Im what the encoded representation
of the ya-phalaa in Oriya script is supposed to be. Im referring to the
typeform
In Unicode, this is considered a presentation
form of ya, but the problem is that there are two ya characters: U+0B2F ORIYA
LETTER YA
and U+0B5F ORIYA LETTER
Sorry, I need to revise this a bit, as I
just noticed my question is partially answered: there is a table in section 9.5
that shows U+0B5F YYA being displayed as ya-phalaa. So, my revised question,
then, is whether a sequence like , virama, U+0B2F ORIYA LETTER YA
should *also
Based on http://www.tdil.mit.gov.in/OriyaScriptDetailsApr02.pdf
I think that only YYA can be used to generate the Oriya ya-phalaa.
From: Ernest Cline [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Based on http://www.tdil.mit.gov.in/OriyaScriptDetailsApr02.pdf
I think that only YYA can be used to generate the Oriya ya-phalaa.
That doc tells me they expect ..., virama, YYA to display as
ya-phalaa, but it says nothing about how ..., virama
(and one would like corroboration) then simply
reverse the two. The solution is the same.
RA + VIRAMA is a pre-base substitution and pre-base stuff gets
processed first.
RA + ZWNJ + VIRAMA + YA might be the way to go in order to
disambiguate REPH + YA from RA + YA-PHALAA.
The problem
Mijan,
Unicode has a mechanism for producing the ya-phalaa conjunct, namely
by preceding the ya with virama. This works also in the unusual
situation where the consonant the ya-phalaa modifies is an
independent vowel.
A + VIRAMA + YA + -AA (this is aa-yaphalaa)
RA + VIRAMA + ZWJ + YA
At 17:41 + 2003-03-05, Andy White wrote:
Unicode has a mechanism for producing the ya-phalaa conjunct, namely
by preceding the ya with virama. This works also in the unusual
situation where the consonant the ya-phalaa modifies is an
independent vowel.
A + VIRAMA + YA + -AA
Michael Everson wrote:
[...]
RA + VIRAMA + ZWJ + YA (this is the reph-ya)
RA + VIRAMA + YA (this is the ra-yaphalaa)
[...]
... in the
Indic OpenType secifications, you will see that a
Ra+Virama is recognised as reph before any other processing
is applied.
[...]
If this is the case
Andy, the ya-phalaa is a presentation form of cojoined YA, which is
produced in Unicode by the sequence VIRAMA + YA. Encoding it as
anything else makes very little sense at all. However it is
pronounced today in Bengali, and however weird you feel about its
being applied to an initial vowel
Michael, I do not wish to get into yet another long discussion
(argument) but I must reply to one point.
Your proposed combining ya-phalaa will do Bengali no service, as it
will introduce multiple spellings for consonant clusters in -YA.
Um, actually if you look, you will not find any place
At 21:14 + 2003-03-05, Andy White wrote:
I am replying to this portion of the reply as I feel it is a very
important revelation.
We weren't hiding it. This is part of the improvements to Unicode
that have been made for 4.0. One of the tasks I was given was to
improve the block descriptions
would like corroboration) then simply
reverse the two. The solution is the same.
RA + VIRAMA is a pre-base substitution and pre-base stuff gets
processed first.
RA + ZWNJ + VIRAMA + YA might be the way to go in order to
disambiguate REPH + YA from RA + YA-PHALAA.
Whatever method is chosen
I once wrote:
My thoughts were to put a ZWNJ after the Ra to indicate that is not
to form a Reph e.g. Ra+ZWNJ+Virama+Ya = Ra+Jophola
Then I remembered that in some font designs, secondary forms such
as jophola can form a conjunct ligature with the preceding
consonant.
I think that a
.
Andy White wrote,
No!
This is an example of stating something that can be read in two ways -
Hmmm, kind of like RA+VIRAMA+YA in current implementations?
unfortunatly you took an unintended meaning :-(
Actually, I did get the intended meaning. Unfortunately, though,
I didn't get it until
Jameskass wrote:
If a font designer makes a special ligature form of
RA+JOPHOLA, then the easy solution would be to put a look-up
in the font's GSUB table:
RA + ZWNJ + VIRAMA + YA --- my special ligature form
Now that simplicity makes me smile :-)
I would be surprised if anyone (even
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