Re: Serial Liar sends misleading allegation [was: [UC] BID and the Public Record]

2007-07-11 Thread FX Winkler
Most of this list is comprised of serial liars. By repeating their lies they hope to convince people that what they say is true. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/10/07 12:03:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: speaking of apples and oranges, did the article say anything about how t

Re: Serial Liar sends misleading allegation [was: [UC] BID and the Public Record]

2007-07-11 Thread Dan Myers
Ray, Just tell Melani the pointit's probably moot and not that important if you keep harassing her instead. Dan Myers On 7/11/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In a message dated 7/11/07 12:03:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Melani Lamond wrote: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writ

RE: [UC] BID and the Public Record

2007-07-11 Thread Mike V.
ginal Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 8:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: univcity@list.purple.com Subject: Re: [UC] BID and the Public Record Guy, Please don't allow this type of stuff to be in

Re: Serial Liar sends misleading allegation [was: [UC] BID and the Public Record]

2007-07-11 Thread MLamond
In a message dated 7/11/07 12:03:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Melani Lamond wrote: > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >>> HAHA thanks melani! now we see what our neighborhood's > >>> proposed bid looks like, compared to mt. airy's bid. you > >>> couldn't have made my point any more nicely! > >

RE: Serial Liar sends misleading allegation [was: [UC] BID and the Public Record]

2007-07-11 Thread Kyle Cassidy
This whole thing sounded a little weird, so I didn't bother to respond -- you said that Penn's for-profits are being assessed by the NID, but that Mt. Aiery's university's for-profits aren't, and this some how makes UCD's NID bad, ... I don't get that, and I doubt I'm going to. I certainly get that

Re: Serial Liar sends misleading allegation [was: [UC] BID and the Public Record]

2007-07-11 Thread UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN
Melani Lamond wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: HAHA thanks melani! now we see what our neighborhood's proposed bid looks like, compared to mt. airy's bid. you couldn't have made my point any more nicely! And your point was? When caught providing false information, resort to fake laughter

Re: [UC] BID and the Public Record

2007-07-11 Thread B Andersen
Was there any citable empirical evidence in that post or was it all opinion? On 7/10/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In a message dated 7/10/2007 1:44:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm still on the fence on this (as many of us might be) The fence

Re: [UC] BID and the Public Record

2007-07-11 Thread Wilma de Soto
Well said! On 7/10/07 11:14 PM, "John Ellingsworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think the response to Lomb21 highlights one of the reasons why: > > a) people lurk on this list and don't post; > b) posters prefer to keep their names away from the dialogue; > c) sometimes knowing your neighbor

Re: [UC] BID and the Public Record

2007-07-11 Thread Glenn
--- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: univcity@list.purple.com Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 4:46 AM Subject: Re: [UC] BID and the Public Record Mr West I apologize for not signing my last post to you. My name is Guy Laren. I think that I di

Re: [UC] BID and the Public Record

2007-07-11 Thread Lomb21
Mr West I apologize for not signing my last post to you. My name is Guy Laren. I think that I did not intend to fool anyone and that not-signing was simply an oversight. I've made the mistake before and I'll try not to make it again. However, I was disappointed that the primary focus of

Re: [UC] BID and the Public Record

2007-07-10 Thread John Ellingsworth
I think the response to Lomb21 highlights one of the reasons why: a) people lurk on this list and don't post; b) posters prefer to keep their names away from the dialogue; c) sometimes knowing your neighbor isn't really all that great All too often, one risks ridicule by the self-righteous and t

Re: [UC] BID and the Public Record

2007-07-10 Thread Anthony West
Lomb21, Do you have an ordinary name? If so, could you please include it in your neighborhood posts from now on? You keep talking about "the NID/BID" in a way that leads me to suspect you are another one of these notoriously isolated, parochial University City persons who don't acknowledge th

Re: [UC] BID and the Public Record

2007-07-10 Thread Lomb21
Tony, I respect most of the posts that you contribute to this Listserv. However, I must say that when I read your comments regarding the NID/BID that you sound to me like the Husband in the marriage therapy session who's answer to each of his wife's issues is "But I bought you a diamond r

