RE: Proposed new characters updated in Pipeline Table

From: ver...@gmail.com [mailto:ver...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Philippe Verdy >>> These things are much easier if you are a member of the consortium (cost is >>> as little as $35/yr for students). >> >> Which may still be not negligible sum for some people, especially not >> US citizens... > In

Re: Proposed new characters updated in Pipeline Table

> encoding of a Syriac Aliph-Wasla remains open. None of these options > have been formally dismissed. But if the separate Wasla is only needed > for the use in Syriac in the sepecific complinatioon with the Syriac > Aliph, it's probably best to encode only the Syriac Aliph-Wasla, as I'm not compl

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You seem to think that I was speaking about a "new" Arabic Alef-Wasla. I was absolutely not speaking about it, but about the proposed (still unencoded) separate Wasla. If it's not encoded, it *cannot* be found in the DerivedAge.txt You seem to misinterpret what I wrote by going exactly the rev

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2011/8/15 mmarx : > I took Roozbeh's answer for the final word, > because the unicode world is still full > of secrets to me. I guess he knows from > years of experience. > But I admit that it strikes me as a bit odd > given the fact that there is both > ARABIC LETTER ALEF WITH MADDA ABOVE (U+0622)

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On 8/15/2011 10:38 AM, Philippe Verdy wrote: Unicode cannot encode a combining Wasla (because of various stability >> policies), so if Syriac needs a Wasla to be shown only over a letter >> or two, one needs to propose precomposed characters for them. Just >> like the existing Arabic Alef-Wasl

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2011/8/15 Petr Tomasek : > On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 07:38:07PM +0200, Philippe Verdy wrote: >> 2011/8/13 mmarx : >> >>> I attach a Garshuni document from >> >>> Beit al-Qammar showing Arab vowel >> >>> marks -- just as the Syriac communmties >> >>> are using Syriac vowel marks in Arabic >> >>> scrip

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On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 07:38:07PM +0200, Philippe Verdy wrote: > 2011/8/13 mmarx : > >>> I attach a Garshuni document from > >>> Beit al-Qammar showing Arab vowel > >>> marks -- just as the Syriac communmties > >>> are using Syriac vowel marks in Arabic > >>> script text -- and (in the second line

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Guten Tag Philippe Verdy, am Montag, 15. August 2011 um 19:38 schrieben Sie: > 2011/8/13 mmarx : I attach a Garshuni document from Beit al-Qammar showing Arab vowel marks -- just as the Syriac communmties are using Syriac vowel marks in Arabic script text -- and (in the s

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2011/8/13 mmarx : >>> I attach a Garshuni document from >>> Beit al-Qammar showing Arab vowel >>> marks -- just as the Syriac communmties >>> are using Syriac vowel marks in Arabic >>> script text -- and (in the second line >>> on the left) wasla above olaph. >>> >>> So whatever the status of wasla

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2011/8/14 Petr Tomasek : >> Submitting a doc to UTC is a basic requirement. The issue also needs to make >> it onto the agenda of a UTC meeting, and it helps to have a champion to make >> sure that happens and that can be available to discuss the issue with the >> UTC. These things are much easi

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> Submitting a doc to UTC is a basic requirement. The issue also needs to make > it onto the agenda of a UTC meeting, and it helps to have a champion to make > sure that happens and that can be available to discuss the issue with the > UTC. These things are much easier if you are a member of the

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On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 08:01:28PM +0200, mmarx wrote: > part2 of Syriac people writing language A in script B > > > Nowadays its the other way round: > many members of the Syriac communities have > difficulties reading their "own" script, so both > the Orthodoxe and the Catholic church have > pr

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Philippe Verdy wrote: Isn't there also a new datafile with beta status, that lists the usage of characters shared by multiple scripts ? That's the "provisional data file called ScriptExtensions" that Peter mentioned. -- Doug Ewell | Thornton, Colorado, USA | RFC 5645, 4645, UTN #14 www.ewel

