Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

The backdrop is a problem for the linux platform since I'm with LiveCode (4 years now). If you ever click on linux into the backdrop you are lost. That's why this was my first Raspi stack: a 'work-around' for that. (Raspi stacks collection #1) ___ use-li

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

"only set the backdrop if users were still in the first run mode of the start center." Even that is a "load of old Bollo"; I'm sure that a lot of people trying out LiveCode for the first time are going to go "gae quair" when they see their desktop vanish. I really wonder if anyone, anywhere e

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

I got that as well ; not good. Richmond. On 7/19/17 2:37 am, Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode wrote: I haven't seen this type of user abuse since StarOffice 4 . . . Opening 8.1.6-rc2 turns on a backdrop. (Mac Sierra) Even worse, it sets a default so that launching RC1 has that backdrop. It took

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

Do your keyboard shortcuts work Mark? You could use Ctrl+M to pop open the message box, and set the backdrop to none, then toggle it on and off via the View menu, then hopefully it should be gone from your preferences. On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 6:25 AM J. Landman Gay via use-livecode < use-livecode@

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2

Just out of interest, if it is not having the dictionary that makes them 'unusable', does it launch correctly in a browser if you change the script of revIDEBrowserWidgetUnavailable to return true? On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 11:14 PM Mark Wieder via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

Don't know if it helps, but I didn't see this behavior. I frequently turn on the backdrop when screen sharing and turn it off later. I wonder if the problem only occurs if there is no preference set yet? Mac OS X El Capitan. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com Hyper

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

> On 19 Jul 2017, at 2:10 pm, Mark Wieder via use-livecode > wrote: > > Nothing but a backdrop. Takes over the screen. Everything else is hidden > behind the gray featureless backdrop. I had to alt-tab to a terminal window > (what if I didn't have one already running?) in order to kill -9 liv

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

On 07/18/2017 08:55 PM, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote: On 19 Jul 2017, at 1:42 pm, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: Yep. LiveCode (any version) is now completely unusable for me. Completely unusable might be overstating things a touch don’t you think? There is a menu to remove

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

> On 19 Jul 2017, at 1:42 pm, Mark Wieder via use-livecode > wrote: > > Yep. LiveCode (any version) is now completely unusable for me. Completely unusable might be overstating things a touch don’t you think? There is a menu to remove the backdrop (View > Backdrop). Looking at the PR it was m

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

On 07/18/2017 04:37 PM, Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode wrote: I haven't seen this type of user abuse since StarOffice 4 . . . Opening 8.1.6-rc2 turns on a backdrop. (Mac Sierra) Even worse, it sets a default so that launching RC1 has that backdrop. It took me a while to figure out what the evil

Re: [ANN] TinyDictionary updated to display Synonyms

Brian and Bernd, thank you for this!! I use it all the time now and I love it. Cheers, Roger > On Jul 18, 2017, at 3:59 PM, BNig via use-livecode > wrote: > > Brian Milby contributed to tinyDictinary the extraction of synonyms. He also > submitted a pull request to add synonyms to the built-

Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

I haven't seen this type of user abuse since StarOffice 4 . . . Opening 8.1.6-rc2 turns on a backdrop. (Mac Sierra) Even worse, it sets a default so that launching RC1 has that backdrop. It took me a while to figure out what the evil sheet over my desktop was . . . (staroffice 4 bit into that "

[ANN] TinyDictionary updated to display Synonyms

Brian Milby contributed to tinyDictinary the extraction of synonyms. He also submitted a pull request to add synonyms to the built-in dictionary https://github.com/livecode/livecode/pull/5669 Synonyms now are part of the built-in dictionary as of LC9 DP8. TinyDictionary displays synomyms in LC ve

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2

On 07/18/2017 02:39 PM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote: @Mark What reasons? I mean, if we don't know what are the issues preventing you from using dp7/8, they are not likely to be fixed in dp9. Not to worry. Nothing that hasn't been reported already and is being worked on. -- Mar

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2

@Mark What reasons? I mean, if we don't know what are the issues preventing you from using dp7/8, they are not likely to be fixed in dp9. Best, Panos -- On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 10:36 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 07/18/2017 02:02 PM, Ali Lloyd via

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2

On 07/18/2017 02:02 PM, Ali Lloyd via use-livecode wrote: Do you mean the one that we can't reproduce, or the one that's fixed in 9 DP 7? ;-) Dunno - dp7/8 are unusable for me for a number of reasons. I'm looking forward to dp9. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com _

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2

Do you mean the one that we can't reproduce, or the one that's fixed in 9 DP 7? ;-) Either way, it will be exactly the same mechanism, better to find and fix your issue than to rewrite all the code and risk introducing new bugs. If I have my way the standalone settings will go the same route. On

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2

On 07/18/2017 01:07 PM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: cf. Jacque's "Twilight Zone". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moomintroll We Europeans . . . That's slightly different from the original link, and aside from the troll reference I'm not sure how this is a replacement from the

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2

On 07/18/2017 01:06 PM, Ali Lloyd via use-livecode wrote: On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 6:53 PM Mark Waddingham via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: Why do I get the feeling we might be having to do a vigorous 'moomin'* on how prefs are handled in the IDE at some point soon...

