[UC] Recognizing the need to reform the preservation process

2004-02-20 Thread Krfapt
Apparently even Councilman Jim Kenney, an ardent defender of the historic preservation concept, now recognizes that the process as currently practiced by the Historical Commission is severely flawed. He opposes Jannie Blackwell's Bill 040003 but tried to introduce one of his own, the intent of

[UC] Slate Roof Alternative

2004-02-20 Thread Jonathan Cass
I recently saw anextremely realisticslate roof alternative. It did not appear tobemade ofasphalt but insteadof a rubber-like material. Even on close examination, it looked exactly like slate. I believe that it is installed in individual pieces, like slate. I read somewhere that it is about

Re: [UC] gay marriage

2004-02-20 Thread John Ellingsworth
There is _no reason whatsoever_ to even _bother_ with debating fine points of the Bible on this matter. Or this matter for that matter. What is matter? Never mind. What is mind? Never matter. Who is gay? Who is married? You know what I say? None of your fucking business. Thanks, John

Re: [UC] Slate Roof?

2004-02-20 Thread William H. Magill
On 19 Feb, 2004, at 18:45, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/19/2004 12:46:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Re: Slate Roof. Unfortunately, replacing a slate roof has, in my opinion, become prohibitively expensive. Replacing ANY roof is very pricey - slate

Re: [UC] gay marriage

2004-02-20 Thread Samuel Nicolary
On Fri, 20 Feb 2004, Brian Siano wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sorry, Dan, but scripture is not clear on this subject. Just as the Bible has been manipulated to justify slavery, colonization of less developed peoples, and opression of women, scripture is still being

Re: [UC] gay marriage

2004-02-20 Thread aharon
Quoting Samuel Nicolary [EMAIL PROTECTED]: To say that the bible is not the basis of our legal system is a bit naive. I think it played a big role in the lives and morality of all the lawmakers that have contributed to it. I don't think I need to elaborate on that one. It is not as clear

Re: [UC] gay marriage

2004-02-20 Thread Brian Siano
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Samuel Nicolary [EMAIL PROTECTED]: To say that the bible is not the basis of our legal system is a bit naive. I think it played a big role in the lives and morality of all the lawmakers that have contributed to it. I don't think I need to elaborate on that

[UC] bibical stance (was gay marriage)

2004-02-20 Thread Monique . M . Harvey
Wow. Thanks for that enlightenment. I always knew there was something fishy about pointing to bibical text as proof God hates queers, but I've never seen it presented that way. That was great. Since there seem to be so many people who seek to use it as tool to hate, exclude, and inhibit, why

Re: [UC] gay marriage

2004-02-20 Thread Samuel Nicolary
On Fri, 20 Feb 2004, Brian Siano wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Samuel Nicolary [EMAIL PROTECTED]: To say that the bible is not the basis of our legal system is a bit naive. I think it played a big role in the lives and morality of all the lawmakers that have

Re: [UC] gay marriage

2004-02-20 Thread Monique . M . Harvey
Samuel - your point is a good one. And I add that perhaps in taking this a step at a time we may eventually as a society move closer toward affecting these kinds of social contracts regardless of the nature of the relationship between individuals. But there is one major point feel you have

[UC] biblical stance

2004-02-20 Thread Monique . M . Harvey
Just wanted to add that I was spellingbiblical incorectly in the past messages. I am hereby correcting the spelling in the subject line. M. M. Harvey You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see

Re: [UC] gay marriage

2004-02-20 Thread Samuel Nicolary
On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Samuel - your point is a good one. And I add that perhaps in taking this a step at a time we may eventually as a society move closer toward affecting these kinds of social contracts regardless of the nature of the relationship between

Re: [UC] gay marriage

2004-02-20 Thread Brian Siano
Samuel Nicolary wrote: I guess my point is that because laws are not required to be in accordance with the bible does not mean we should forget that most lawmakers throughout history have been christian or at least have pretended to be and that christianity has a huge impact on legislature both

Re: [UC] gay marriage

2004-02-20 Thread Monique . M . Harvey
...We can instantiate any amount of laws on the subject but that isn't going to make society and its various organizations accept it - that is not the role of government anyway, right? It is true that enacting a law cannot make people be more accepting of the issue, and that government cannot

Re: [UC] gay marriage

2004-02-20 Thread Samuel Nicolary
On Fri, 20 Feb 2004, Brian Siano wrote: Samuel Nicolary wrote: I guess my point is that because laws are not required to be in accordance with the bible does not mean we should forget that most lawmakers throughout history have been christian or at least have pretended to be and that

Re: [UC] gay marriage

2004-02-20 Thread Andrew Diller
Why even argue this? The Moron (yeah, the _moron_ born again freak that is leading our country) Bush, is about to amend the constitution against gay marriage. How can you all debate this and support this guy? (I'm saying _you all_, not just the quoted individuals in this thread)

Re: [UC] gay marriage

2004-02-20 Thread Andrew Diller
--On Friday, February 20, 2004 2:10 PM -0500 Samuel Nicolary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 20 Feb 2004, Andrew Diller wrote: Why even argue this? The Moron (yeah, the _moron_ born again freak that is leading our country) Bush, is about to amend the constitution against gay marriage. I

