[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 6/25/2007 3:57:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes (to Sali):
Currently, the folks on the Board are footing the majority of the
bill for clean and safe efforts in wide areas of University City.
Do you think they'll
Elizabeth F Campion wrote:
I think Councilwoman Jannie Blackwell made a mistake when she backed Knox.
IMHO she gets things right more often than she gets things wrong, and
she keeps my vote and admiration.
John Fenton may (or may not) have put work effort and UCD resources into
a political
I'm one of the biggest John Fenton supporters on this list -- but I
really don't see what option UCD had. There were:
1) Serious allegations about UCD and a political campaign that were
printed in the media
2) People _on this list_ so outraged by it that they were threatening to
call for a
Folks,
I think Brian is on to something here. The NID is a hard thing to
implement, because it supposed to be funded by a base annual income taken
from the citizens in is geography, ie the surcharge that the city government
would collect from us each year and give to the UCD. If the UCD
UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN wrote:
as always, we need to be careful in public discourse to avoid
resorting to ad hominem. the issue here is not about personalities or
personal likes/dislikes but about public organizations and the public
roles involved, about the public actions that were and were not
to tell the guy what to do.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mario Giorno
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 12:05 PM
To: univcity@list.purple.com
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Folks,
I think Brian is on to something here. The NID
In a message dated 6/26/2007 12:28:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I can't
remember who said it first (it might have been sharrieff) that
ultimately UCD is accountable to it's funders.
You're not getting the sense of the statement.
It was that UCD is accountable
It's been pointed out to me off list that Al might not have actually
asked people to consider joining a group complaint rather he provided
information for those interested in ... joining a group complaint in
reaction to UCD using its resources on behalf of a political campaign,
and my statement
issues. I suspect that
most of them would actually say UCD who?
Kc
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In a message dated 6/26
In a message dated 6/26/07 11:34:26 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
as always, we need to be careful in public discourse to
avoid resorting to ad hominem. the issue here is not about
personalities or personal likes/dislikes but about public
organizations and the public roles involved, about the
So what can we (we being people opposed to the cranks and greedy
landlords and other anti-BID forces) do?
- Mike V.
PM
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Subject: Re: [UC] UCD Related
In a message dated 6/26/2007 12:28:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I can't
remember who said it first (it might have been sharrieff) that
ultimately UCD is accountable to it's funders
The triggering messages contain too much 'spin', and ongoing, unsupported
attack.
Simplicity is most notable by its absence.
It is outrageous to define Al's motives.
Neighbors should be able to agree to disagree, without being assigned to
some clique-du-jour (either in out of favor).
For the
In a message dated 6/26/07 1:51:26 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So what can we (we being people opposed to the cranks and greedy
landlords and other anti-BID forces) do?
- Mike V.
I don't know, Mike, but I'd certainly be interested in suggestions.
Melani
Melani Lamond, Associate
In a message dated 6/26/07 1:55:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Simplicity is most notable by its absence.
Liz, when are your posts ever simple? I think the notable thing here is
that, as often as you and I disagree, neither of us feels that calling for
Lewis
Wendell's resignation is
Mike,
Let me know what one requirement, if you were a landowner, you would
want UCD or a NID/BID to follow above all others. What major requirement
would you make of your local NID/BID?
Mario
On 6/26/07, Mike V. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So what can we (we being people opposed to the
Putting more feet on the street and reducing neighborhood crime levels
would be my #1.
- Mike V.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mario Giorno
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 2:07 PM
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, June 26, 2007 2:07 PM
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*Subject:* Re: [UC] UCD Related - Whoa
Mike,
Let me know what one requirement, if you were a landowner, you would
want UCD or a NID/BID to follow above all others. What major requirement
would you make of your local NID/BID?
Mario
On 6/26
I long to own talent of the magnitudes exhibited by Ross, Ray, Frank,
Kyle and others.
I have to settle for sharing meals and reading (and sometimes buying)
examples of their art.
As someone who attended Catholic School for 12 years, I generally fault
my posts for being too simple.
I favor
I'm down with that.
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Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 2:16 PM
I second that emotion!
On 6/26/07, Mike V. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Putting more feet on the street and reducing
In a message dated 6/26/07 2:26:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Simply... do not confuse my support of Lewis with support for a NID.
No, I will not make that mistake; I agree that they are not at all the same.
What worries me is that folks call for Lewis' and the current UCD's
Mario Giorno wrote:
Folks,
I will reiterate my request at the end of my last post on this
thread. If there were on concession or stipulation above all others
that you would require from the UCD before we gave them NID status,
what would it be. If we want to actually create a NID, we
], univcity@list.purple.com
Subject: Re: [UC] UCD Related - Whoa
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 13:06:43 EDT
In a message dated 6/26/07 11:34:26 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
as always, we need to be careful in public discourse to
avoid resorting to ad hominem. the issue here is not about
personalities
speaking of D.L. Wormley, does anyone have her work email address? if
so, please email it to me - I have a couple of housing questions
relevant to her time at Penn.
