you're definitely correct about the tree pits being too small.
sk
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From: S. Sharrieff Alimailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: UnivCity@list.purple.commailto:UnivCity@list.purple.com
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 8:42 PM
Subject: [UC] Trees on 4500 Walnut Street
ho hum
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From: UNIVERSITY*CITOYENmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Univcitymailto:Univcity@list.purple.com
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: [UC] Trees on 4500 Walnut Street
S. Sharrieff Ali wrote:
Now we have something valuable
Subject: Re: [UC] Trees on 4500 Walnut Street
I'm not one for litigation so much, but there needs to be some recourse here.
If there is writing or photos or even witnesses who saw the contractors
sawing roots, they need to be brought to task and something needs to be made
right
]
To: UnivCity@list.purple.commailto:UnivCity@list.purple.com
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 7:27 PM
Subject: RE: [UC] Trees on 4500 Walnut Street
Someone private-mailed me and accused me of dime-dropping on the whoever
with LI and asked me to post a clarification.
I don't plan to dime
@list.purple.com
Subject: Re: [UC] Trees on 4500 Walnut Street
One day I was was walking along Baltimore Avenue in Clark Park when -- wham!
I turned around and saw a huge tree branch from an ageing London plane, as
thick as a human body, had crashed down on the sidewalk. A woman was
standing near
All this talk about trees makes me think
On Monday, April 23, 2007, at 12:14 AM, Elizabeth F Campion wrote:
Dear Craig,
Thanks for the info, but it might be important to know that the city
does not cede the right of walkway to the existence of or desire for
trees.
Most residential blocks
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To: UnivCity@list.purple.com
Sent: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 11:44 PM
Subject: Re: [UC] Trees on 4500 Walnut Street - Ordinance Guidelines - Don't
Snitch?
In a message dated 4/22/2007 7:29:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL
PROTECTED] writes: Someone private-mailed me and accused me
All this talk about trees makes me think of how unappreciated and taken
for granted that they are.
Cement up to the trunk, shallow root pits, chopping off roots to make
the sidewalk lay flat...Ugh! Or the trees on our block that were
butchered last fall because they were in the way of the
become you.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 11:44 PM
To: UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject: Re: [UC] Trees on 4500 Walnut Street - Ordinance Guidelines -
Don't Snitch?
In a message dated 4/22
and cars - then people will want to blame someone.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cindy Miller
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 8:36 AM
To: univcity@list.purple.com
Subject: Re: [UC] Trees
All this talk about trees makes me think of how
S. Sharrieff Ali wrote:
I had an incident a few years ago with a neighbor’s tree he
cemented around the base, the tree later fell and destroyed
my fence!
Anthony West wrote:
One day I was was walking along Baltimore Avenue in Clark Park when --
wham! I turned around and saw a huge tree
Today I spoke with : 1) Streets Department 2)
LI 3) Fairmount Park Commission
The following is what I
learned:
We are in Highway division 1 located at 48th and Parkside.
Replacing your sidewalk you will need a Streets Department Highway Division
Permit
and it is free of cost. You
From: S. Sharrieff Ali [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: S. Sharrieff Ali [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject: RE: [UC] Trees on 4500 Walnut Street
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 19:27:49 -0400
Someone private-mailed me and accused me of dime-dropping on the
whoever
with LI and asked me
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Univcity@list.purple.com
Subject: Re: [UC] Trees on 4500 Walnut Street
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 19:58:51 -0400
So WAS someone killed or was someone NOT killed? You might want to
clarify.
Husband and an unborn child sounds like someone was killed to me.
Phil
It's not the first time, there have been complaints on the list
previously about LI being called about trash violations and other times
people have complained that neighbors snitched on their off-leash dogs.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
From: Kyle Cassidy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [UC] Trees on 4500 Walnut Street
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 14:41:53 -0400
It's not the first time, there have been complaints on the list
previously about LI being called about trash violations and other times
people have complained
From: Kyle Cassidy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [UC] Trees on 4500 Walnut Street
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 14:41:53 -0400
It's not the first time, there have been complaints on the list
previously about LI being called about trash violations and other times
people have complained
Sharrieff, this was all very helpful information. Thank you!
Melani Lamond
Melani Lamond, Associate Broker
Urban Bye, Realtor
3529 Lancaster Ave.
Philadelphia, PA 19104
cell phone 215-356-7266
office phone 215-222-4800, ext. 113
office fax 215-222-1101
I think it far more likely that the guys that did the sidewalk simply
chopped through all of the tree roots on that side of the tree, thus
destabilizing them and making them helpless to resist the high winds of the
storm. This theory is supported by the fact that when the trees fell, the
roots
:48 PM
To: UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject: Re: [UC] Trees on 4500 Walnut Street
Wasn't the new sidewalk cement done in the last month?
That would hardly seem an adequate amount of time.
Regards,
John Ellingsworth
S. Sharrieff Ali wrote:
So.I have a theory about what happened to the trees
Of Lewis Mellman
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 11:03 AM
To: UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject: Re: [UC] Trees on 4500 Walnut Street
I heard the same explanation that Mike has for this from one of my
local tree hugging friends.
Undersized tree pits/openings in pavement are a real problem for many
To: John Ellingsworth
Cc: UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject: Re: [UC] Trees on 4500 Walnut Street
I think it far more likely that the guys that did the sidewalk simply
chopped through all of the tree roots on that side of the tree, thus
destabilizing them and making them helpless to resist
Mike VanHelder wrote:
I think it far more likely that the guys that did the sidewalk simply
chopped through all of the tree roots on that side of the tree, thus
destabilizing them and making them helpless to resist the high winds of the
storm. This theory is supported by the fact that when the
I heard the same explanation that Mike has for this from one of my
local tree hugging friends.
