Re: Documentation [was: Re: v8 DP3]

2015-08-29 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 2015-08-28 10:28, Richmond wrote: https://help.github.com/articles/which-remote-url-should-i-use/#cloning-with-https-recommended When you view a repository while signed in to your account First of all, where do I find the GIT interface on my computer so that I can log into it, or, for the

Re: Script Editor future (was Open Source Kickstarter Report Card)

2015-08-29 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 2015-08-29 04:43, Kay C Lan wrote: Oh, and just a slight tangent. I've seen it mentioned before but it hadn't really registered until I was playing with LC8 yesterday, but the new 'Script only Stack' would seem to be the perfect beast to offer up as a guinea pig for Text Editor

Re: Documentation [was: Re: v8 DP3]

2015-08-29 Thread Richmond
On 08/29/2015 10:04 AM, Peter TB Brett wrote: On 2015-08-28 10:28, Richmond wrote: https://help.github.com/articles/which-remote-url-should-i-use/#cloning-with-https-recommended When you view a repository while signed in to your account First of all, where do I find the GIT interface on

Re: Script Editor future (was Open Source Kickstarter Report Card)

2015-08-29 Thread Peter Bogdanoff
That URL is not working. Probably should be: http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=66t=25065p=130099hilit=scriptOnly#p130099 Peter On Aug 29, 2015, at 12:53 AM, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com wrote: scriptOnly ___

A book for babies?

2015-08-29 Thread Richmond
If you are*NOT* interested in teaching *small children* /LiveCode/ stop reading now. --- Having taught a reasonably successful, relatively intensive course to *Primary level**

Re: Script Editor future (was Open Source Kickstarter Report Card)

2015-08-29 Thread Monte Goulding
Hi Peter Has anyone seen my post on the engine forum about a scriptOnly property for stacks: http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=66t=25065 Happy to contribute it Cheers Monte Sent from my iPhone On 29 Aug 2015, at 5:00 pm, Peter TB Brett peter.br...@livecode.com wrote: Your

[Bug] Red Dot Breakpoints Ignored - Recipe

2015-08-29 Thread Kay C Lan
In line with a recent post I made mention of the fact that I don't use Red Dot breakpoints as they are ignored too often. I know others have had similar complaints. But in the interest of seeing if improvements have been made I just had a go in LC 7.1 rc 1 on OS X 10.9.5 and made the following

Re: Script Editor future (was Open Source Kickstarter Report Card)

2015-08-29 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 2015-08-29 08:53, Monte Goulding wrote: Hi Peter Has anyone seen my post on the engine forum about a scriptOnly property for stacks: http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=66t=25065 Happy to contribute it This looks like the sort of thing that's best off being looked at by Mark

Re: A book for babies?

2015-08-29 Thread Earthednet-wp
Richmond, Your concerns are very valid, with LC still in the midst of lots of changes. Here are some immediate rambling thoughts, perhaps obvious, but for what they're worth I like the workbook format. Very appropriate. Ideally, it might be distributed as an ebook or app type book that can

Re: [Bug] Red Dot Breakpoints Ignored - Recipe

2015-08-29 Thread Richard Gaskin
Kay C Lan wrote: In line with a recent post I made mention of the fact that I don't use Red Dot breakpoints as they are ignored too often. I know others have had similar complaints. But in the interest of seeing if improvements have been made I just had a go in LC 7.1 rc 1 on OS X 10.9.5

Re: Script Editor future (was Open Source Kickstarter Report Card)

2015-08-29 Thread Peter Haworth
I'm still in the early days of using the sts plugin but I believe the restriction on not having the script editor window open at the same time is to avoid clashes if edits are made to the same script in both places. On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 9:15 AM Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote:

Re: [Bug] Red Dot Breakpoints Ignored - Recipe

2015-08-29 Thread Mark Wieder
On 08/29/2015 03:53 AM, Kay C Lan wrote: repeat with x = 1 to 10 add 1 to x end repeat beep It's really not a good idea to try to mess with the loop index while it's running. Do this instead: put 1 into y repeat with x = 1 to 10 add 1 to y end repeat beep and set the break

Re: Script Editor future (was Open Source Kickstarter Report Card)

2015-08-29 Thread Richard Gaskin
Kay C Lan wrote: On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:46 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Kay C Lan wrote: a better mechanism to track the changes and transfer those back and forth - that improvement can only be done from the mothership. What's needed? Let's make it so. Love the positive attitude :-)

Font Number Conversion?

