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new iPhone 4s

Apple iPhone 4s-- ugh. All psyched up about the iPhone 5, and Apple lays this turd. So disappointing. Jeez, didn't take them long to screw things up now that Jobs is gone. Now, I'm considering upgrading my iPhone 4 to Android. Anyone have experience with both and can offer advice? -- Chipp Walte

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Pete, Thanks very much for your candid and non-biased review-- just what I was looking for. I'm not i treated in mobile OS wars, but am just thinking of switching to Android as I very non-plussed with the Apple iPhone 4s, and would be giving my 4 to my wife. I already own Siri, and don't really us

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Sounds great Stephen, but it doesn't replace Viagra (yet!) Joe Wilkins On Oct 4, 2011, at 12:03 PM, stephen barncard wrote: > watching apple announcement on CNN on the iPad > > Just announced: iPhone 4s > > new A5 dual core processor > 7x graphics speed > real-time rendering in a game shown

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On 10/04/2011 02:13 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: but it doesn't replace Viagra I'm sure there are some... ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription pref

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Tim Cook and Phil Schiller did a good presentation today. Cook could be mistaken as Jobs' older similarly birdlike, incredibly thin brother. one more thing: the prices: 4s 16gig - $200/2year 4s 32gig - $300/2 4s 64gig - $400/2 4 8 gig - $99/2 3Gs 8 gig "free with plan" still selling the older

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politics, religion, cheese and sex On 4 October 2011 12:19, Warren Samples wrote: > On 10/04/2011 02:13 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: > >> but it doesn't replace Viagra >> > > > I'm sure there are some... > > > Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb

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are we moderated yet? On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 4:22 PM, stephen barncard < stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com> wrote: > politics, religion, cheese and sex > > On 4 October 2011 12:19, Warren Samples wrote: > > > On 10/04/2011 02:13 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: > > > >> but it doesn't replace Viagra >

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If they had called it the iPhone 5, everyone would still be impressed. The iPhone 4 is an amazing phone, and the iPhone 4S is better in almost every way it could be. So that makes it be a bit better than you're suggesting. On Oct 4, 2011, at 10:44 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: > Apple iPhone 4s--

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On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 10:44 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: > Apple iPhone 4s-- ugh. All psyched up about the iPhone 5, and Apple lays > this turd. So disappointing. Jeez, didn't take them long to screw things up > now that Jobs is gone. > > Now, I'm considering upgrading my iPhone 4 to Android. Anyone

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why is this phone a turd, Chipp? Tell us how you really feel. I've got an "old" 3 (non-gs) now and planning an upgrade. The 3 a turd, I'm no fan-boy, but I really don't want an Android. I'm going to switch to Verizon anyway. On 4 October 2011 19:44, Chipp Walters wrote: > Apple iPhone 4s-- ugh

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C'mon guys! Haven't you been following the blogs and build up for iPhone 5? it was pretty well known there was SUPPOSED to be a 4 and a 5, only they just announced the 4. Steven, yes the iPhone is a very nice device, only this version isn't all that much different from a 4 (purely functional point

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I owned a Apple Iphone 3g and my wife owns a touch 4 and the newest touch with better video. I now own a HTC Evo (not the 3D one) with an expanded battery. I also own an Android tablet and an Ipad2. OK, where do I begin? First, I like the Ipad2 better for creating music and editing vide

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Chipp wrote: > it was pretty well known there was SUPPOSED to be a 4 and a 5, only they > just announced the 4. Supposed to be? According to whom? Apple, or the zillions of blogs and pundits and "analysts"? Don't blame Apple for not meeting your ill-informed expectations :) Gerry

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Gerry, No need to get personal. I suppose you're new about these parts. I'm asking for opinions regarding the iPhone vs Android. I certainly wasn't asking your opinion of my expectations. Clearly you're a fan of Apple. Good for you. On Tuesday, October 4, 2011, Gerry Orkin wrote: > Chipp wrote:

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I haven't used an Android but the people at work who have personal ones say they like them but find that they are buggy and need to be restarted frequently. The ones that have them like them because they can tinker more with them but even they say we shouldn't support them. It reminds me of the

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Again I request we cut back on the passive-aggressive stuff. It's just a goddamn phone. Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Pleas

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Bill, I could not disagree more. My Iphone crashed constantly and had to be rebooted all the time. My wife's BRAND NEW itouch 4 - same thing. My HTC Evo - NEVER has a problem. Never. Great battery life with a nice large battery I purchased for it. Outstanding in every way. You are a FOOL if

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Gentlemen, This thread is similar to the Windows vs. Mac debates here that sometimes got out of hand. Since Livecode supports both mobile platforms, don't you think this name-calling bullshit should stop? I spent an hour writing a 'rebuttal' and finally decided to NOT post it. It would just fan t