Undersized tree pits/openings in pavement are a real problem for many street
trees because the roots need a border of permeable surface around the trunk
to absorb rain water.
Drought periods
S. Sharrieff Ali wrote:
Now we have something valuable for the local zoning committees to look
at.
or maybe something valuable for uc green to look into
(pruning and thinning).
..
UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN
[aka laserbeam®]
[aka ray]
SERIAL LIAR. CALL FOR RATES.
Several Stonely Court residents reported on the West Philly livejournal group
that when the sidewalk was replaced contractors sawed through the roots that
were buckling the pavement and removed them so that the new sidewalk would lay
flat. One of them said that she went outside and spoke to the
I'm not one for litigation so much, but there needs to be some recourse here.
If there is writing or photos or even witnesses who saw the contractors
sawing roots, they need to be brought to task and something needs to be made
right. Those trees stood for decades without falling. 2 months of
. Sharrieff Ali
Cc: 'Mike VanHelder'; 'John Ellingsworth'; UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject: Re: [UC] Trees on 4500 Walnut Street
What a shame; the block really looks bare ... and cementy.
Regards,
Woops! Another crime of omission.
S
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike VanHelder
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 6:11 AM
To: John Ellingsworth
Cc: UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject: Re: [UC] Trees on 4500 Walnut Street
I think it far
else knows and post sooner.
S
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Philip Forrest
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 12:51 PM
To: UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN
Cc: Univcity
Subject: Re: [UC] Trees on 4500 Walnut Street
I'm not one for litigation so much
Great opportunity for UC-Green.
S
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Ellingsworth
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 12:12 PM
To: S. Sharrieff Ali
Cc: 'Mike VanHelder'; 'John Ellingsworth'; UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject: Re: [UC] Trees
Someone private-mailed me and accused me of dime-dropping on the
whoever
with LI and asked me to post a clarification.
I don't plan to dime-drop on anyone, not my place. I plan to check
with
LI to see what the regulations are, what forms are used.
I keep seeing sidewalks with cement all
Also, I happen to know of a woman who lost her husband and unborn child due
to a tree falling on the car her family was riding in, she was seriously
injured but lived. Not a happy picture. It was just lucky the trees didn't
kill anyone.
So WAS someone killed or was someone NOT killed? You
7:27 PM
Subject: RE: [UC] Trees on 4500 Walnut Street
Someone private-mailed me and accused me of “dime-dropping” on the
“whoever” with LI and asked me to post a clarification. I don’t plan to
“dime-drop” on anyone, not my place. I plan to check with LI to see what the
regulations
, baby carriages, etc?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: UnivCity@list.purple.com
Sent: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 7:27 PM
Subject: RE: [UC] Trees on 4500 Walnut Street
Someone private-mailed me and accused me of “dime-dropping” on the
“whoever” with LI and asked me to post
with LI about it SA.
-Lew
From: Philip Forrest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Philip Forrest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: S. Sharrieff Ali [EMAIL PROTECTED],Univcity
Univcity@list.purple.com
Subject: Re: [UC] Trees on 4500 Walnut Street
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 19:58:51 -0400
Also, I happen to know
fell they would have sustained injuries and may
have been killed.
S
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lewis Mellman
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 8:25 PM
To: Univcity@list.purple.com
Subject: Re: [UC] Trees on 4500 Walnut Street
One day I was was walking along Baltimore Avenue in Clark Park when -- wham!
I turned around and saw a huge tree branch from an ageing London plane, as
thick as a human body, had crashed down on the sidewalk. A woman was
standing near me, staring at the branch in a daze. About six seconds
In a message dated 4/22/2007 7:29:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Someone private-mailed me and accused me of “dime-dropping” on the “whoever
”
with LI and asked me to post a clarification.
Are you stating a participant on this listserv tried to intimidate you
Dear Craig,
Thanks for the info, but it might be important to know that the city does
not cede the right of walkway to the existence of or desire for trees.
Most residential blocks in the city require a paved walkway that is 5'
wide.
Many commercial blocks require more width. The largest
So.I have a theory about what happened to the trees on the 4500 block
of Walnut Street which fell during the storm last week.
If I am not mistaken, the tree-pits where not adequate for the trees to
receive
water after the new sidewalk cement job was completed. I have seen it
happen
in the past,
Wasn't the new sidewalk cement done in the last month?
That would hardly seem an adequate amount of time.
Regards,
John Ellingsworth
S. Sharrieff Ali wrote:
So.I have a theory about what happened to the trees on the 4500 block
of Walnut Street which fell during the storm last week.
If I am
Dear Neighbors,
Two HUGE trees are down on the 4500 block of Walnut.
The road is blocked.
Cars are crushed on both sides of the street and the sidewalks are heaved
on the South side of Walnut.
Sidewalks and roadways are very slippery.
Slush is clinging to vertical sign surfaces, so some
Of Elizabeth F Campion
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 8:04 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject: [UC] Trees Down, Roads slick, signs obscure : Be safe!
Dear Neighbors,
Two HUGE trees are down on the 4500 block of Walnut.
The road is blocked.
Cars are crushed on both sides
and this one:
http://www.asc.upenn.edu/usr/cassidy/lj/2007/trees-come-down.jpg
It¹s a shame those 2 beautiful trees went down. :-(
Margie
and this one:
http://www.asc.upenn.edu/usr/cassidy/lj/2007/trees-come-down.jpg
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