2015-08-29 Thread Scott Rossi
Hi All: I'm struggling to to do some converting of Unicode icon font characters and am lost in number formats and representations. For example, a character can be represented in these forms: Decimal: 58880 Unicode: E600 HTML: #58880; CSS: \f230 Does anyone know how the CSS number is derived?

Re: [Bug] Red Dot Breakpoints Ignored - Recipe

2015-08-29 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mark Wieder wrote: On 08/29/2015 03:53 AM, Kay C Lan wrote: repeat with x = 1 to 10 add 1 to x end repeat beep It's really not a good idea to try to mess with the loop index while it's running. Do this instead: put 1 into y repeat with x = 1 to 10 add 1 to y end repeat beep Good

Re: Font Number Conversion?

2015-08-29 Thread Richmond
On 08/29/2015 09:43 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: Hi All: I'm struggling to to do some converting of Unicode icon font characters and am lost in number formats and representations. For example, a character can be represented in these forms: Decimal: 58880 Unicode: E600 HTML: #58880; CSS: \f230 Does

Re: Font Number Conversion?

2015-08-29 Thread Richmond
On 08/29/2015 10:23 PM, Richmond wrote: On 08/29/2015 09:43 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: Hi All: I'm struggling to to do some converting of Unicode icon font characters and am lost in number formats and representations. For example, a character can be represented in these forms: Decimal: 58880

Re: Script Editor future (was Open Source Kickstarter Report Card)

2015-08-29 Thread Monte Goulding
On 29 Aug 2015, at 10:22 pm, Peter TB Brett peter.br...@livecode.com wrote: This looks like the sort of thing that's best off being looked at by Mark Waddingham. Unfortunately my last day before my annual holiday is the day before he gets back from his annual holiday, so I'm not going to

Re: Script-only stacks [was: Re: Script Editor future]

2015-08-29 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 2015-08-29 23:05, Monte Goulding wrote: On 29 Aug 2015, at 10:22 pm, Peter TB Brett peter.br...@livecode.com wrote: This looks like the sort of thing that's best off being looked at by Mark Waddingham. Unfortunately my last day before my annual holiday is the day before he gets back from

Re: [Bug] Red Dot Breakpoints Ignored - Recipe

2015-08-29 Thread Mark Wieder
On 08/29/2015 03:53 AM, Kay C Lan wrote: I expected to find a Bug Report at the QCC but nothing stuck out. I know that this has been a long standing issue so can: a) you confirm that you see this too b) suggest an appropriate bug number to add my findings. That said, the way LiveCode deals

Re: [Bug] Red Dot Breakpoints Ignored - Recipe

2015-08-29 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mark Wieder wrote: The oddest part to me is that there's already a mechanism in the engine for dealing with this, but the IDE doesn't use it. What is that mechanism? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web

Re: Script-only stacks [was: Re: Script Editor future]

2015-08-29 Thread Ali Lloyd
I agree that any scriptOnly property should be read-only, thus eliminating any potential dire consequences. After all, you can easily lossily scriptify a stack by creating a new script-only and setting the script to another one. Whilst I agree that the main use of script only stacks should be for

More TopStack-DefaultStack Mysterious - TraveralOn (false) Selection lost?

2015-08-29 Thread Brahmanathaswami
7.1.rc 1 I could have sworn this used to work: make stack # Call it no. 1 utilities create button set traversalON of the button to false on mouseUp set the defaultstack to the topStack put selectedChunk() end mouseUp set stack 1 to palette mode. go to stack 2 with text in a field

Re: More TopStack-DefaultStack Mysterious - TraveralOn (false) Selection lost?

2015-08-29 Thread Richard Gaskin
Brahmanathaswami wrote: 7.1.rc 1 I could have sworn this used to work: make stack # Call it no. 1 utilities create button set traversalON of the button to false on mouseUp set the defaultstack to the topStack put selectedChunk() end mouseUp set stack 1 to palette mode.

Setting DefaultStack to TopStack does not make it's stack script available?

2015-08-29 Thread Brahmanathaswami
7.1 rc(1) I am trying to create some tools that can be used across many stacks. in some cases it's not completely generic and I want to have functions unique to scripts in the topstack to fire e.g. stack 1 : utilities.livecode # set to palette mode stack 2: topstack: myProject.livecode in

Re: More TopStack-DefaultStack Mysterious - TraveralOn (false) Selection lost?