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2

And, Ahum + Richmond. On 7/18/17 11:06 pm, Ali Lloyd via use-livecode wrote: On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 6:53 PM Mark Waddingham via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: Why do I get the feeling we might be having to do a vigorous 'moomin'* on how prefs are handled in the IDE at s

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2

cf. Jacque's "Twilight Zone". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moomintroll We Europeans . . . Richmond. On 7/18/17 10:09 pm, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: On 07/18/2017 11:19 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: :) So that just leaves Little My, Tooticky, the ancestor, Sniff, Th

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2

On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 6:53 PM Mark Waddingham via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > Why do I get the feeling we might be having to do a vigorous 'moomin'* > on how prefs are handled in the IDE at some point soon... > Ahem: http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20098

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2

On 07/18/2017 11:19 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: :) So that just leaves Little My, Tooticky, the ancestor, Sniff, The Groke, ... WTF? -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2

Thanks for adjusting/modifying the default handler list. Looks so much better now. Matthias Matthias Rebbe +49 5741 31 ‌matthiasrebbe.eu ‌ > Am 18.07.2017 um 18:30 schrieb panagiotis merakos via use-livecode > mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>: > > Dear list

Re: Should RunRev create a testing circle for developers?

jonathandlynch wrote: > Would it be helpful if the Mothership had a group activity where > developers could put in a certain number of hours testing others' > apps, and then cash in for an equal number of hours from other > developers getting their own apps tested? I think such a pool is a very

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2

Just as long as we don't get a bad case of hattifatteners! Richmond. On 7/18/17 9:19 pm, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: :) So that just leaves Little My, Tooticky, the ancestor, Sniff, The Groke, ... Sent from my iPhone On 18 Jul 2017, at 19:12, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2

:) So that just leaves Little My, Tooticky, the ancestor, Sniff, The Groke, ... Sent from my iPhone > On 18 Jul 2017, at 19:12, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode > wrote: > > Well; if the lot in Edinburgh are Moomins I'm a very opinionated Hemulen: > > http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2

Well; if the lot in Edinburgh are Moomins I'm a very opinionated Hemulen: http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=29487&p=156063#p155838 "All in the best possible taste", Richmond. On 7/18/17 8:53 pm, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: On 2017-07-18 19:08, Richmond Mathewson via u

Re: Why is libcef included in standalone?

On 2017-07-18 19:25, Dan Friedman via use-livecode wrote: Mark, Thanks for the very helpful info and the quick reply! In my case, I am displaying a very simple webpage as a type of preview. So, the latest html compatibility isn’t an issue. For this project, I’ll manually remove the libcef.dll

Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.0 DP-8

On 07/18/2017 06:46 AM, Bob Hall via use-livecode wrote: I’ve had the completion capability on my local dev environment for a couple of years via a plugin that I wrote. I wrestled with these same problems years ago. I actually find that it is benefitial to have BOTH completion and no completio

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2

On 2017-07-18 19:08, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: This should be fun, and in the light of "taking community feedback into consideration" we should all 'jump on' anything we don't like with alternative (constructive) suggestions as soon as possible. Alternative *concrete* suggestio

Re: Why is libcef included in standalone?

Mark, Thanks for the very helpful info and the quick reply! In my case, I am displaying a very simple webpage as a type of preview. So, the latest html compatibility isn’t an issue. For this project, I’ll manually remove the libcef.dll and move forward. Thanks! -Dan ___

Re: Sending an FTP command from one web server to another?

Tim Selander wrote: > My company gave up on hosting our email and website at on-rev.com > back when they were having lots of reliability problems. We're using > a host in Japan; no LC server installed, nor is it installable. > > I still have our Founder's account on on-rev.com, and use quite a fe

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2

This should be fun, and in the light of "taking community feedback into consideration" we should all 'jump on' anything we don't like with alternative (constructive) suggestions as soon as possible. Richmond. On 7/18/17 7:30 pm, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote: Dear list members, W

[ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2

Dear list members, We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.6 RC-2. Getting the Release === You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or via the automatic updater. Release Contents LiveCode 8.1.6 RC-2 contains 14 bugfixes

Re: Why is libcef included in standalone?

On 2017-07-18 18:07, Dan Friedman via use-livecode wrote: Using LC 8.1.5, I have unchecked “Browser (CEF)” option in the “Inclusions” section of the “Standalone Application Settings”. However, libcef.dll is still included in the standalone build on Windows. It is not included in the build for OS

Why is libcef included in standalone?

Using LC 8.1.5, I have unchecked “Browser (CEF)” option in the “Inclusions” section of the “Standalone Application Settings”. However, libcef.dll is still included in the standalone build on Windows. It is not included in the build for OSX. Am I right that this dll is solely for the use of th

Re: Sending an FTP command from one web server to another?

