Update on flag tags (PRI #299)?

2015-08-13 Thread Doug Ewell
The recently posted minutes from UTC #144 http://www.unicode.org/L2/L2015/15187.htm include the following: B.11.1.1.3 PRI 299 feedback and mailing list discussion [Edberg, L2/15-210] Discussion. UTC took no action at this time. and: [144-A93] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Close PRI #299

RE: Update on flag tags (PRI #299)?

2015-08-13 Thread Doug Ewell
Ken Whistler kenwhistler at att dot net wrote: but the upshot is basically that the Emoji SC has general direction to take all the feedback and discussion and work up a more detailed proposal that addresses all of the issues involved. At some point that will appear as a new proposal for

Re: Update on flag tags (PRI #299)?

2015-08-13 Thread Ken Whistler
Doug, On 8/13/2015 7:58 AM, Doug Ewell wrote: The recently posted minutes from UTC #144 http://www.unicode.org/L2/L2015/15187.htm include the following: B.11.1.1.3 PRI 299 feedback and mailing list discussion [Edberg, L2/15-210] Discussion. UTC took no action at this time. and: [144-A93

RE: PRI #299

2015-07-06 Thread Doug Ewell
, a specific version thereof, or a specific editor, word processor, or browser under that OS and version? I think a useful bit of feedback on PRI #299 would be to inquire whether it is, in fact, a design goal to handle this use case of transparency of Huh? What kind of a deliberate design goal

Re: PRI #299

2015-07-06 Thread Mark Davis ☕️
On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 5:53 PM, Leo Broukhis l...@mailcom.com wrote: Most platforms display unknown printable characters as white rectangles with hex digits in them. In Doug's message, I saw a rectangle with 01F in the upper row, and 3F3 in the lower row. This is a handy feature, at least

Re: PRI #299

2015-07-06 Thread Asmus Freytag (t)
On 7/6/2015 8:18 AM, Doug Ewell wrote: Most platforms display unknown printable characters as white rectangles with hex digits in them. In Doug's message, I saw a rectangle with 01F in the upper row, and 3F3 in the lower row. This is a handy

Re: PRI #299

2015-07-06 Thread Leo Broukhis
with stylized letters would be sufficient to read the intent of the writer, and, as a free extra, to tell apart Liechtenstein and Haiti without squinting. I think a useful bit of feedback on PRI #299 would be to inquire whether it is, in fact, a design goal to handle this use case of transparency

Re: PRI #299

2015-07-06 Thread Doug Ewell
bit of feedback on PRI #299 would be to inquire whether it is, in fact, a design goal to handle this use case of transparency of the individual letters on platforms, rendering engines, and/or fonts that don't support flag-tag composition. (Please, not non-vexillology-aware. None of these platforms

Re: PRI #299 (was: Re: Adding RAINBOW FLAG to Unicode)

2015-07-03 Thread Leo Broukhis
not resembling a flag, but indicative of the intention to display a flag, like RIS can be, as opposed to nondescript white flags. This is just a personal prediction, but I'd guess that once the PRI #299 mechanism hits the streets, U+1F3F3 WAVING WHITE FLAG will be used overwhelmingly for tag sequences

Re: PRI #299

2015-07-03 Thread Ken Whistler
On 7/3/2015 9:14 PM, Leo Broukhis wrote: On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Doug Ewell d...@ewellic.org wrote: Leo Broukhis leob at mailcom dot com wrote: What I don't like about PRI #399 is its proposing to use default- ignorable characters. On a non-vexillology-aware platform, I'd like to

Re: PRI #299

2015-07-03 Thread Leo Broukhis
Most platforms display unknown printable characters as white rectangles with hex digits in them. In Doug's message, I saw a rectangle with 01F in the upper row, and 3F3 in the lower row. Moreover, on any platform when users see unknown characters, they search for a font, install it and are able to

Re: PRI #299 (was: Re: Adding RAINBOW FLAG to Unicode)

2015-07-03 Thread Asmus Freytag (t)
that once the PRI #299 mechanism hits the streets, U+1F3F3 WAVING WHITE FLAG will be used overwhelmingly for tag sequences and comparatively seldom on its own. When a reader sees , it might be relatively safe to assume the writer intended to display a specific flag

PRI #299 (was: Re: Adding RAINBOW FLAG to Unicode)

2015-07-03 Thread Doug Ewell
RIS can be, as opposed to nondescript white flags. This is just a personal prediction, but I'd guess that once the PRI #299 mechanism hits the streets, U+1F3F3 WAVING WHITE FLAG will be used overwhelmingly for tag sequences and comparatively seldom on its own. When a reader sees , it might