2015-08-29 Thread Mike Bonner
Seems like this has been the way it is in osx as long as I can remember, but it does seem like the no traversal/palette tool stack would solve it. Works fine in windows. On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: Brahmanathaswami wrote: 7.1.rc 1

Re: [Bug] Red Dot Breakpoints Ignored - Recipe

2015-08-29 Thread Kay C Lan
On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 1:56 AM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: It's really not a good idea to try to mess with the loop index while it's running. Do this instead: put 1 into y repeat with x = 1 to 10 add 1 to y end repeat beep and set the break condition on the 'add 1 to y'

Re: Font Number Conversion?

2015-08-29 Thread Scott Rossi
Answering my own question: Turns out there were two versions of the font I was looking at, with characters ordered differently internally. [sigh] Nice waste of time and loss of hair on this one. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX/UI Design On 8/29/15, 11:43 AM, Scott

Re: More TopStack-DefaultStack Mysterious - TraveralOn (false) Selection lost?

2015-08-29 Thread Brahmanathaswami
Agreed... ideally it would be some how documented... otherwise the presumption is if autotab is not checked for a field there is no reason for the engine to insist that the cursor go there if the traversal is true. but, yes... there are bigger fish to fry. -- Swasti Astu, Be Well!

Re: More TopStack-DefaultStack Mysterious - TraveralOn (false) Selection lost?

2015-08-29 Thread Richard Gaskin
Brahmanathaswami wrote: Agreed... ideally it would be some how documented... Ah, but that's the hard part: where? For all I know it may even be documented already, but I can't imagine where I might go to learn about it. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and

Re: [Bug] Red Dot Breakpoints Ignored - Recipe

2015-08-29 Thread Kay C Lan
On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 11:47 AM, Kay C Lan lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com wrote: because the condtion isn't invalid but it... because the condition isn't valid or because the condition is invalid as you can see I even need a syntax checker for my own emails before I push the Send button. No

Re: Script-only stacks [was: Re: Script Editor future]

2015-08-29 Thread Monte Goulding
On 30 Aug 2015, at 8:24 am, Peter TB Brett peter.br...@livecode.com wrote: I *think* Mark will be back in the office on Monday, so he'll probably see this exchange At the moment I usually treat normal stacks and script-only stacks as totally different things. I think of normal stacks

Goodbye stsMLXEditor

2015-08-29 Thread Peter Haworth
Did lots of script editing in Textmate today via stsMXL plugin. Saved several times along the way, quit TextMate and Livecode. Next time I ran Livecode, all my edits were gone. Maybe it needed a final save or something but should have received warnings if so. Back to the IDE SE for me

Re: Goodbye stsMLXEditor

2015-08-29 Thread Richard Gaskin
Peter Haworth wrote: Did lots of script editing in Textmate today via stsMXL plugin. Saved several times along the way, quit TextMate and Livecode. Next time I ran Livecode, all my edits were gone. Maybe it needed a final save or something but should have received warnings if so. Back

Re: More TopStack-DefaultStack Mysterious - TraveralOn (false) Selection lost?

2015-08-29 Thread Brahmanathaswami
I think I found a very obscure bug. i created another palatte stack with my button... it works as expected. So there is was something different about my my utilities stack... well ...it has a field object on it Monitor-log this field had it's traversalOn set to true, autotab is off. even

[ANN]SoCal LiveCode Meeting, Sept 3

2015-08-29 Thread Richard Gaskin
The next meeting of the SoCal LiveCode User Group is coming up on Thursday, Sept 3 in Pasadena at 7PM. IMPORTANT: The meeting is being held at our new location, Du-par's Restaurant, on S. Lake Avenue near Cordova Street: Du-par's Pasadena, back room 214 S. Lake Ave. Pasadena, CA 91101

Re: More TopStack-DefaultStack Mysterious - TraveralOn (false) Selection lost?

2015-08-29 Thread Richard Gaskin
Brahmanathaswami wrote: I think what is happening is: even though Auto tab is off, if you have a field exposed on a card and go to that card the cursor jumps into the field... not matter what mode the stack is in... Should I report this? I'm sure they're aware of it. The bigger question