"Bunny hill" symbol, used in America for signaling ski pistes for novices

2015-05-28 Thread Philippe Verdy
Is there a symbol that can represent the "Bunny hill" symbol used in North America and some other American territories with mountains, to designate the ski pistes open to novice skiers (those pistes are signaled with green signs in Europe). I'm looking for the symbol itself, not the color, or the

Re: "Bunny hill" symbol, used in America for signaling ski pistes for novices

2015-05-28 Thread Leonardo Boiko
You could use U+1F407 RABBIT combined with U+20E4 COMBINING ENCLOSING UPWARD POINTING TRIANGLE, and pretend the triangle is a hill. šŸ‡ āƒ¤ If only we had a combining rabbit, we could add rabbits to U+1F3D4 SNOW CAPPED MOUNTAIN. Or anything else. 2015-05-28 16:46 GMT-03:00 Philippe Verdy : > Is t

Re: "Bunny hill" symbol, used in America for signaling ski pistes for novices

2015-05-28 Thread Philippe Verdy
Well also these symbols, if you want (these are not really "diamonds"), but the wordpress page forgets the "bunny hill". It starts only with the green circle (in fact a black disc colored in green) which maps to blue pistes in Europe. 2015-05-28 21:59 GMT+02:00 Shervin Afshar : > Single and doubl

Re: "Bunny hill" symbol, used in America for signaling ski pistes for novices

2015-05-28 Thread Shervin Afshar
Single and double diamond? https://bbliss176.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/symbols2_jpg.jpg http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_2Rc9ifOGLYg/TO5fF0XNTSI/IxE/RJPvVDD6gLM/s1600/caution-double-black-diamond.jpg http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/double-black-diamond-sign-legend-ski-slopes-map-40955860.jpg ā†Ŗ

RE: "Bunny hill" symbol, used in America for signaling ski pistes for novices

2015-05-28 Thread Shawn Steele
: Unicode [mailto:unicode-boun...@unicode.org] On Behalf Of Philippe Verdy Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 12:47 PM To: unicode Unicode Discussion Subject: "Bunny hill" symbol, used in America for signaling ski pistes for novices Is there a symbol that can represent the "Bunny hill"

Re: "Bunny hill" symbol, used in America for signaling ski pistes for novices

2015-05-28 Thread Shervin Afshar
Well...to pick the nit, these shapes are rhombi; known colloquially as "diamonds". So what's the symbol for "bunny hill" in Europe? ā†Ŗ Shervin On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Philippe Verdy wrote: > Well also these symbols, if you want (these are not really "diamonds"), > but the wordpress pag

Re: "Bunny hill" symbol, used in America for signaling ski pistes for novices

2015-05-28 Thread Philippe Verdy
Very poor suggestion I think. This is a single symbol by itself. 2015-05-28 22:02 GMT+02:00 Leonardo Boiko : > You could use U+1F407 RABBIT combined with U+20E4 COMBINING ENCLOSING > UPWARD POINTING TRIANGLE, and pretend the triangle is a hill. [image: šŸ‡] > āƒ¤ > > If only we had a combining rabbi

Re: "Bunny hill" symbol, used in America for signaling ski pistes for novices

2015-05-28 Thread Philippe Verdy
my experience those are > usually just green. > > > > Arenā€™t there a lot of cartography symbols for various systems that arenā€™t > present in Unicode? > > > > *From:* Unicode [mailto:unicode-boun...@unicode.org] *On Behalf Of *Philippe > Verdy > *Sent:* Thursday,

Re: "Bunny hill" symbol, used in America for signaling ski pistes for novices

2015-05-28 Thread Philippe Verdy
I saif it: there's no symbol in Europe for pistes, just colors. The American "Bunny hill" maps to "green" pistes in Europe. (the European piste colors are used also for drawing their ways on maps, not just found in signages). Piste signs are typically all the same shape in the same station (most of

