RE: Handwritten EURO sign (off topic?)

2003-08-18 Thread Jill . Ramonsky
For what it's worth, in America, you spell it meter; in England, you spell it metre. Jill -Original Message- From: Philippe Verdy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 5:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Handwritten EURO sign (off topic?) SI units already have

Re: Handwritten EURO sign (off topic?)

2003-08-17 Thread Peter Kirk
On 16/08/2003 21:51, Philippe Verdy wrote: Note that USA, UK, Australia and New Zealand are members, even if they often can use legally or most usually the British system (miles, weight pounds, gallons, degrees Fahrenheit...) USA and UK do use this alternative system, except that the US gallon

Re: Handwritten EURO sign (off topic?)

2003-08-17 Thread John Cowan
Peter Kirk scripsit: USA and UK do use this alternative system, except that the US gallon is different from the British one (exactly 20% smaller I think), For the record, it's true that the Imperial gallon has 20 fluid ounces and the Fred Flintstone gallon only 16, *but* it's also true that

Re: Handwritten EURO sign (off topic?)

2003-08-17 Thread Rick McGowan
John Cowan remarked... Of course it's the *pint* (8 pints to a gallon) that is 16 or 20 fluid ounces. Which explains to me why a pint of bitter in England seems quite so enormous... well for a small Yank... ;-) Rick

Re: Handwritten EURO sign (off topic?)

2003-08-17 Thread Michael Everson
At 18:01 -0400 2003-08-17, John Cowan wrote: Yup. Hence also the Brit's complaint about the metric system: a liter of beer is too much, half a liter isn't enough, but a pint, ah, that's just right. The Imperial pint is .57 liters, whereas the Flintstone one is only .47 liters. A half-litre can

Re: Handwritten EURO sign (off topic?)

2003-08-17 Thread Peter Kirk
On 17/08/2003 15:16, Michael Everson wrote: At 18:01 -0400 2003-08-17, John Cowan wrote: Yup. Hence also the Brit's complaint about the metric system: a liter of beer is too much, half a liter isn't enough, but a pint, ah, that's just right. The Imperial pint is .57 liters, whereas the

Re: Handwritten EURO sign (off topic?)

2003-08-16 Thread Anto'nio Martins-Tuva'lkin
On 2003.08.14, 00:52, Anto'nio Martins-Tuva'lkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the dollar sign can be used for currencies other than the USD, even for some which name is not even dollar, then I suppose there is a theoreitical possiblity that it may be used as a symbol of euro cent (though I

Re: Handwritten EURO sign (off topic?)

2003-08-16 Thread Anto'nio Martins-Tuva'lkin
On 2003.08.14, 05:24, John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anto'nio Martins-Tuva'lkin scripsit: Some habits are indeed language dependant, but some others are just tradition (some of it imposed as logic and correct decades ago, like compulsive caseless singular for SI units in speech), and

Re: Handwritten EURO sign (off topic?)

2003-08-16 Thread Philippe Verdy
From: Anto'nio Martins-Tuva'lkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 10:22 PM Subject: Re: Handwritten EURO sign (off topic?) On 2003.08.14, 05:24, John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anto'nio Martins-Tuva'lkin scripsit: Some habits are indeed language

Re: Handwritten EURO sign (off topic?)

2003-08-15 Thread Marion Gunn
Not pausing to wonder why on earth this list [EMAIL PROTECTED] is currently discussing my country's currencies, only to wonder if anyone here knows whether Ireland is the only EU country which has to use two - in Belfast we use Pounds Sterling (£), and in Dublin euro (€). mg ps. To

Re: Handwritten EURO sign (off topic?)

2003-08-15 Thread Michael Everson
At 11:47 +0100 2003-08-15, Marion Gunn wrote: Not pausing to wonder why on earth this list [EMAIL PROTECTED] is currently discussing my country's currencies, only to wonder if anyone here knows whether Ireland is the only EU country which has to use two - in Belfast we use Pounds Sterling

RE: Handwritten EURO sign (off topic?)

2003-08-15 Thread Jill . Ramonsky
PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Handwritten EURO sign (off topic?) Not pausing to wonder why on earth this list [EMAIL PROTECTED] is currently discussing my country's currencies, only to wonder if anyone here knows whether Ireland is the only EU country which has to use two - in Belfast we use Pounds Sterling

Re: Handwritten EURO sign (off topic?)

2003-08-15 Thread Peter Kirk
On 15/08/2003 04:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's more, in the Isle of Man (which is situated between Britain and Ireland) they accept pretty much any currency under the sun. You can pay for things in a mixture of pounds sterling, euro, US dollars, whatever. They don't care. Shops will just

Re: Handwritten EURO sign (off topic?)

2003-08-15 Thread Philippe Verdy
From: Peter Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Agreed. But it's not a member or part of the EU, or of the UK, like the Channel Islands - which makes them all convenient tax havens. It is self-governing, with the oldest Parliament in the world I understand. I thought it was in Iceland...

Re: Handwritten EURO sign (off topic?)

2003-08-15 Thread John Cowan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] scripsit: What's more, in the Isle of Man (which is situated between Britain and Ireland) they accept pretty much any currency under the sun. You can pay for things in a mixture of pounds sterling, euro, US dollars, whatever. They don't care. Shops will just take anything,

Re: Handwritten EURO sign (off topic?)

