his act together (and maybe some Wiccans to support > >him) to actually update and submit the proposal to the committees. > > Thi

Re: Theban alphabet?

2002-02-25 Thread Rick McGowan
As far as I know, this proposal was never submitted to UTC or WG2. And I find no discussion of Theban in the archives beyond a few passing mentions. Rick > There is a full proposal for the Theban alphabet at: > . Has anyone here ever seen > it?

FW: Combining letters in Devanagiri

2002-02-22 Thread Rick McGowan
BTW, I actually answered this person yesterday, re Devanagari, since he posted to other addresses as well. A note on the Yahoo page might be wise. But, how much need is there for the Yahoo group at this point? The complete archives are on-line at unicode.org in hypermail format. Ri

Re: Unicode and Security

2002-02-04 Thread Rick McGowan
Gaspar Sinai... Pursuing this kind of trivia hunt for "bugs" in an environment employing Unicode is not any different than prusuing the same kind of bugs in any other environment. It is within the purview of the security community to find such bugs before hackers find them. But those bugs

Re: Should I propose KARA?

2002-02-04 Thread Rick McGowan
> Should I propose it? No. It's already encoded. Everything in the older JIS sets is already encoded. If it's not U+301C then it's U+FF5E. Rick

Re: Unicode and Security

2002-02-02 Thread Rick McGowan
A while back there was some discussion of security. You could start by checking the list archies for those threads. > Is Unicode secure? What character standards can be > considered secure? What does "security" really mean for a character encoding? In my opinion, security is related to bugs i

Re: RE: ICU's uconv vs Linux iconv and UTF-8

2002-02-01 Thread Rick McGowan
Marco wrote... > The web version of the data seems more up to date than the ftp site. They are the same files, available through different protocols! Rick

Keyboard mapping on Windows XP?

2002-01-31 Thread Rick McGowan
Recently I got Windows XP. Now I need to "fix" the keyboard. On Windows 98 I used to use the great ZDKeyMap utility (a virtual driver available at zdnet.com) to remap several keys on my keyboard. This utility doesn't work with Windows XP. Does anyone out there have a keyboard re-mapping util

Re: MISTER YUCK

2002-01-28 Thread Rick McGowan
"Mr YuK" is a logo put out by the National Capital Poison Center. It comes on stickers like this: http://www.poison.org/mrYuk.htm Rick

Re: MISTER YUCK

2002-01-28 Thread Rick McGowan
Oh, yeah, and if you go to the Mr Yuk page, you'll get a 1.4 meg WAV file that gives you the Mr Yuk sound bite! Rick

Re: MISTER YUK

2002-01-28 Thread Rick McGowan
> "Corporations have placed his face on the product labels of hazardous > materials, and publishing companies have used the symbol in textbooks > and standardized tests to represent poisons." Don't get all excited yet, Michael. It says "in textbooks" not "as a character in running text."

Re: POSITIVELY MUST READ! Bytext is here!

2002-01-25 Thread Rick McGowan
> Unicode now has a serious competitor. Kllhk!! Kllhk!! Kllhk! Whoa! Almost choked on my tofu burger! Oh dewd, you have it so, like, all wrong... Universal character encoding isn't about Competition and Marketing, it's about everybody doin' it in the road, all together like, in love, peace,

Re: RE: Unicode 3.2: BETA files updated

2002-01-25 Thread Rick McGowan
Ken let the cat out of the bag: > Unicode 5.0 will be published on December 22, 2007... > complete with a remastered Unicode hymn... It's true. We've already booked an Abbey Road studio for five days in March 2007, and we've signed 75 of the hottest young voices in the world to be in the cho

Re: Has anyone looked at Laban dance notation?

2002-01-25 Thread Rick McGowan
Michael Everson wrote: > Any candidate for encoding has to meet certain criteria. Like Klingon > didn't. One of those criteria would be "doable". Another would be > "meets user requirements". A priori rejection of things makes me > nervous, though. Yeah. I agree that a priori rejection of Labano

Re: Maya numerals

2002-01-24 Thread Rick McGowan
I would just encode the 20 numerals. However, nobody has yet come up with a comprehensive proposal, so I would defer any discussion to the point at which some expert(s) have an opinion about the script in general. Rick

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