Re: "Bunny hill" symbol, used in America for signaling ski pistes for novices

2015-05-28 Thread Shervin Afshar
Makes sense. But it doesn't seem like we need any new symbols. I think one of these should do for hard and extra-hard slopes: http://unicode.org/cldr/utility/list-unicodeset.jsp?a=%5B%3Aname%3D%2FDIAMOND%2F%3A%5D&g= Also, I'm not at all against making use of the actual [image: šŸ‡]we have. I will n

Re: "Bunny hill" symbol, used in America for signaling ski pistes for novices

2015-05-28 Thread Leonardo Boiko
Serious question: Has someone discussed a generic combining mechanism? I mean, characters with an effect like "combine the last two". Say, '!' + '?' + COMBINING OVERLAY = 'ā€½'. '!' + '!' + COMBINING SIDE BY SIDE = 'ā€¼', and so on. Similar in spirit to the Ideographic Description Characters, but me

Re: "Bunny hill" symbol, used in America for signaling ski pistes for novices

2015-05-28 Thread Doug Ewell
http://www.signsofthemountains.com/what-do-the-symbols-on-ski-trail-signs-mean-d/ http://news.outdoortechnology.com/2015/02/04/ski-slope-rating-symbols-mean-really-mean/ Looks like a green circle is the symbol for a beginner slope. (The first link also shows that "piste" is the European word for w

Re: "Bunny hill" symbol, used in America for signaling ski pistes for novices

2015-05-28 Thread Philippe Verdy
What you'd like is in act similar to the zero-width joiner, between two combining sequences, to make them overlap. A sort of "negative-width" joiner that we could call "overlay joiner". So '!' + OVERLAY JOINER + '?' = 'ā€½'. But in legacy charsets, this role was encoded as a BACKSPACE control (it w

RE: "Bunny hill" symbol, used in America for signaling ski pistes for novices

2015-05-28 Thread Shawn Steele
: "Bunny hill" symbol, used in America for signaling ski pistes for novices I no longer ski, but I did so for many years, mostly (but not exclusively) in the western United States. I never encountered, at any USA ski hill/mountain/resort, a special symbol for "bunny hills",

Re: "Bunny hill" symbol, used in America for signaling ski pistes for novices

2015-05-28 Thread Philippe Verdy
here a lot of cartography symbols for various systems that arenā€™t > present in Unicode? > > > > *From:* Unicode [mailto:unicode-boun...@unicode.org > ] *On Behalf Of *Philippe Verdy > *Sent:* Thursday, May 28, 2015 12:47 PM > *To:* unicode Unicode Discussion > *Subject:*

RE: "Bunny hill" symbol, used in America for signaling ski pistes for novices

2015-05-28 Thread Shawn Steele
Subject: Re: "Bunny hill" symbol, used in America for signaling ski pistes for novices Some documentations also suggest that the two diamonds are not stacked one above the other, but horizontally. It's a good point for using only one symbol, encoding it twice in plain-text if need

Re: "Bunny hill" symbol, used in America for signaling ski pistes for novices

2015-05-28 Thread Philippe Verdy
The "green" physical color does not need encoding. A black disc is enough, just like the black square and the black diamond/romb (the rest is styling). There's also the orange oval (horizontal) used for free-rides in America (in Europe, not symbol but the yellow color, used for some authorized "fr

Re: "Bunny hill" symbol, used in America for signaling ski pistes for novices

2015-05-28 Thread Shervin Afshar
t:* Thursday, May 28, 2015 2:12 PM > *To:* Jim Melton > *Cc:* Shawn Steele; unicode Unicode Discussion > *Subject:* Re: "Bunny hill" symbol, used in America for signaling ski > pistes for novices > > > > Some documentations also suggest that the two diamonds are no

Re: "Bunny hill" symbol, used in America for signaling ski pistes for novices

2015-05-28 Thread Philippe Verdy
2015-05-28 22:59 GMT+02:00 Doug Ewell : > Looks like a green circle is the symbol for a beginner slope. (The first > link also shows that "piste" is the European word for what we call a > trail, run, or slope). There is no difference between a "bunny slope" > and a "beginner" or "novice" slope. >