On 07/18/2017 03:38 AM, Tim Selander via use-livecode wrote: Any ideas why the connection would be refused when coming from on-rev, but not LC desktop? Anyways around this? You might check your hosting account settings to see if there are any user, IP, or geo access restrictions set up. May

Re: Exposing ourselves

Hi Bob! A markdown guide that goes in here https://github.com/livecode/livecode-ide/tree/develop/Documentation/guides would be wonderful - then it would appear in the guides section of the dictionary and also be built into the user guide PDF. Eventually, IDE APIs will be built into an IDE 'diction

Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.0 DP-8

I’ve had the completion capability on my local dev environment for a couple of years via a plugin that I wrote. I wrestled with these same problems years ago. I actually find that it is benefitial to have BOTH completion and no completion. Having a setting to change this is combersome. It is an

Android Full Screen Browser.

My Current project is implementing epubjs to view EBooks on mobile using the browser control. There is a "full screen" option in the epubjs tool bar. I clicked it and figured What could it do? I made the browser control a specific size so this button is worthless. On iOS it does nothing but on A

Re: Exposing ourselves

It’s is very possible to create a plugin that customizes the IDE/Script Editor to your likely. I have a startup script that modifies many of the settings and applies “bug" fixes to the IDE/Script Editor when my Dev environment opens. “Bug” fixes are things that either are truly a bug in the IDE

Re: Sending an FTP command from one web server to another?

Hi again Matthias, I remembered I was given an ftp account on a colleague's server awhile back -- tried that and got access with both LC server and via ssh on sage.on-rev. So gmoserver.jp is blocking access from sage.on-rev somehow... Back to the drawing board. Thanks for your time and inpu

Re: Weird variable thing in 8.1.5

I can't imagine the number of hours I would lose without having that option on. I have about 5 lines of code if not more. So maybe I need it more than most people. On Jul 16, 2017 3:38 PM, "Alex Tweedly via use-livecode" < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > On 16/07/2017 18:49, J

Re: Sending an FTP command from one web server to another?

Hi again, Reporting back for RevRun support was very quick at activating ssh on my account -- thanks! However, using ftp from the commandline to gmoserver.jp resulted in the same message: connection refused OK, time to take a new tack on the problem! Thanks for the tip, Matthias. Tim

Re: Sending an FTP command from one web server to another?

Hi Tim, i had some time during lunch and made a quick test on my on-rev account at the Jasmine server. I am able to list the files of a non on-rev server without problems using livecode server. Jasmine runs version 7.1.0 of lc server. Regards, Matthias Matthias Rebbe +49 5741 31 ‌matth

Re: Sending an FTP command from one web server to another?

Hi Matthias, Good idea. I just sent support an email asking to have ssh activated! I'll post again with results! Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan On 2017.07.18, 19:12, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode wrote: Do you have ssh access for your on-rev account? If not, ask support to enable it for you.

Re: Sending an FTP command from one web server to another?

Do you have ssh access for your on-rev account? If not, ask support to enable it for you. Try to use ftp from the commandline, just to see if gmoserver.jp accepts that connection. If that also doesn´t work, then i would assume that your server is blocking the incoming co

Re: Exposing ourselves

That is rather an opaque answer. Richmond. On 7/18/17 12:48 pm, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote: On 18 Jul 2017, at 7:19 pm, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: "it’s currently not exposed in the IDE UI" 1. How can we work out what features are "latent" in LiveCode but are hidd

Re: Exposing ourselves

> On 18 Jul 2017, at 7:19 pm, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode > wrote: > > "it’s currently not exposed in the IDE UI" > > 1. How can we work out what features are "latent" in LiveCode but are hidden? > > 2. How can we 'hack' the IDE to expose any of those features we may find > useful?

Exposing ourselves

"it’s currently not exposed in the IDE UI" 1. How can we work out what features are "latent" in LiveCode but are hidden? 2. How can we 'hack' the IDE to expose any of those features we may find useful? Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-l

Sending an FTP command from one web server to another?

Hi, My company gave up on hosting our email and website at on-rev.com back when they were having lots of reliability problems. We're using a host in Japan; no LC server installed, nor is it installable. I still have our Founder's account on on-rev.com, and use quite a few .lc scripts, callin

Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.0 DP-8

> On 18 Jul 2017, at 5:59 pm, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode > wrote: > > I think it is worth having a preference for both highlighting and completion > - it serves people's individual tastes, and as long as the preference is > discoverable then it won't add any complexity. OK, I’ll open a

Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.0 DP-8

On 2017-07-17 23:25, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote: Actually it’s quite helpful within strings. Consider a string to be used with the merge function or just the likelihood of wanting a pair of brackets in a string rather than a single one. As for quotes as they are not valid within a stri

Re: intersect . . . invisible images

I remember him as particularly good as Geppetto in a film of Pinocchio. Richmond. On 7/18/17 4:58 am, Jim Lambert via use-livecode wrote: Richmond wrote: all the cheap American series... Oh, and, inevitably "Mission Impossible”. Yesterday the actor Martin Landau, who appeared in that show, di