2003-08-14 Thread Peter Kirk
On 14/08/2003 09:54, Michael Everson wrote: Lepton in Greek was accepted from the beginning. Leptó pl leptá. The same word as the original widow's mite (Mark 12:42). Probably worth even less now! -- Peter Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) http://www.qaya.org/

Re: Handwritten EURO sign (off topic?)

2003-08-14 Thread Patrick Andries
- Message d'origine - De: Marco Cimarosti [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anto'nio Martins-Tuva'lkin wrote: After all the euro is a common currency and its figures should be written in a common way. Why? Very good question. Multilingual countries like Belgium or Canada already were or are

Re: Handwritten EURO sign (off topic?)

2003-08-14 Thread Stefan Persson
James H. Cloos Jr. wrote: Anto'nio == Anto'nio Martins-Tuva'lkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anto'nio (Let alone the validity of things Anto'nio like k, c etc.) I'm sure things like m, k, M and even G will come into use, though I expect more will use them in front of the digits. I certainly use

Re: Handwritten EURO sign (off topic?)

2003-08-14 Thread Michael Everson
At 00:52 +0100 2003-08-14, Anto'nio Martins-Tuva'lkin wrote: Using the cent sign is mostly US specific and the symbol is not recognized as such in most European countries, so the cent sign is bound directly to the dollar. If the dollar sign can be used for currencies other than the USD,

Re: Handwritten EURO sign (off topic?)

2003-08-14 Thread James H. Cloos Jr.
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Re: Handwritten EURO sign (off topic?)

2003-08-14 Thread Michael Everson
At 00:24 -0400 2003-08-14, John Cowan wrote: There are surely other countries that use $ as their currency symbol even though their currency is not called dollar. Such as Mexico, where $ means peso. In Portugal, cêntimo (officialy and in practice). It seems that the changelessness of this

Re: Handwritten EURO sign (off topic?)

2003-08-14 Thread James H. Cloos Jr.
Anto'nio == Anto'nio Martins-Tuva'lkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anto'nio (Let alone the validity of things Anto'nio like k, c etc.) I'm sure things like m, k, M and even G will come into use, though I expect more will use them in front of the digits. I certainly use m$, k$ et al, and regulary

Re: Handwritten EURO sign (off topic?)

2003-08-14 Thread Rick McGowan
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Re: Handwritten EURO sign (off topic?)

2003-08-14 Thread Anto'nio Martins-Tuva'lkin
James H. Cloos Jr. wrote: I'm sure things like m€, k€, M€ and even G€ will come into use, though I expect more will use them in front of the digits. Perhaps, but that would be incorrect, methinks: Using SI preffixes implies that one is adopting the said unit (the euro, in this case) as if it

Re: Handwritten EURO sign (off topic?)

2003-08-14 Thread Peter Kirk
On 14/08/2003 09:50, Michael Everson wrote: In Ireland of course when we used pence we wrote 2p and said two pee. And we still do in the UK! -- Peter Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) http://www.qaya.org/

RE: Handwritten EURO sign (off topic?)

2003-08-14 Thread Marco Cimarosti
Anto'nio Martins-Tuva'lkin wrote: On 2003.08.06, 11:12, Philippe Verdy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the placement of the currency unit symbol or multiple is language dependant, and the same local practices are used with the euro, as the one used for pre-euro currencies. You mean that

Re: Handwritten EURO sign (off topic?)

2003-08-14 Thread Philippe Verdy
After all the euro is a common currency and its figures should be written in a common way. Why? Why, too? This is absolutely not required by the european directives, which has already stated different names for the subdivision for each language, and accepted distinct plural forms, as well

Re: Handwritten EURO sign (off topic?)

2003-08-14 Thread Philippe Verdy
On Tuesday, August 05, 2003 10:54 PM, Stefan Persson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: James H. Cloos Jr. wrote: Anto'nio == Anto'nio Martins-Tuva'lkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anto'nio (Let alone the validity of things Anto'nio like k, c etc.) I'm sure things like m, k, M and even

Re: Handwritten EURO sign (off topic?)

2003-08-10 Thread James H. Cloos Jr.
Stefan == Stefan Persson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Stefan m and m$ would be millieuros and millidollars. How could Stefan anyone need anything like that? On this side of the pond, fuel prices per gallon are quoted in m$; I presume they quote m$ per Litre in CA, though it has been long enough

Re: Handwritten EURO sign (off topic?)

2003-08-10 Thread Pim Blokland
Michael Everson schreef: You are lucky not having to put up with bad English like five euro and six cent, living in the Netherlands and speaking Dutch as you do. Funny. In our language, the euro behaves just as the guilder always did, that is, the very same as what you call bad English. We

Re: Handwritten EURO sign (off topic?)

2003-08-05 Thread Anto'nio Martins-Tuva'lkin
On 2003.08.05, 16:55, Doug Ewell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any symbol that looks remotely like a C with two (nearly) horizontal cross-strokes, appearing before a numeric value, Actually, most people here use it *after* the number. Which is only logical, if we follow speech, common sence and the