Re: validating "per use" licensing

2012-07-12 Thread Bob Sneidar
It is feasible, but I must say that when searching for software for a particular application, when I encounter a per use license, I look elsewhere. Bob On Jul 12, 2012, at 10:34 AM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: > I want people to be able to pay "per use" for the product. In this case, > it would mean

Re: validating "per use" licensing

2012-07-12 Thread Peter Haworth
Try ZygoDact, it already does all this for you. www.hyperactivesoftware.com Pete lcSQL Software On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: > I want people to be able to pay "per use" for the product. In this case, > it would mean per client file. > > My thinki

Re: validating "per use" licensing

2012-07-12 Thread Mark Wieder
Dr. Hawkins writes: > Is this a sensible approach? And and any suggestions on the hash to use? > Er... you expect that when I purchase your product I'm going to give you my social security number? I'll pass. -- Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net __

Re: validating "per use" licensing

2012-07-12 Thread stephen barncard
he said the "last four digits" of the ss# On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: > Dr. Hawkins writes: > > > Is this a sensible approach? And and any suggestions on the hash to use? > > > > Er... you expect that when I purchase your product I'm going to give you my > social securi

Re: validating "per use" licensing

2012-07-12 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: > > Er... you expect that when I purchase your product I'm going to give you > my > social security number? I'll pass. No, when you file bankrutpcy, you must include the last 4 as part of the public record. -- The Hawkins Law Firm Richard E.

Re: validating "per use" licensing

2012-07-12 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Peter Haworth wrote: > Try ZygoDact, it already does all this for you. www.hyperactivesoftware.com it's at hyperactivesw.com. There is no server at hyperactivesoftware.com . . . Thanks. But that does seem like overkill as an approach . . . At the server, logg

Re: validating "per use" licensing

2012-07-12 Thread Bob Sneidar
Mark Weider is going bankrupt? Shouldn't we help him somehow?? ;-) Bob On Jul 12, 2012, at 12:57 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: > On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: >> >> Er... you expect that when I purchase your product I'm going to give you >> my >> social security number? I'll p

Re: validating "per use" licensing

2012-07-12 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > It is feasible, but I must say that when searching for software for a > particular application, >when I encounter a per use license, I look elsewhere. This is software for which attorney licenses are typically in the $1k/year range. Each "u

Re: validating "per use" licensing

2012-07-12 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > Mark Weider is going bankrupt? Shouldn't we help him somehow?? ;-) If he moves to Nevada, I can give him a great discount. :) -- The Hawkins Law Firm Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 hawkinslawf...@gmail.com 3025 S. Maryland Parkway

Re: validating "per use" licensing

2012-07-12 Thread Richard Gaskin
Dr. Hawkins wrote: On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Er... you expect that when I purchase your product I'm going to give you my social security number? I'll pass. No, when you file bankrutpcy, you must include the last 4 as part of the public record. If the software is

Re: validating "per use" licensing

2012-07-12 Thread Magicgate Software - Skip Kimpel
I have much experience in this area of licensing. Since Dr. Hawkins works for a law firm (owns the law firm?) I would assume this piece of software is directly related to his operations... The last four digits of a social is something that his clients are willing to give him. Just had an awesome

Re: validating "per use" licensing

2012-07-12 Thread Richard Gaskin
Skip Kimpel wrote: I have much experience in this area of licensing. Since Dr. Hawkins works for a law firm (owns the law firm?) I would assume this piece of software is directly related to his operations... The last four digits of a social is something that his clients are willing to give him.

Re: validating "per use" licensing

2012-07-12 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > If the software is targeted at people who've filed bankruptcy that may work, > except that if they've filed for bankruptcy they're probably not in a > position to pay for software. ;) I'm selling to attorneys. (and, yes, years ago, I didn'

Re: validating "per use" licensing

2012-07-12 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 1:49 PM, Magicgate Software - Skip Kimpel wrote: > I have much experience in this area of licensing. Since Dr. Hawkins > works for a law firm (owns the law firm?) Yes. Years ago a predecessor to this ran on Hypercard and then SuperCard 1.5. When I returned to practice,

Re: validating "per use" licensing

2012-07-12 Thread Richard Gaskin
Dr. Hawkins wrote: Lawyers. They're a level above in justifying software theft to themselves. Joining that irony, stats from the SPA show music production software to be the second most-pirated category after games. ;) -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http

Re: validating "per use" licensing

2012-07-12 Thread Bob Sneidar
> If they want to file, they give it to the world. (twenty years ago, > the *entire* social was on many of the pleadings, including the > petition!!!) > I never thought of that! Who wants to steal the identity of a bankrupt person?? Bob ___ use-livecod

Re: validating "per use" licensing

2012-07-12 Thread Bob Sneidar
Eheh. I guess the secret to tolerating the insanity is to become one of the inmates! Bob On Jul 12, 2012, at 2:07 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Dr. Hawkins wrote: >> Lawyers. >> >> They're a level above in justifying software theft to themselves. > > Joining that irony, stats from the SPA sho

