Glenn moyer wrote:
But one tax scheme that seems like a no-brainer to consider now, even though to
Nutter, it is inviolate and can't be mentioned or considered- The ponzi scheme
called the ten year tax abatement.
interesting article about the tax abatement in this week's
inquirer:
http://
In a message dated 1/6/09 6:20:20 PM, anthony_w...@earthlink.net writes:
> Here in the Free Library is a fistful of millions at hand. It's a
> fistful that, intuitively, might be connected to larger, well-heeled
> private potential partners. Nutter made it very clear from the
> beginning, even
Equitable real-estate valuation, no matter how praiseworthy, can't
possibly be installed in time to balance the remainder of the 2008-09
City budget. If City Council slammed the pedal tomorrow, there's a faint
possibility it could be enacted in time for the 2009-10 budget that will
kick in next
Dear List:
I was going to write a long reasoned response to to this below, but instead,
I'll give it the answer it deserves:
"Whaddaya mean the list is your playground and you get to make the rules as to
who can play and what they can say??? I can play on it too!!! Whaddaya mean
that you c
Seems to me that, while a number of good points have been made
already, a few things have been omitted or glossed over...
1) A revenue-neutral approach is a possibility. A city-wide
reappraisal would be combined with a change to the millage rate for
real-estate tax, so that the total income
implemented.
Paul
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From: KAREN ALLEN
To: UnivCity Listserv
Sent: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 5:38 pm
Subject: RE: [UC] Taxation and the libraries
The danger to longterm homeowners comes from any law that bases real estate
taxes on sale price or "
In a message dated 1/5/09 5:39:54 PM, kallena...@msn.com writes:
> If the constant in my examples above were livable space and lot size,
> "equalization between neighborhoods" could occur. Homeowners in Center City
> would pay substantially less than the homeowners in Northwest
> Philadelp
The danger to longterm homeowners comes from any law that bases real estate
taxes on sale price or "value", because as Melani is surely aware, a lot of
factors determines "value". The "equalization between neighborhoods" that
Melani mentioned cannot be done if the standard being used is purchas
estroy the libraries?
Glenn
You can fool some people some time, but you can't fool all the people all the time, Bob Marley
-Original Message- From: mlam...@aol.com Sent: Jan 5, 2009 10:55 AM To: glen...@earthlink.net, univcity@list.purple.com Subject: Re: [UC] Taxation and the librarie
In a message dated 1/5/09 3:22:36 PM, briansi...@gmail.com writes:
> But since the point is to soften the impact of the new tax rates on
> homeowners, how about this. When the new tax rates are established,
> we'll know what the Old and New taxes would be for any given property,
> right? If th
mlam...@aol.com wrote:
Your ideas for different systems of taxation are interesting, Brian &
Karen, but not currently legal; PA law says that these taxes must be
_equal_. The problem is that they are NOT equal right now; the city
is breaking the law. The City is required by law to assess ever
In a message dated 1/5/09 12:18:43 AM, briansi...@gmail.com writes:
how about this for a solution?for _primary residences_, people's
_homes_... apply the new tax standard only to properties purchased after the
date
the tax standards take effect.
This way, current homeowners won't have
"[I}f the City were collecting the same amount from everybody whose house has
the same value...",
If the city were to collect the same amount from everybody whose house has the
same value, the City would have legions of people who would be forced to move
because they could no longer afford to
Glenn,
I totally agree that straightening out the ridiculous tax assessment
situation will not happen in time to help the libraries.
I don't understand why Nutter doesn't back down and say "the people have
spoken; we'll have to find that $8 million somewhere else and keep the
libraries
ope
the mayor.
"The people, united, will never be defeated!"
Your comrade,
Glenn
-Original Message- From: mlam...@aol.com Sent: Jan 5, 2009 12:05 AM To: pf...@ccat.sas.upenn.edu, univcity@list.purple.com Subject: Re: [UC] Taxation and the libraries In a message dated 1/3/09 7:20:3
In a message dated 1/3/09 7:20:36 PM:
> ...While the fact that the city needs additional revenue is obvious, any
> changes to the property tax structure have to be made with careful
> deliberation as to the consequences of dramatic increases...
>
Agreed, totally - and remember, I also wrote:
.
want to ignore the good qualities that sometimes pop out from the real Melani inside.
Thanks again for discussing the actual taxation idea.
Glenn
-Original Message- From: KAREN ALLEN Sent: Jan 3, 2009 7:19 PM To: UnivCity Listserv Subject: RE: [UC] Taxation and the libraries
Glenn
on money
the taxpayer actually has.No one wants to be forced to sell their house because
they can't afford to live in it anymore.
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 18:09:01 -0500From: glen...@earthlink.netto:
mlam...@aol.com; univc...@list.purple.comsubject: Re: [UC] Taxation and the
libraries
It&#
Original Message- From: mlam...@aol.com Sent: Jan 3, 2009 1:57 PM To: UnivCity@list.purple.com, pf...@ccat.sas.upenn.edu Subject: [UC] Taxation and the libraries The fate of the 11 libraries is now before City Council. Mayor Nutter had to make some tough decisions to balance the City's budget
The fate of the 11 libraries is now before City Council. Mayor Nutter had
to make some tough decisions to balance the City's budget, and the library
closing choice seems to have been a particularly poor one. But, Mayor Nutter
is
not the villain here. Our city's tax structure is a more lik
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