Well, among the facts that have been revealed are --
That the state store's current building has a chronically broken furnace;
That the state store's current building is in a less than optimal location
for retail expansion;
That the state store's current building is not large enough to expand
The other day I went into the Market St. State Store and found my clerk
working with gloves on, because the building was so cold.
He was stoic ... he had to get his paycheck to eat, after all, and he
daren't jeopardize that by complaining to a member of the public. But it
seemed deeply wrong t
Anthony West wrote:
Well, among the facts that have been revealed are --
That the state store's current building has a chronically broken furnace;
That the state store's current building is in a less than optimal
location for retail expansion;
That the state store's current building is not
>speculation.
If you're going to complain people are speculating, stop asking people who
don't know. Nobody on this list can do ANYTHING BUT speculate about this.
Nobody on this list owns the liquor store and nobody on this list is the
regional manager for Rite Aid.
Call the PLCB and ask th
Not speculation in the slightest. Plain fact.
The furnace is clearly not working. I ran up to the state store earlier this
evening and the building was closed -- again. This building is not working
for this store. If Ray, who is a residential renter, were still living in an
unheated building a
Jeez, can you stop being a lawyer for a minute? What does race have
to do with anything other than as an excuse for baiting? Is a cold
work site somehow worse for people of color? If not, why even bring
it up?
That remark was really nauseating. Ick.
Besides, Ray never said he was against t
Idiocy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 12:23 AM
To: University City List
Subject: Re: [UC] Re: Why does the state store want to move
Anthony West wrote:
> Well, among the facts that h
does the state store want to move
Jeez, can you stop being a lawyer for a minute? What does race have
to do with anything other than as an excuse for baiting? Is a cold
work site somehow worse for people of color? If not, why even bring
it up?
You are receiving this because you are
there. But
don't ask us to swallow that the Market St. liquor store is a cherished
neighborhood treasure. It isn't. It's just a beat-up, bad old store.
-- Tony West
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> on Walnut St. if you must, pal; you have legitimate standing there. But
> don't ask us to swallow that the Market St. liquor store is a cherished
> neighborhood treasure. It isn't. It's just a beat-up, bad old store.
>
> -- Tony West
>
> - Original
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From: "Frank" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
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Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 1:30 AM
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> Jeez, can you stop being a lawyer
Tony may be a lot of things, like a linguist, but he's not a lawyer.
sk
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From: Frank<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: UnivCity@list.purple.com<mailto:UnivCity@list.purple.com>
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 1:30 AM
Subject: Re: [UC] Re: Why doe
: Friday, March 16, 2007 1:31 AM
To: UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject: Re: [UC] Re: Why does the state store want to move
Jeez, can you stop being a lawyer for a minute? What does race have
to do with anything other than as an excuse for baiting? Is a cold
work site somehow worse for people of color? If
Kyle Cassidy wrote:
If you're going to complain people are speculating, stop
asking people who don't know. Nobody on this list can do
ANYTHING BUT speculate about this. Nobody on this list
owns the liquor store and nobody on this list is the
regional manager for Rite Aid.
Call the PLCB and ask
hat amounts to your lack of clarity.
Sande Knight
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From: UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: University City List<mailto:UnivCity@list.purple.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: [UC] Re: Why does the state store want
I think this makes sense, and I think it's a reasonable question.
I think you're confusing opinions and choices. There are many opinions, but few
choices. If Santa Clause says to the elves "Do you want Fuwah or Saads for
lunch?" the elves may have many opinions as to what they want for lunch, bu
In a message dated 3/17/07 1:19:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> .the question is being framed as a public choice between A or
> B. I'm asking how are A and B public options? are they
> options of our making? our only options? our best options?
>
>
Members of this list so often feel th
By regulation, the decision is the Zoning Board's.
