Re: 'Quit' mystery

2015-11-05 Thread paolo mazza
Nearly 1 year ago I posted this http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14263 . It was confirmed but probably it has not been fixed yet. All the best, Paolo On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 4:47 AM, Howard Bornstein wrote: > This really helped me out. Thanks Martin! I couldn't

garbage collection run amok again in 7.1.1Rc2?

2015-11-05 Thread Dr. Hawkins
I am seeing the *long*, as in several seconds, delays again when making changes in long (10k+ line) handlers. A minor edit, and off to la-la land. Are others being this? -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 ___ use-livecode mailing list

Re: [ANN] Text-file DBs

2015-11-05 Thread David Bovill
Paul I'd love to see the presentation - would be great if you could record it or we could arrange to do it as an online session with people from the list? On 3 November 2015 at 05:02, Paul Looney wrote: > This coming Thursday evening, Nov. 5th, I will doing a presentation on >

Save Stack very slow in Windows 7

2015-11-05 Thread dfepstein
I have for years successfully run a set of stacks using LiveCode 5.5.3 in Windows 7.  Recently certain operations have become painfully slow (Windows says "not responding" for 2 minutes or so, but eventually does respond and the operation is completed). Setting some breakpoints to investigate,

Re: Livecode all around the world

2015-11-05 Thread Sri
If you assign a word in, say, Mandarin for every LiveCode-specific word or phrase (keyword, command, message, etc.), it will be a cheap (if stilted) solution to the problem. The added advantage is translation of an entire application script to any language at the click of a button and back. There

Re: [ANN] Text-file DBs

2015-11-05 Thread Paul Looney
David, Sri, Robert, Bruce, Matt, Sorry you can’t come tonight. I understand that little "distance problem”. The presentation will not be recorded. It is hard enough preparing all of the material without spending a couple days deciding what to wear. ;-) I have been working on a small book

Re: garbage collection run amok again in 7.1.1Rc2?

2015-11-05 Thread Bob Sneidar
I was under the impression that very long scripts take some time to compile. If this has been addressed and this was no longer the case, I am very surprised and curious how they managed that. It would mean that scripts are now indexed somehow so only the relevant parts of the scripts are

Re: [ANN] Text-file DBs

2015-11-05 Thread Matt Maier
I can bring my webcam in case it's useful. On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 9:12 AM, David Bovill wrote: > Paul I'd love to see the presentation - would be great if you could record > it or we could arrange to do it as an online session with people from the > list? > > On 3 November

Re: HTML5 product

2015-11-05 Thread Bob Sneidar
Suddenly, I am keenly aware of the certainty of my own mortality. ;-) Bob S On Nov 5, 2015, at 07:46 , Peter TB Brett > wrote: [1] Standard disclaimers: if it's on this list, it doesn't mean it will be done; if it's not on the list,

Re: Livecode all around the world

2015-11-05 Thread Roland Huettmann
I would not go further then that, just replacing word by word. But I wonder how that would sound in German for example: "put x into button y" - "Lege x in Knopf y"? Too funny. There is no equivalent even for a simple word such as "put" or "button" which would give exactly the same idea. The

Re: Livecode all around the world

2015-11-05 Thread Bob Sneidar
+1 Anyone who has developed in dBase or it's derivatives understands what it means to speak English, and *STILL* have to learn a completely different development language! BTW Google Translate has it "legte x in y -Taste". Dutch, argueably close to German has it "zet x -knop in y". Still

Re: [ANN] Text-file DBs

2015-11-05 Thread Sri
Robert Brenstein wrote > ... Do you have any files that you can share? +1 By any chance, you can record and throw it on YouTube? Something I'd really like to attend. Only 2500 miles away! Regards, Sri -- View this message in context:

Re: HTML5 product

2015-11-05 Thread Glen Bojsza
Thanks Peter, Your response and details (which are really nice pointers : helpful) make me feel comfortable enough to go ahead and purchase it. regards, Glen On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Peter TB Brett wrote: > On 05/11/2015 15:30, Glen Bojsza wrote: > >> I was

Re: Livecode all around the world

2015-11-05 Thread dunbarx
Sri. I had suggested something similar last year, say for Italian. The thinking was that a word-for-word substitution is not robust enough. Language syntax, (native verb placement in a sentence, for example) would break such a system right away. The thread is on the use-list somewhere.

