Re: Groups in the message path: Trapping Mouseup

2019-12-10 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Paul Dupuis wrote: > Richard Gaskin, at one point, had a really excellent diagram of the > LiveCode message hierarchy. If he sees this post and still has it > perhaps he could post a link to it. Still there: https://www.fourthworld.com/embassy/articles/revolution_message_path.html Since I made t

Re: LC #48 @TIOBE

2019-12-10 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Terry Judd wrote: Some contrasting data... https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=%2Fm%2F0490j1 2013 was LC's massive Kickstarter campaign. For a system reflecting general searches, I would expect a decline in general attention after that. Among programmer-specific re

Re: Animated Gifs - Keep them Running

2019-12-10 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote: > I switched from the mobileIndicator to installing an animated gif for > Loading. This way I have control over the load process and can let > users bail out. > > It is a lovely gif, but it "hangs" when the processor on phone is > doing something else. It there a

Animated Gifs - Keep them Running

2019-12-10 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
I switched from the mobileIndicator to installing an animated gif for Loading. This way I have control over the load process and can let users bail out. It is a lovely gif, but it "hangs" when the processor on phone is doing something else. It there are way to keep it's frames "circling" until g

Re: Java update?

2019-12-10 Thread Colin Holgate via use-livecode
I don’t know if your version of LiveCode is an example, but many applications need Java 6 in particular, and macOS comes with Java 8. The solution is to install the legacy version of Java as well: https://support.apple.com/kb/dl1572?locale=en_US

Re: Java update?

2019-12-10 Thread Rick Harrison via use-livecode
Well, that’s a bummer. There is your answer though. Happy updating! Rick > On Dec 10, 2019, at 3:29 PM, JJS via use-livecode > wrote: > > You can't build for Android if you don't have Java on your machine > > Op 10-12-2019 om 18:04 schreef Rick Harrison via use-livecode: >> If you go into

Re: LC #48 @TIOBE

2019-12-10 Thread Terry Judd via use-livecode
TIOBE is obviously measuring a bunch of other things and assigning a fair bit of weight to them - if you compare the Trends data for RUST (#31/0.37%) and LiveCode (#48/0.18%) it's chalk and cheese... https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=%2Fm%2F0490j1,%2Fm%2F0dsbpg6 On 11/12/19, 12:55 pm

Re: Windows Standalone Performance

2019-12-10 Thread Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode
Bob: > Since I do a lot of setup, I was saving the stack(s) multiple > times just launching the app! And it was killing the performance. Behold the antivirus. One more reason to code with care This time it did you a favor; these habits add up to hurt Mac apps too. Best wishes, Curry Ken

Re: Groups in the message path: Trapping Mouseup

2019-12-10 Thread Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode
Just for reference, Dar Scott wrote a Primer in Message Mechanics: http://pages.swcp.com/dsc/revstacks.html Al on Tue, 10 Dec 2019, Paul Dupuis wrote: [snip] Richard Gaskin, at one point, had a really excellent diagram of the LiveCode message hierarchy. If he sees this post and still has it perha

Re: LC #48 @TIOBE

2019-12-10 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 12/10/19 5:25 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: Armenia? I see a steady 50% linear decrease in interest over the last five years. That can't be good. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.

Re: LC #48 @TIOBE

2019-12-10 Thread Terry Judd via use-livecode
Very similar results just with 'livecode' as the search term... https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=%2Fm%2F0490j1,Livecode ...and the LiveCode website is the first search result on Google and the Wikipedia page on LiveCode the second so it would seem to be a reasonable a

Re: LC #48 @TIOBE

2019-12-10 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
Armenia? There's also a livecode programming method, I wonder if that's conflated. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On December 10, 2019 6:37:17 PM Terry Judd via use-livecode wrote: Some contrasting data... https://tre

Re: LC #48 @TIOBE

2019-12-10 Thread Terry Judd via use-livecode
Some contrasting data... https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=%2Fm%2F0490j1 On 11/12/19, 10:17 am, "use-livecode on behalf of Bob Sneidar via use-livecode" wrote: Nothing in space and time is linear. ;-) Bob S > On Dec 7, 2019, at 18:20 , Rich

Re: LC #48 @TIOBE

2019-12-10 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Nothing in space and time is linear. ;-) Bob S > On Dec 7, 2019, at 18:20 , Richard Gaskin via use-livecode > wrote: > > LiveCode has moved up to #48 on the TIOBE Index of programming language > popularity: > > https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/ > > It's too early to tell if this upward ra

Re: Groups in the message path: Trapping Mouseup

2019-12-10 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
Mark Waddington gave the answer if need. I really want "shared groups" and not "backgroundGroups" Then the scripts are encapsulated. I turned off backgroundBehavior on all groups. A click on top layer button (no script) now registers in the stack script with its target. I tried it, Yay! Afte

Re: Copying cards from one stack to another

2019-12-10 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 12/10/19 1:40 PM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode wrote: Of course, right after posting this, I discovered that, in the Project Browser, you can drag and drop cards from one stack to another and then saving actually saves the changes. Works in LC951rc1 and 960dp1 Still not sure why copy isn't