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My wife and I just upgraded our phones (with Verizon). We each had a Droid Eris and I have to say they sucked. I upgraded to an HTC Incredible and my wife got an iPhone 4. I am extremely happy with my Incredible - it is a huge advance over the Eris in every way. I have had it for about a month n

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Chipp If parts of your messages are off limits for a response then help me by marking them as such :) There's nothing personal about my comments. We are ALL ill-informed when it comes to speculation about unannounced products. There's all sorts of noise and nonsense in the lead up, some of it

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You and your wife are a very small sample. But I'm glad you found a phone that works for you (so have I - it's an iPhone). And honestly, arguing for the superiority of a phone based on the numbers sold is just bad science. Lot's of factors (personal preference, carrier choice, cost, product loya

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Firstly. I'm not trying to start or fan a flame war on phones. I use LiveCode because it supports all platforms. On Oct 4, 2011, at 11:12 PM, Pete wrote: > My wife and I just upgraded our phones (with Verizon). We each had a Droid > Eris and I have to say they sucked. > > I upgraded to an HTC I

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On 10/5/11 7:54 AM, "Bill Vlahos" wrote: > I haven't used an Android but the people at work who have personal ones say > they like them but find that they are buggy and need to be restarted > frequently. The ones that have them like them because they can tinker more > with them but even they say

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Hello Stephen Le 5 oct. 2011 à 08:10, stephen barncard a écrit : > > > *These are just phones*. These are NOT just phones... These are computers... and now : computers which (or who ? ... hum...) talk to us... ;-) Bon souvenir de Paris René ___ us

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Guys, I have the following machines here: iPhone 3G, iPad 1, Palm Pre2, Google Nexus S. Take the rest of the email as personal opinion, I do not claim to speak The Truth but my own experiences. === iOS === The iOS machines are very polished and built by a company that understands usability. The

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...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Chipp Walters Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 10:44 PM To: How to use LiveCode Subject: new iPhone 4s Apple iPhone 4s-- ugh. All psyched up about the iPhone 5, and Apple lays this turd. So disappointing. Jeez, didn't take them lo

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What the heck, I'll add to this. I have both an iPad 2 and a cheapo Archos 7" Android tablet. As a long-time computer user, I found iOS extremely frustrating. The beauty of Mac was always its consistency -- you always knew where the menus and other bits were. iOS is more like early Windows in

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On Oct 5, 2011, at 10:31 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: > * It requires lots of touches to do simple things. As an example if this, here's the standard built in way I've found to close a few apps (and please let me know if there is a quicker way!): iOS: double press the Home button, press and hold on

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I agree with you mostly, except being an IT guy, I know how easily people attribute any problems that arise to "the network" or to "the IT guy" and they do not need any real hard empirical data to back it up. They just "know". So let's say Apple allows apps outside their app store to be install

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On 10/5/11 11:34 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: Android: 1. Touch the Clock in the lower right. 2. In the popup that appears there are some sliders to the right. Touch those. 3. In the popup that appears, touch Settings at the bottom. 4. Touch Applications in the list on the left. 5. Touch Manage app

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For any of you that didn't spend the time to watch the 90 minute presentation yesterday, here's an 80 second version: http://gizmodo.com/5846804/the-entire-iphone-4s-keynote-in-80-seconds ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Ple

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That's a nice theory, but I find that apps such as Angry Birds can get very choppy, and closing everything else can help. I also use it when testing apps, because I want to know whether any slowness is due to the app I'm testing, and not due to any background tasks that are being run. I'm sure

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On 10/5/11 12:18 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: That's a nice theory, but I find that apps such as Angry Birds can get very choppy, and closing everything else can help. It isn't a theory. Google "android task killer necessary". But if it works for you, that's okay. The better way to manage things i

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You can reduce the first 4 steps to 1 by creating a shortcut to Running Services. Pete Molly's Revenge > You're right about most of the steps, but I can reduce the number of them a > bit. I keep the Settings app on my Home screen. > > 1. Touch Settings > 2. Touch

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On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 2:08 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > > But: you shouldn't be closing processes on Android, it's counter > productive. "Running" apps is a misnomer; they use zero resources, and the > OS will close them automatically as necessary. Jacque, Yes but Skype is an offender. Drinking

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On 10/5/11 12:56 PM, Pete wrote: You can reduce the first 4 steps to 1 by creating a shortcut to Running Services. Can I do it with native Froyo? I spent quite a while last night trying to download a third-party launcher alternative and neither AppBrain, Market, or Amazon would allow my Arch

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On 10/5/11 1:01 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 2:08 PM, J. Landman Gaywrote: But: you shouldn't be closing processes on Android, it's counter productive. "Running" apps is a misnomer; they use zero resources, and the OS will close them automatically as necessary. Jacque, Ye

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Bob Sneidar wrote: I agree with you mostly, except being an IT guy, I know how easily people attribute any problems that arise to "the network" or to "the IT guy" and they do not need any real hard empirical data to back it up. They just "know". ... Freedom comes at a price, especially if th