Re: HTML5 product

2015-11-05 Thread jbv
> HTML5 support in community and commercial is identical, except that you > can't make closed-source apps with the community edition. just curious, what does that mean exactly ? does the " closed-source apps" thing concern only regular standalones, or does it also concern the HTML5 code with js

Re: Livecode all around the world

2015-11-05 Thread Matt Maier
Maybe you could just replace the words with pictograms so it's language independent. put: https://thenounproject.com/search/?q=put The human-understandable symbols are arbitrary so the fact that Livecode's symbols are derived from English words is missing the point. The symbol "put" could be

Re: HTML5 product

2015-11-05 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 05/11/2015 18:36, j...@souslelogo.com wrote: HTML5 support in community and commercial is identical, except that you can't make closed-source apps with the community edition. just curious, what does that mean exactly ? does the " closed-source apps" thing concern only regular

Re: Livecode all around the world

2015-11-05 Thread Matt Maier
On Nov 5, 2015 10:32, "Bob Sneidar" wrote: > > > On Nov 5, 2015, at 10:20 , Matt Maier wrote: > > The human-understandable symbols are arbitrary so the fact that Livecode's > symbols are derived from English words is missing the point. The

Re: 'Quit' mystery

2015-11-05 Thread Howard Bornstein
I've updated the bug report with Martin's solution in case anyone else runs into this. On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 5:20 AM, paolo mazza wrote: > Nearly 1 year ago I posted this > http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14263 . > It was confirmed but probably it has not

Re: [ANN] Text-file DBs

2015-11-05 Thread David Bovill
Thanks Paul - I'd be really interested in helping / proof reading / asking stupid questions :) On 5 November 2015 at 17:57, Paul Looney wrote: > David, Sri, Robert, Bruce, Matt, > > Sorry you can’t come tonight. I understand that little "distance problem”. > > The presentation

Re: HTML5 product

2015-11-05 Thread Matt Maier
It means the license for community forbids you from applying a closed-source license to the standalones you compile using the community IDE. Since you didn't pay for the community IDE, you can do whatever you want open source. If you want to close the source of your work you need to buy a

Re: HTML5 product

2015-11-05 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 6 Nov 2015, at 6:50 am, Peter TB Brett wrote: > > * The LiveCode engine, compiled to a (large) JavaScript file. This is the > same for every standalone created with a particular version of LiveCode > > * A special ".html.mem" file that's used for engine

Re: Livecode all around the world

2015-11-05 Thread Bob Sneidar
On Nov 5, 2015, at 10:20 , Matt Maier > wrote: The human-understandable symbols are arbitrary so the fact that Livecode's symbols are derived from English words is missing the point. The symbol "put" could be "123XYZ" for all the computer cares.

Re: Livecode all around the world

2015-11-05 Thread Bob Sneidar
I see. Well then, let's toss out all the graphical OS'es ever written and go back to command line computing. Is seems the great exiperiment has failed. Bob S On Nov 5, 2015, at 11:25 , Matt Maier > wrote: I disagree. All of the responsibility

Re: HTML5 product

2015-11-05 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 05/11/2015 20:03, Monte Goulding wrote: On 6 Nov 2015, at 6:50 am, Peter TB Brett wrote: * The LiveCode engine, compiled to a (large) JavaScript file. This is the same for every standalone created with a particular version of LiveCode * A special ".html.mem"

Re: garbage collection run amok again in 7.1.1Rc2?

2015-11-05 Thread Ali Lloyd
I have actually seen this myself once whilst running in debug mode from source, and I think it was stuck in a 'TryToEvaluate' loop for some reason - I think it can be stopped by doing Cmd + . although that might not be the same thing. Anyway, It's worth filing a bug report if there isn't one

Re: [ANN] Text-file DBs

2015-11-05 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Hi Paul After reading your post, I just remember Serendipity Library: http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-livecode/2002-September/007745.html Do you used this library released by Rob Cozens? Al -- View this message in context:

Re: play vc xyz, still stuck in the 80s?