Re: [UC] gay marriage

2004-02-20 Thread Samuel Nicolary
On Fri, 20 Feb 2004, Andrew Diller wrote: Why even argue this? The Moron (yeah, the _moron_ born again freak that is leading our country) Bush, is about to amend the constitution against gay marriage. I didn't realize that the president branch of our government could ammend the constitution

Re: [UC] gay marriage

2004-02-20 Thread Samuel Nicolary
On Fri, 20 Feb 2004, Brian Siano wrote: Samuel Nicolary wrote: On Fri, 20 Feb 2004, Brian Siano wrote: Samuel Nicolary wrote: I guess my point is that because laws are not required to be in accordance with the bible does not mean we should forget that most lawmakers

Re: [UC] gay marriage

2004-02-20 Thread Monique . M . Harvey
My sedimants, exactly, Sam. How can anyone determine we are voting for Bush because we are discussing the gay marriage issue??? I hate to say it, but I don't see one bastard worth voting for in this upcoming election that would make my day. Not one. But you I can tell you now, and you can

RE: [UC] gay marriage

2004-02-20 Thread Jonathan Cass
I'm starting to miss the mean dog not on a leash discussions. Jonathan A. Cass Silverman, Bernheim Vogel Two Penn Center Plaza, Suite 910 Philadelphia, PA 19102 Tel: 215-636-4435 Fax: 215-636-3999 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This electronic message contains information from the law firm of

Re: [UC] gay marriage

2004-02-20 Thread Samuel Nicolary
On Fri, 20 Feb 2004, Andrew Diller wrote: --On Friday, February 20, 2004 2:10 PM -0500 Samuel Nicolary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 20 Feb 2004, Andrew Diller wrote: Why even argue this? The Moron (yeah, the _moron_ born again freak that is leading our country) Bush, is

[UC] FREE Events in March at the Penn Alexander Community School -- Please forward widely

2004-02-20 Thread Rashida Holmes
**FREE** PENN ALEXANDER COMMUNITY SCHOOL 4209 Spruce Street (Please enter at 43rd and Locust Streets) February 24, 2004 - March 30, 2004 CALENDAR OF EVENTS See Below for Details about these exciting upcoming events at the Penn Alexander Community School: Puppet Show and Puppet Making Workshop

Re: [UC] gay marriage

2004-02-20 Thread Paul Grossman
Thought people may get a kick out of this. Kinda fits in with the topic of conversation... http://www.sfgate.com/columnists/fiore/ -Paul _ Paul Grossman IT Support Specialist School of Medicine Information Services University of Pennsylvania 423 Guardian Drive/

[UC] Re: EPA Hearing in Philadelphia

2004-02-20 Thread BGAndersen
The mercury hearing in Philadelphia will be on Wednesday, February 25th. Apologies for any confusion. In a message dated 2/19/2004 1:34:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, BGAndersen writes: Subj: Opportunity for Philadelphia-area members Date: 2/19/2004 1:05:11 PM Eastern Standard Time

[UC] Environment2004

2004-02-20 Thread BGAndersen
Hi, I was asked to share this with the listserves that I post to. BGA In a message dated 2/20/2004 2:09:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Environment2004 http://bm23.com/x/trackclick.php?i=1906741k=OWfIm=16223url=http://environment2004.org E'04 Bulletin - February

RE: [UC] gay marriage

2004-02-20 Thread Mark Krull
Me too -Original Message- From: Jonathan Cass [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Feb 20, 2004 2:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [UC] gay marriage I'm starting to miss the mean dog not on a leash discussions. Jonathan A. Cass Silverman, Bernheim Vogel Two Penn Center Plaza, Suite 910

Re: [UC] Re: EPA Hearing in Philadelphia

2004-02-20 Thread Brian Siano
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The mercury hearing in Philadelphia will be on Wednesday, February 25th. Apologies for any confusion. The following article is especially illuminating re the EPA under the Bush regime: http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20040308s=kennedy The Junk Science of George

[UC] FW: FAT TUESDAY

2004-02-20 Thread LowryV
This is a tradional pancake supper with excellent food. Come enjoy a break from the tedium of winter! Vanessa Albert Lowry Greenberg Traurig, LLP Two Commerce Square 2001 Market Street Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 19103 215-988-7811 fax:215-988-7801/rightfax 215-717-5233 -Original

[UC] Re: Environment2004

2004-02-20 Thread BGAndersen
I'm not sure of which forum you're speaking of ... but I see nothing wrong with sending out this kind of information. In a message dated 2/20/04 8:13:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It is one thing to send around information about a specific meeting or a topic of specific relevance to the

Re: [UC] gay marriage

2004-02-20 Thread L a s e r B e a m
Samuel Nicolary wrote: To say that the bible is not the basis of our legal system is a bit naive. I think it played a big role in the lives and morality of all the lawmakers that have contributed to it. I don't think I need to elaborate on that one. I guess my point is that because laws

[UC] I wonder why?

2004-02-20 Thread William H. Magill
I wonder why the media hasn't been making a big deal about the fact that John Kerry is a member of that secret society that controls the world -- the Yale Skull and Bones? Yes, he was elected a member in 1966, two years before George Bush. T.T.F.N. William H. Magill [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL

RE: [UC] I wonder why?

2004-02-20 Thread William Zardus
The real power in that group is controlled by aliens. The humans are only being let in to give the society an identifiable human personna. They are being controlled by the Vulcans and subterrainian martians. I have a lot of information about this but you have to tell me the secret password