(D.L. Wormley used to run things like this. Great idea.)
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Are you... are you serious? Is this for real?
- Mike V.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kirk Wattles
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 4:50 PM
To: UC List
Subject: Re: [UC] UCD Related
The principle that UCD is, ultimately, accountable
I must correct this proposition, which cannot be entirely true as it stands.
Anyone who shows up at a First Thursday meeting will meet representatives from
three dozen agencies and associations that provide all sorts of services to all
sorts of West Philadelphians. That's not a few local
Yes, I'm serious. I'm not saying that UCD *is* Hezbollah, but that if
you follow the logic of what some people are saying about who gets to
determine what UCD is and does, it could go that way -- and who could
say any different? Only by bringing in some of the other principles
can we have
god ... does this mean I too have been coopted?
-- Tony West
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From: Earthlink
To: UnivCity@list.purple.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: [UC] UCD Related
I must correct this proposition, which cannot be entirely true as it stands
The principle that UCD is, ultimately, accountable (only) to its
funders is fine until you think about it for a moment.
That's the same rationale as for a private militia, like in Lebanon.
So where do we draw the line between UCD and Hezbollah?
Obviously (!) there are differences, but these
In a message dated 6/26/2007 5:26:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Yes, I'm serious. I'm not saying that UCD *is* Hezbollah, but that if
you follow the logic of what some people are saying about who gets to
determine what UCD is and does, it could go that way --
Message -
*From:* Earthlink [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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*Sent:* Tuesday, June 26, 2007 4:59 PM
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I must correct this proposition, which cannot be entirely true as it
stands.
Anyone who shows up at a First Thursday meeting will meet
In a message dated 6/26/2007 5:53:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You crack me up! That's it. your nickname from now on is Earthlink. Whenever
I mention you on the list, it will by this new monicker.
Disconnect his Link; let's see where he goes.
I'm thinking we've found a new variation of Godwin's Law?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Mike V.
Sent: Tue 6/26/2007 4:59 PM
To: 'Kirk Wattles'; 'UC List'
Subject: RE: [UC] UCD Related
Are you... are you serious? Is this for real?
- Mike V
Dear S,
I am an interested person wanting to know the facts. (and some opinion) I am
also wandering about the people who distrust UCD as a whole will change
their minds with a new director. I highly imagine that it won't change their
minds, unless the new director is able to change their
Luckily for us, UCD's spending their own money. Unlike whoever it was
who just ripped up all the pavement on my block, who are spending OUR
money with, as far as I can tell, absolutely no neighborhood oversight,
no explanations, no town meetings, at all. The only reason we know the
names of the
In a message dated 6/25/07 3:26:33 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
.I called for change within the mission, board, and directorship of
UCD...
Mission, Board and Director, will need to change in order
for the UCD to be effective in a way which will benefit the broader
In a message dated 6/25/2007 3:57:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes (to Sali):
Currently, the folks on the Board are footing the majority of the bill for
clean and safe efforts in wide areas of University City. Do you think they'll
keep doing that
Wouldn't it
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In a message dated 6/25/07 3:26:33 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
.I called for change
have tried the last two from out of town with poor results.
S
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I think Councilwoman Jannie Blackwell made a mistake when she backed
Knox.
IMHO she gets things right more often than she gets things wrong, and she
keeps my vote and admiration.
John Fenton may (or may not) have put work effort and UCD resources into
a political rally.
IMHO there should have
In a message dated 6/23/07 11:55:25 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[gracefully, tactfully, announcing his new career plans at
dock street's grand opening later this summer, turning the
whole thing into a celebratory and face-saving leave-taking
which gives the long-silent daily news, dp,
Sharreiff Ali wrote:
so bare with me
Frank Carroll wrote:
OK, I'm naked. Now what?
wendell lewis resigns?
[gracefully, tactfully, announcing his new career plans at
dock street's grand opening later this summer, turning the
whole thing into a celebratory and face-saving leave-taking
In a message dated 6/23/2007 12:22:35 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ray, will you or someone else PLEASE explain to me EXACTLY what Lewis
Wendell - his name is not Wendell Lewis - did, which would make it appropriate
for
him to resign? Not what happened, but what
Melani...I would respond but I really don't believe you are as clueless
as you pretend to be.
The real interested parties can ask their own questions in due time.
S
In a message dated 6/23/07 11:55:25 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[gracefully, tactfully, announcing his new career plans
In a message dated 6/23/07 8:36:27 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Melani...I would respond but I really don't believe you are as clueless
as you pretend to be.
The real interested parties can ask their own questions in due time.
S
Yes, I am clueless...but even if I weren't, you must
Greetings:
I have received a tremendous amount of off-list
e-mail regarding the meetings, John Fenton, and UCD.
I don't mind, however I have been busy this week and
can't keep up with the responses, so bare with me if
I haven't responded yet.
Some of the mail has been troubling, accusations
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