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Isn't there also a new datafile with beta status, that lists the usage of characters shared by multiple scripts ? If so, it should also concern the Arabic-Syriac number sign (actually an abbreviated ligature of the Arabic word for year, with a subtended stroke that can span below several digits app

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> Apparently mmarx sent 2 messages that were CCed to the Unicode list, not > sent to it. The first was 598k and too large for the list. Ergo, the > beginning of this discussion didn't go to the list. > Rick Thanks for informing the list and me about this. I cut the picture. It's an Arab po

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part2 of Syriac people writing language A in script B Nowadays its the other way round: many members of the Syriac communities have difficulties reading their "own" script, so both the Orthodoxe and the Catholic church have prayer books printed with an Arab transcription of Syriac prayers. In the

RE: Proposed new characters updated in Pipeline Table

From: unicode-bou...@unicode.org [mailto:unicode-bou...@unicode.org] On Behalf Of mmarx > While I am at it: > should Unicode acknowledge that U+0730, U+0733, U+0736, U+073A > and U+073D are used with the ARAB script or does this lie outside its > competence and jurisdiction? Unicode has chara

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>> I attach a Garshuni document from >> Beit al-Qammar showing Arab vowel >> marks -- just as the Syriac communmties >> are using Syriac vowel marks in Arabic >> script text -- and (in the second line >> on the left) wasla above olaph. >> >> So whatever the status of wasla mark >> will be fore Arab

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On 8/12/2011 6:41 PM, mmarx wrote: I attach a Garshuni document from Beit al-Qammar showing Arab vowel marks -- just as the Syriac communmties are using Syriac vowel marks in Arabic script text -- and (in the second line on the left) wasla above olaph. So whatever the status of wasla mark will b

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On Fri, 2011-08-12 at 17:43 -0500, Bob Hallissy wrote: > For Arabic, I've been trying to keep this page up-to-date, and it may > help you: > > http://scriptsource.org/entry/hqr6rc9md5 And I try to keep a rather updated list of still-unproposed/undecided stuff at: http://goo.gl/tlfgx Roozbeh

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For Arabic, I've been trying to keep this page up-to-date, and it may help you: http://scriptsource.org/entry/hqr6rc9md5 Bob On 2011-08-12 at 3:17 mmarx wrote: Where can I get the details of the proposed characters? I'm especially interested in 0605 1 ARABIC NUMBER MARK ABOV

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Where can I get the details of the proposed characters? I'm especially interested in 0605 1 ARABIC NUMBER MARK ABOVE 08A2..08A9 8 Extended Arabic letters for African languages 08F0..08F3 4 ARABIC OPEN FATHATAN ARABIC OPEN DAMMATAN

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On 08/12/2011 05:46 AM, announceme...@unicode.org wrote: Grantha and several other historic scripts, and many new symbols to Just a clarification -- Grantha is not a "historic" aka "extinct" script. We are still using it in limited contexts. Hence the phrase "Grantha and several other histori

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On 12 August 2011 07:13, Janusz S. Bień wrote: > > Where the details of the proposed characters are available? Links to the latest proposals for individual scripts are given on the Unicode roadmap pages: If you want to find out about proposals for individual c

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On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 Michael Everson wrote: > On 12 Aug 2011, at 08:13, Janusz S. Bień wrote: > >> Where the details of the proposed characters are available? >> I'm especially interested in Old Hungarian. > > See http://std.dkuug.dk/JTC1/SC2/WG2/docs/n4110.pdf Thank you very much for your quick

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On 12 Aug 2011, at 08:13, Janusz S. Bień wrote: > Where the details of the proposed characters are available? > I'm especially interested in Old Hungarian. See http://std.dkuug.dk/JTC1/SC2/WG2/docs/n4110.pdf Michael Everson * http://www.evertype.com/

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Where the details of the proposed characters are available? I'm especially interested in Old Hungarian. Regards JSB On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 announceme...@unicode.org wrote: > The Pipeline Table for proposed new characters has been updated to > reflect recent decisions by the UTC. Changes include