Re: validating "per use" licensing

2012-07-12 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > I never thought of that! Who wants to steal the identity of a bankrupt > person?? It took a while to occur to the courts, too. But after discharge, you have someone with no debt, and know his name, full social, place of employment . . . the

Re: validating "per use" licensing

2012-07-12 Thread Mark Wieder
D- Thursday, July 12, 2012, 1:13:51 PM, you wrote: > On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: >> Mark Weider is going bankrupt? Shouldn't we help him somehow?? ;-) > If he moves to Nevada, I can give him a great discount. > :) Oh, that sounds great. I'll pack up and move to Nevada

Re: validating "per use" licensing

2012-07-13 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 7:35 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: > > Oh, that sounds great. I'll pack up and move to Nevada so I can go > bankrupt, give you my SSN, and get a discount on your software. I'll > call when I get in. You won't even need to buy the software; I use it to file for you. :) -- The

Re: validating "per use" licensing

2012-07-14 Thread Chipp Walters
So which is it? Esquire or Doctor or Lawyer? Man, that's a lot of hats. On Friday, July 13, 2012, Dr. Hawkins wrote: > < snip > > The Hawkins Law Firm > Richard E. Hawkins, Esq > -- Chipp Walters CEO, Altuit, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-li

Re: validating "per use" licensing

2012-07-14 Thread Richmond
On 07/14/2012 03:58 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: So which is it? Esquire or Doctor or Lawyer? Man, that's a lot of hats. On Friday, July 13, 2012, Dr. Hawkins wrote: < snip > The Hawkins Law Firm Richard E. Hawkins, Esq Presumably it is "Dr Hawkins", although Dr Hawkins seems not to understa

RE: validating "per use" licensing

2012-07-14 Thread John Dixon
1 ( Esquire) (abbr.: Esq.) a title appended to a lawyer's surname. Richmond... me old mucker ...Does it really matter ? > > On 07/14/2012 03:58 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: > > So which is it? Esquire or Doctor or Lawyer? Man, that's a lot of hats. > > > > On Friday, July 13, 2012, Dr. Hawkins w

Re: validating "per use" licensing

2012-07-14 Thread Richmond
On 07/14/2012 05:23 PM, John Dixon wrote: 1 ( Esquire) (abbr.: Esq.) a title appended to a lawyer's surname. Richmond... me old mucker ...Does it really matter ? Yer right mate! Only to people who feel desperately insecure and have to bolster up their egos with fancy bits popped on the fr

Re: validating "per use" licensing

2012-07-14 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 5:58 AM, Chipp Walters wrote: > So which is it? Esquire or Doctor or Lawyer? Man, that's a lot of hats. Esquire and Lawyer are the same hat in the us. And both Dr. (Economics & Statistics) and Lawyer. But yes, I have a lot of hats :) -- The Hawkins Law Firm Richard E.

Re: validating "per use" licensing

2012-07-14 Thread Richmond
On 07/14/2012 06:25 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 5:58 AM, Chipp Walters wrote: So which is it? Esquire or Doctor or Lawyer? Man, that's a lot of hats. Esquire and Lawyer are the same hat in the us. And both Dr. (Economics & Statistics) and Lawyer. But yes, I have a lot of h

Re: validating "per use" licensing

2012-07-14 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 7:15 AM, Richmond wrote: > Presumably it is "Dr Hawkins", although Dr Hawkins seems not to understand > how > to use titles, as one only puts "Esq." (notice the full-stop) Someone lost mine while quoting. See the unquoted signature below. > after the name of somebody > w

Re: validating "per use" licensing

2012-07-14 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 8:33 AM, Richmond wrote: > Multi-Hatted you may well be, and all well and jolly that is, however, > would you that we address you thus: > > Dr Hawkins, > > Mr Hawkins, > > Attorney Hawkins, > > Advocate Hawkins, > > otherwise, or simply > > Richard ? I answer to so many d

Re: validating "per use" licensing

2012-07-14 Thread Richmond
On 07/14/2012 06:35 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 7:15 AM, Richmond wrote: Presumably it is "Dr Hawkins", although Dr Hawkins seems not to understand how to use titles, as one only puts "Esq." (notice the full-stop) Someone lost mine while quoting. See the unquoted signature

Re: validating "per use" licensing

2012-07-14 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Richmond wrote: > On 07/14/2012 06:35 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: > What is a barrister? It's a british half-a-lawyer, I think :) >I don't think we have those sort of beasts in Scotland, > although > we do have writers to the signet. Do they both give advice and ap

Re: validating "per use" licensing

2012-07-14 Thread Richmond
On 07/14/2012 08:31 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Richmond wrote: On 07/14/2012 06:35 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: What is a barrister? It's a british half-a-lawyer, I think :) I don't think we have those sort of beasts in Scotland, although we do have writers to the s

Re: validating "per use" licensing

2012-07-14 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Richmond wrote: > Aye, they do, an as far as Ah jalouse they mun put a peruke on their heids. And I thought, per Churchill, that the US and England were "two countries separated by a common language" . . . :) -- The Hawkins Law Firm Richard E. Hawkins, Esq.