2015-11-05 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Hi Klaus, In Linux, we use shell commands: http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=20=18429 Al -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/play-vc-xyz-still-stuck-in-the-80s-tp4698478p4698516.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at

Re: Livecode all around the world

2015-11-05 Thread Sri
RH wrote > I would not go further then that, just replacing word by word. But I > wonder > how that would sound in German for example: "put x into button y" - "Lege > x in Knopf y"? Too funny. There is no equivalent even for a simple word > such as "put" or "button" which would give exactly the

Re: Livecode all around the world

2015-11-05 Thread Matt Maier
I think there would still be people who want to be able to type "your synonym here" instead of "sudo." And that would still not help them understand what sudo does and it would still interfere with any attempt they make to research or ask for help. On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Bob Sneidar

Re: Livecode all around the world

2015-11-05 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Many Thanks for your ideas and opinions about this unusual and very hypothetical topic. I agree with many of your points of view: This could works very well in some languages and not so well in many others... but this should be tested by Universities, with feedback from students and professionals

Re: HTML5 product

2015-11-05 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 6 Nov 2015, at 7:10 am, Peter TB Brett wrote: > > Yes! There's a discussion & examples here on the forums: > > http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=120=25345 > Interesting. So is there any plans for

RE: garbage collection run amok again in 7.1.1Rc2?

2015-11-05 Thread John Dixon
10,000 lines in one liveCode handler ?... really !?... I don't think, .. no, I know that I have never written a stack that has 10,000 lines in it in total... > Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2015 09:04:46 -0800 > Subject: garbage collection run amok again in 7.1.1Rc2? > From: doch...@gmail.com > To:

Re: garbage collection run amok again in 7.1.1Rc2?

2015-11-05 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 1:01 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > I think he probably meant "script" rather than "handler." But even my most > complex project wasn't that long. (If it really is a single handler then it > isn't written correctly.) When I see numbers like that, my

Re: garbage collection run amok again in 7.1.1Rc2?

2015-11-05 Thread J. Landman Gay
I think he probably meant "script" rather than "handler." But even my most complex project wasn't that long. (If it really is a single handler then it isn't written correctly.) When I see numbers like that, my first thought is "optimization." It would be an interesting challenge if Richard

Re: OT: Announce -- Himalayan Academy's First LiveCode Mobile App is Up

2015-11-05 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Congratulations! :-) Could you post screenshots and explain us how this app works? I am sure that your experience could be really helpful for many of us, LiveCode developers. Alejandro -- View this message in context:

Re: garbage collection run amok again in 7.1.1Rc2?

2015-11-05 Thread gcanyon
I am always in for this. gc gc > On Nov 5, 2015, at 4:01 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > > It would be an interesting challenge if Richard could supply a sample of a > long handler and see if we could reduce it. ___

OT: Announce -- Himalayan Academy's First LiveCode Mobile App is Up

2015-11-05 Thread Brahmanathaswami
Jai Ganesha! Wow! we did it! https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.himalayanacademy.gurudeva After years of coding tools for in house production service and then web server side scripting... I finally got to do some fun work and build the prototype for an app that is a simple

Re: [ANN] Text-file DBs

2015-11-05 Thread Paul Looney
Alejandro, No, we do not use SDB. We looked at it a decade ago and decided to go a different route. Paul Looney > On Nov 5, 2015, at 3:42 PM, Alejandro Tejada wrote: > > Hi Paul > > After reading your post, I just remember Serendipity Library: >

HTML5 product

2015-11-05 Thread Glen Bojsza
I was wondering if anyone knows the current state of the HTML5 product that is being sold. My concern is that if I buy a 1 year license and it needs so many releases before it is developed well enough to deploy than am I buying too early? When the product site has "Are there limitations to HTML5

Re: Release 8.0.0 DP 8

2015-11-05 Thread Bob Sneidar
Not to stir up a firestorm, but the vast majority of the refugees are younger males typically without families. As always, there is more to the story than anyone is being told. Bob S On Nov 4, 2015, at 22:31 , Richmond > wrote:

Re: HTML5 product

2015-11-05 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 05/11/2015 15:30, Glen Bojsza wrote: I was wondering if anyone knows the current state of the HTML5 product that is being sold. I do! I am the lead developer in the core dev team for the HTML5 platform. My concern is that if I buy a 1 year license and it needs so many releases before it

Re: [ANN] Text-file DBs

2015-11-05 Thread Robert Brenstein
I wish I could come. I am tasked to build exactly such a thing for the department. Do you have any files that you can share? RObert On 02.11.2015 at 21:02 Uhr -0800 Paul Looney apparently wrote: This coming Thursday evening, Nov. 5th, I will doing a presentation on Text-file Databases at the

play vc xyz, still stuck in the 80s?

2015-11-05 Thread Klaus major-k
Hi all, after years of neglecting the „play“ command on the desktop due to too few supported file formats, I read an encouraging posting from Richard G. here on the list, where he told us that much had been done in this respect in Livecode, I decided to give it another try: on mouseUp play