Windows Standalone Performance

2019-12-10 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Hi all. Just wanted to give a heads up on what I think is the greatest Windows Standalone performance killer. When I first began to develop, it was done entirely on a Mac, and before I had any thought about how a standalone would work in a multiuser environment. As such, it was easy for me t

Re: Copying cards from one stack to another

2019-12-10 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
Of course, right after posting this, I discovered that, in the Project Browser, you can drag and drop cards from one stack to another and then saving actually saves the changes. Works in LC951rc1 and 960dp1 Still not sure why copy isn't working OR why you can not use Edit > Copy and Edit >Past

Copying cards from one stack to another

2019-12-10 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
Holy Moly Batman! I was in LC9.5.1rc1 and needed to copy some cards from the substack of one mainstack stack to the substack of another main stack. I was surprised to see there appears to be not GUI IDE option to copy a card form one stack to another, not via the clipboard or by any means I ca

Re: Android Scrolling Field - 9.6.dp1 - Receives MouseUp/Down

2019-12-10 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
I think you're seeing this bug, which was fixed in 9.0.5: Without a mouseUp message, it is impossible to detect a swipe within a scroller, which was another fundamental issue that has been corrected. Users depend on swipes, and on mobile it c

Re: Java update?

2019-12-10 Thread JJS via use-livecode
You can't build for Android if you don't have Java on your machine Op 10-12-2019 om 18:04 schreef Rick Harrison via use-livecode: If you go into the terminal type; java -version That will tell you if you are running java, and what version of it you are running. Compare that to what the curren

Re: Groups in the message path: Trapping Mouseup

2019-12-10 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 12/10/19 11:39 AM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode wrote: So then to trap "the target" in the stack script, require putting pass mousedown (or mouseWhatever) in all the background groups (all of which contain their our MouseDown) Correct? Only if you want to handle th

Re: Groups in the message path: Trapping Mouseup

2019-12-10 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
So if I have a button X with a mouseDown handler in a Group Y also with a mouseDown handler and in my card script (or stack script) also have a mouseDown handler If I click on button X and I only want button X to handle the mouseDown, I do not 'pass mouseDown' in the button X mouseDown handler

Re: Groups in the message path: Trapping Mouseup

2019-12-10 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
@ Mark Waddington That's it! Thank you! If you turn 'background behavior' off, then your shared group should no longer receive messages after the card does. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe,

Re: Groups in the message path: Trapping Mouseup

2019-12-10 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
So then to trap "the target" in the stack script, require putting pass mousedown (or mouseWhatever) in all the background groups (all of which contain their our MouseDown) Correct? remember the use case: we do not want and script in *any* button or top object that receives a click or t

Re: Help Wrapping HTMLTidy in LCB

2019-12-10 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 12:28 PM Trevor DeVore wrote: > UPDATE: > > I made some progress on the HTMLTidy project and this morning Mark > Waddingham and Brian Milby helped me over the last hurdle. The code base > now has a tidyHTMLToXHTML() function which works on macOS. You can try it > out using

Re: Android Scrolling Field - 9.6.dp1 - Receives MouseUp/Down

2019-12-10 Thread Lagi Pittas via use-livecode
Hi All I haven't seen anyone else mention this problem or even get involved in a discussion here except for Bob to confirm it. It is a FUNDAMENTAL problem. @Jacque since you deploy (if memory serves) large android apps , can you confirm the error and @Panos is there a workaround or a fix coming

Re: Java update?

2019-12-10 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
I'm running Java 8 with a lower build number (211 if I remember right, but I'm not at my Mac to check right now.) Java is required to build LC apps for Android, which I do all the time. If you look in LC mobile preferences you'll see the place where you need to specify your Java installation.

Re: Java update?

2019-12-10 Thread Rick Harrison via use-livecode
If you go into the terminal type; java -version That will tell you if you are running java, and what version of it you are running. Compare that to what the current version is. Version 8 perhaps? I’m running Mojave, and my result tells me I am not running it and then gives me a dialog to visit

Re: Java update?

2019-12-10 Thread Brian Milby via use-livecode
I’m on Catalina and that is the version I installed.  I’ve only done one test Android build with it though so I don’t know if there would be any negative impact as an upgrade.  I did have to jump through the hoops to create an Oracle login. Thanks, Brian On Dec 10, 2019, 11:25 AM -0500, J. Land

Re: Java update?

2019-12-10 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
I'm running Mac OS 10.14.6 (Mojave) and the dialog popped up on my desktop while I was working in LC. I clicked the "Learn more" link in the dialog and was taken to Oracle's web site which displayed a list of changes and new features. It appeared to be a normal auto-check for updates. My main

Re: Java update?

2019-12-10 Thread Rick Harrison via use-livecode
What version of the operating system are you running? What is the source of the notification? (Is it a reliable source?) Many people turn off Java in their web-browsers to prevent trojans and malware from executing when they visit websites. We need more information before we can make a determin