In practice, the Zoning Board is influenced by
1. Lobbyists
Including Landlord and Tenant and
Folks who might want to torpedo landlord or tenant
2. Immediate Neighbors
3. Broader community
In a message dated 3/17/2007 5:22:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The Mosque, Ethnic groceries and Restaurant School are the closest
neighbors and should be listened to, with respect.
Maybe one of the attorneys on this list can tell us whether people more than
so
Kyle Cassidy wrote:
There are many opinions, but few choices.
...
That's the only choice, zoning variance or no zoning variance.
yes, that's how I see it: we get to have opinions on choices
we don't shape.
Liz Campion wrote:
Luckily, drastic changes, such as Zoning Changes, require player
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Members of this list so often feel that they have a "right" to participate in
decision making, no matter what the topic or who are the parties involved.
Ray is assuming that "right" in his questions above, asking about "our"
options.
Folks, most of what goes on betw
rom: UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Univcity<mailto:Univcity@list.purple.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 12:06 AM
Subject: Re: [UC] Re: Why does the state store want to move
Kyle Cassidy wrote:
> There are many opinions, but few choices.
> ...
In a message dated 3/20/2007 11:09:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
this resembles the dock street story -- one choice (to
rezone or not), between 2 sides (a church and a business).
meanwhile other opinions (of vendors or customers), other
choices (besides rezonin
UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN wrote:
in any event, we shall see how the press continues this story. the
zoning board hearing which had been scheduled for 28 feb is now march 21
(tomorrow).
from the front page of today's dp. http://tinyurl.com/27lfnx
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TEMPERS FLARE AT LIQUOR STORE ZONING
UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN wrote:
in any event, we shall see how the press continues this story. the
zoning board hearing which had been scheduled for 28 feb is now march
21 (tomorrow).
from the front page of today's dp. http://tinyurl.com/27lfnx
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update:
from tuesday's dp, a long front
UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN wrote:
in any event, we shall see how the press continues this story. the
zoning board hearing which had been scheduled for 28 feb is now march
21 (tomorrow).
from the front page of today's dp. http://tinyurl.com/27lfnx
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update:
from tuesday's dp, a long fron
In a message dated 4/1/2007 2:50:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Martin Cabry, director of zoning and community for
Blackwell, said the councilwoman has come out in support of
the move after receiving positive feedback from most of the
residents in the area.
Th
un, 1 Apr 2007 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: [UC] Re: Why does the state store want to move
In a message dated 4/1/2007 2:50:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL
PROTECTED] writes: Martin Cabry, director of zoning and community for
Blackwell, said the councilwoman has come out in support of
the
To be fair, it was evidently Madeleine Kronovet that wrote this, not
Ray Rourke.
I suspect that Marty Cabry said, or meant to say, that a majority of
those community residents who provided feedback to the councilwoman,
or to her office, were in favor of the new state store location.
Ellio
In a message dated 4/1/2007 3:35:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I suspect that Marty Cabry said, or meant to say, that a majority of those
community residents who provided feedback to the councilwoman, or to her
office, were in favor of the new state store location
Elliot M. Stern wrote:
To be fair, it was evidently Madeleine Kronovet that
wrote this, not Ray Rourke.
yes, this is the same madeleine kronovet who wrote the
article about the new liquor store on baltimore avenue:
http://tinyurl.com/29kzbc
"This will be a nice wine and spirits store that
UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN wrote:
in any event, we shall see how the press continues this story. the
zoning board hearing which had been scheduled for 28 feb is now
march 21 (tomorrow).
from the front page of today's dp. http://tinyurl.com/27lfnx
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update:
from tuesday's dp, a long fro
>I won't go into a discussion about the politically enfranchised and
>disenfranchised who are heard from and not heard from.
This, of course, from a guy who ends many of his posts with a tag line
suggesting people click on a link to tell jannie that they dislike UCD:
>Al Krigman
>Register yo
In a message dated 4/1/2007 3:35:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I suspect that ... said, or meant to say, that a majority of those community
residents who provided feedback to the councilwoman, or to her office, were
in favor of the new state store location.
W
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