Re: [Server] create stack trouble

2011-08-15 Thread Sivakatirswami
jan wrote: Storing data is an enticing idea, but flawed: stacks are not a multi-user data storage infrastructure. You are of course right for multi-user scenarios. but I beg to differ in cases where a) the data is read only for web delivery or for the majority of users b) the editors are

Re: [Server] create stack trouble

2011-08-10 Thread Björnke von Gierke
On 9 Aug 2011, at 19:20, Pierre Sahores wrote: Hi Björnke, FOR ME The main goal of using the server's stack component is to let us store our code as password protected libraries I fixed your point above. The problem is exactly that mindset. This time your user case was supported. Are

Re: [Server] create stack trouble

2011-08-10 Thread Pierre Sahores
Hello Björnke, We probably need to get in mind that desktop apps stacks and server's stacks are not dedicated to do the same jobs ! On the left, desktop apps stacks are handled in RAM as long running processes and this give us lots of possibilities, sockets management included. If you really

Re: [Server] create stack trouble

2011-08-09 Thread stephen barncard
Again, Robert I have to disagree with you about this. You seem to feel shortchanged somehow with the way stacks work on the server, yet it's really doing all it can do in that environment. What else would you want a stack to do on a server? The GUI has to be created in HTML - it's a web browser

Re: [Server] create stack trouble

2011-08-09 Thread Richard Gaskin
stephen barncard wrote: Again, Robert I have to disagree with you about this. You seem to feel shortchanged somehow with the way stacks work on the server, yet it's really doing all it can do in that environment. What else would you want a stack to do on a server? The GUI has to be created in

Re: [Server] create stack trouble

2011-08-09 Thread Björnke von Gierke
Quite simply, any new feature RunRev implements is a patch, as in patched up clothes. RunRev lacks the manpower (but not the dedication) to create fully working groundworks, like a full implementation of stacks for all platforms, a native GUI for iOS, native table fields or allowing all objects

Re: [Server] create stack trouble

2011-08-09 Thread Robert Mann
separately. Have a good day, Robert -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Server-create-stack-trouble-tp3721781p3730360.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode

Re: [Server] create stack trouble

2011-08-09 Thread Pierre Sahores
Hi Björnke, The main goal of using the server's stack component is to let us store our code as password protected libraries instead of storing it in unprotected flat text .irev components. This server's stack component is useful each time we need to install our LC-server solutions on clients

Re: [Server] create stack trouble

2011-08-09 Thread jacques CLAVEL
I agree, Pierre, Nice job from RunRev guys. Now the On-Rev client has to be updated, and all will be perfect. Jacques 2011/8/9 Pierre Sahores s...@sahores-conseil.com Hi Björnke, The main goal of using the server's stack component is to let us store our code as password protected libraries

Re: [Server] create stack trouble

2011-08-09 Thread Pierre Sahores
Hi Jacques, Stephen (Brancard) noticed some days ago that in double clicking any server's stack from within our FTP browser window, the stack will be directly opened in our LC desktop IDE. In this way, we can edit our code exactly as if the stack went stored locally and we can use the IDE

Re: [Server] create stack trouble

2011-08-08 Thread stephen barncard
of process, but not in that precise publishing situation. Or do I miss something? So yes it would be deceiving to learn stacks cannot be saved in the server environnment! -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Server-create-stack-trouble

Re: [Server] create stack trouble

2011-08-08 Thread stephen barncard
Why would one want to create a field one can't use anyway? There are probably a lot of little things in LCS that haven't been trapped as errors or to fail silently yet, but common sense can be a guide to what is and what isn't: GUI objects are not applicable in a server environment. Reading

Re: [Server] create stack trouble

2011-08-08 Thread Robert Mann
). -- and keeping in line with the original spirit of the hypercard heritage too! Now I reckon things are now usable as they are and it's a a great step already. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Server-create-stack-trouble-tp3721781p3727611.html Sent from

Re: [Server] create stack trouble

2011-08-08 Thread stephen barncard
Robert, on my installation of LIvecode Server, everything you say I've found to be true, except that I was able to use my preferred suffix .rev instead of .livecode. I'm impressed that there are so many things are *right* and *up to date* in the docs lately, imho. On this new stuff, there's sure

Re: [Server] create stack trouble

2011-08-07 Thread Martin Koob
in a database and each time a page is loaded recreate the set of stacks and cards. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Server-create-stack-trouble-tp3721781p3724846.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com

Re: [Server] create stack trouble

2011-08-07 Thread Jan Schenkel
...@lists.runrev.com Cc: Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2011 3:15 PM Subject: Re: [Server] create stack trouble I have added an enhancement request to the QCC to have 'save stack' implemented on LiveCode Server, Report #9664 Is there another way to save a stack that I am missing? Is there a reason why

Re: [Server] create stack trouble

2011-08-07 Thread Keith Clarke
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Re: [Server] create stack trouble

2011-08-07 Thread Martin Koob
and upload them but I thought what possibilities would there be if you could create and modify them on the fly in using LiveCode server. Martin -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Server-create-stack-trouble-tp3721781p3725243.html Sent from the Revolution

Re: [Server] create stack trouble

2011-08-07 Thread Björnke von Gierke
I would love to use stacks instead of files. Millions of sites work just fine saving stuff into files, despite them not being multi user save or anything weird like that. More importantly, stacks should work like stacks everywhere, and not partially on mobile, partially (but different) as

Re: [Server] create stack trouble

2011-08-07 Thread Robert Mann
in a many to many kind of process, but not in that precise publishing situation. Or do I miss something? So yes it would be deceiving to learn stacks cannot be saved in the server environnment! -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Server-create-stack-trouble