Re: [UC] BID and the Public Record

2007-07-10 Thread Anthony West
heir communities. There is no mold they must be forced into, for statutory or economic reasons. -- Tony West KAREN ALLEN wrote: From: Anthony West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [UC] BID and the Public Record Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 02:14:14 -0400 Well ... I have to say it happe

Re: Serial Liar sends misleading allegation [was: [UC] BID and the Public Record]

2007-07-10 Thread MLamond
In a message dated 7/10/07 5:07:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > HAHA thanks melani! now we see what our neighborhood's > proposed bid looks like, compared to mt. airy's bid. you > couldn't have made my point any more nicely! > > > And your point was? When caught providing false information

Re: Serial Liar sends misleading allegation [was: [UC] BID and the Public Record]

2007-07-10 Thread UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: / In a message dated 7/10/07 12:03:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: / /speaking of apples and oranges, did the article say anything about how the mt. airy bid was the brainchild of a large nearby university? or about how the mt. airy bid boundaries included *a large near

Serial Liar sends misleading allegation [was: [UC] BID and the Public Record]

2007-07-10 Thread MLamond
In a message dated 7/10/07 12:03:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > speaking of apples and oranges, did the article say anything > about how the mt. airy bid was the brainchild of a large > nearby university? or about how the mt. airy bid boundaries > included a large nearby university which would

Re: [UC] BID and the Public Record

2007-07-10 Thread KAREN ALLEN
re getting the benefits aren't paying a dime. Dan Myers From: Anthony West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [UC] BID and the Public Record Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 02:14:14 -0400 Well ... I have to say it happens all the time, that people receive government benefits without payi

Re: [UC] BID and the Public Record

2007-07-10 Thread UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN
Doc Baldy wrote: What I found remarkable was this: "the Mt. Airy BID won its election without a single dissenting vote" I can't imagine anything ever happening in our hood with complete consensus... Al Krigman wrote: So, by all indications, this is a true "business improvement district"

Re: [UC] BID and the Public Record

2007-07-10 Thread Krfapt
In a message dated 7/10/2007 1:44:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm still on the fence on this (as many of us might be) The fence has fallen down. The NID as advanced by UCD, Wendell's claim in his UCReview "interview" notwithstanding, is a dead issue. There

Re: [UC] BID and the Public Record

2007-07-09 Thread Anthony West
Well ... I have to say it happens all the time, that people receive government benefits without paying equally into the system. Just about every tax you can name exempts some classes of citizen from paying it. They still get the benefits, if benefits there are. This is true on a larger scale o

Re: [UC] BID and the Public Record

2007-07-09 Thread Dan Myers
I'm still on the fence on this (as many of us might be) And even though the BID (or NID or DID) has limited benefits. Perhaps when assessed, the benefits would increase? And whose to say if imposing the "descending mantle" might make people want 5 unit dwellings to improve the area? Wouldn't that

Re: [UC] BID and the Public Record

2007-07-08 Thread Anthony West
Yes, Al. > 1) Some interesting things not quoted above -- mostly in terms of participation and involvement of the stakeholders, who seem to comprise a true "Business > Improvement District" since the affected blocks of Germantown Ave is an unambiguous business strip where stakeholders engaged

Re: [UC] BID and the Public Record

2007-07-05 Thread Doc Baldy
From the article: "every one of the 200 property owners who are affected by it was mailed a ballot." Thus I think your number 4 was correct. There were apparently 200 business locations. What I found remarkable was this: "the Mt. Airy BID won its election without a single dissenting vote"

Re: [UC] BID and the Public Record

2007-07-05 Thread Krfapt
In a message dated 7/5/2007 2:57:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: story about the Mt Airy BID Tony's report, says -- in part: Compared to other BIDs, it is small. It consists of both sides of Germantown Avenue from the 6300 block to the 7600 block. Its budget is $

[UC] BID and the Public Record

2007-07-05 Thread Glenn
Want to catch an impartial story about the Mt Airy BID. Read Tony West's fearless reporting. Anyone that would oppose a BID would be a crazy community wrecker. I read it in the paper: http://www.phillyrecord.com/ First the Daily News excellent report and now West is comparing a BID to the