RE: "Bunny hill" symbol, used in America for signaling ski pistes for novices

2015-05-28 Thread Shawn Steele
symbol. From: Unicode [mailto:unicode-boun...@unicode.org] On Behalf Of Philippe Verdy Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 2:26 PM To: Doug Ewell Cc: Unicode Mailing List Subject: Re: "Bunny hill" symbol, used in America for signaling ski pistes for novices 2015-05-28 22:59 GMT+02:00

Re: "Bunny hill" symbol, used in America for signaling ski pistes for novices

2015-05-28 Thread Leo Broukhis
m [mailto:ver...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Philippe >> Verdy >> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 2:12 PM >> To: Jim Melton >> Cc: Shawn Steele; unicode Unicode Discussion >> Subject: Re: "Bunny hill" symbol, used in America for signaling ski pistes >> for n

Re: "Bunny hill" symbol, used in America for signaling ski pistes for novices

2015-05-28 Thread Philippe Verdy
mbol. > > > > *From:* Unicode [mailto:unicode-boun...@unicode.org] *On Behalf Of *Philippe > Verdy > *Sent:* Thursday, May 28, 2015 2:26 PM > *To:* Doug Ewell > *Cc:* Unicode Mailing List > *Subject:* Re: "Bunny hill" symbol, used in America for signaling ski >

RE: "Bunny hill" symbol, used in America for signaling ski pistes for novices

2015-05-28 Thread Shawn Steele
: "Bunny hill" symbol, used in America for signaling ski pistes for novices The rope (or other barriers) are also present in Europe, but they are considered true "pistes" by themselves, even if they are relatively short. In frequent cases they are connected upward to a blue pi

Re: "Bunny hill" symbol, used in America for signaling ski pistes for novices

2015-05-28 Thread Philippe Verdy
> >> > >> > >> > >> -Shawn > >> > >> > >> > >> From: ver...@gmail.com [mailto:ver...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Philippe > >> Verdy > >> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 2:12 PM > >> To: Jim Melton > >

Re: "Bunny hill" symbol, used in America for signaling ski pistes for novices

2015-05-28 Thread Asmus Freytag (t)
On 5/28/2015 2:15 PM, Shawn Steele wrote: Iā€™m used to them being next to each other. So the entire discussion seems to be about how to encode a concept vs how to get the shape you want with existing code points. If you just want the perfect shape, then maybe an svg is a better choice. If

RE: "Bunny hill" symbol, used in America for signaling ski pistes for novices

2015-05-30 Thread Shawn Steele
Iā€™m really curious to see one of these signs. Is it a regional thing? From: Unicode [mailto:unicode-boun...@unicode.org] On Behalf Of Leonardo Boiko Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 1:02 PM To: Philippe Verdy Cc: unicode Unicode Discussion Subject: Re: "Bunny hill" symbol, used in A

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2015-05-29 Thread Jƶrg Knappen
:Ā Donnerstag, 28. Mai 2015 um 23:20 Uhr Von:Ā "Shervin Afshar" An:Ā "Shawn Steele" Cc:Ā "verd...@wanadoo.fr" , "unicode Unicode Discussion" , "Jim Melton" Betreff:Ā Re: "Bunny hill" symbol, used in America for signaling ski pistes for novices Since

Re: Re: "Bunny hill" symbol, used in America for signaling ski pistes for novices

2015-05-30 Thread Philippe Verdy
quot; > *Cc:* "verd...@wanadoo.fr" , "unicode Unicode > Discussion" , "Jim Melton" > *Betreff:* Re: "Bunny hill" symbol, used in America for signaling ski > pistes for novices > Since the double-diamond has map and map legend usage, it migh

RE: Re: "Bunny hill" symbol, used in America for signaling ski pistes for novices

2015-05-30 Thread Shawn Steele
: Saturday, May 30, 2015 2:56 PM To: Jƶrg Knappen Cc: Shervin Afshar; unicode Unicode Discussion Subject: Re: Re: "Bunny hill" symbol, used in America for signaling ski pistes for novices But observations show that the vertical stacking is not universal. Horizontal stacking is also used in