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Sorry Jacque, I get confused with the alpha vs numeric versions of Android (as I do with Apple OS X versions!) My phone is running 2.3.3, which I THINK is Gingerbread but not sure. Also, on the Skype issue, I've read that Skype is a huge battery hog so good to get rid of it if you're not using it

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> The cool thing is we have a choice. We can evaluate the trade-offs > inherent in the approaches offered by iOS and Android, and decide which > provides the greatest overall benefit for our own specific needs. > e > > All Hail WebOS oop

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On 10/05/2011 11:34 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: On Oct 5, 2011, at 10:31 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: * It requires lots of touches to do simple things. please let me know if there is a quicker way! Android: 1. Touch the Clock in the lower right. 2. In the popup that appears there are some slider

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Nice, I didn't know about the long press on the Home button. On my HTC Incredible, that does show the recent apps but there isn't a button to get to the Task Manager (unless I used it recently of course). I can also get a list of recent apps by pulling down the Notifications bar but, once again,

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Based on the feedback here, and knowing I can't wait another 16 months for Apple to announce a competitive phone, I visited the AT&T store today. As a side note, when Apple first introduced the iPhone 4, Android had only 9% of the smartphone market. Now, only 16 months later, it has passed Apple

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A quicker way would to use a widget, something iOS does not support. As long as we're looking at workflow and use cases, here is the only way I know how to simply add a folder to my photos collection: 1. Dock my iPad/iPhone to my desktop computer 2. Wait for it to sync, and install an OS update

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What is rate of return on iPhone 4 vs competitive solution ? And same question as it applies to an iOS app vs ? Hodie Non Cras On 2011-10-05, at 4:55 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: > Based on the feedback here, and knowing I can't wait another 16 months for > Apple to announce a competitive phone,

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And on Android, just use a filemanager to create a folder. Takes about 5 seconds. Mike On Wed, 5 Oct 2011 16:17:27 -0500, Chipp Walters wrote: > A quicker way would to use a widget, something iOS does not support. As long as we're looking at workflow and use cases, here is the only way I

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Do you mean Albums? You can touch the Album tab, Edit, New Album, then go to your photos and pick ones to add to that album. On Oct 5, 2011, at 5:17 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: > A quicker way would to use a widget, something iOS does not support. As long > as we're looking at workflow and use ca

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Chipp wrote: > here is the only way I know how to simply add a folder to my photos > collection: > > 1. Dock my iPad/iPhone to my desktop computer Really? This is how I do it: 1) Open Photos app on the device 2) Touch the Albums button 3) Touch the "Add" button 4) Name the album > 2. Wait for

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t." Don't forget, the iphone 4 has not been around for that long… Lots of people who carry contracts on their iphones still have a long time to wait before they would be able to upgrade their device.. Calling the new iPhone '4s' might just turn out to be a very clever d

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In Android's defense, they did already have the over the air system updating working. That's a nice new addition to iOS 5. Also, they come out if the blue! Acer tend to be behind others in updating their systems, so it was a surprise when I got given 3.2 the other day. On Oct 5, 2011, at 5:39

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No such feature on my iPad2 or my iPhone4. You must be using a much newer iOS than I- (perhaps beta). As I said, I tend more towards the, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" theory when working with iOS devices as I (and some of my Windows cohorts) had a very precarious time installing new version

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people > who carry contracts on their iphones still have a long time to wait before > they would be able to upgrade their device.. Calling the new iPhone '4s' > might just turn out to be a very clever decision economically since a lot of > people might be 'miffed'

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Hmmm. A quick search on this issue shows: http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop_uri=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xlzh856Guxg&v=Xlzh856Guxg&gl=US I'm still not sure this feature is available on non beta versions of iOS. Do you know? On Wednesday, October 5, 2011, Gerry Orkin wrote: > Chipp wrot

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On 10/5/11 4:39 PM, Gerry Orkin wrote: At least Apple releases OS updates on a regular basis. On Android many devices are stuck on old versions of the OS, never to be updated to take advantage of the (supposed) benefits of the platform. Definitely a down side for Android. I'm stuck at 2.2, man

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Chipp In what way is your refusal to keep your iOS devices (and knowledge of their capabilities) up-to-date a problem with the iPhone? By your own measure iOS is (apparently) broken, and yet you refuse to fix the problem because "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"? And it well might be a featur

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On 10/5/11 4:57 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: Just wondering, how does one share a Rev app on Android? I know it's a huge pain to ad hoc share an app on iTunes-- I have done that before. You can share Android apps like any file. Email, Dropbox, internet download, cabled computer transfer, and with

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Set up to do that on iOS took me less than an hour, and it takes a new ad hoc user about 10 minutes to add themselves to the distribution group once I've issued an invite. Actually distributing an ad hoc build takes me...oh...5 minutes? A huge pain, I agree... Gerry On 06/10/2011, at 8:57 AM,

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For you, maybe. Here's how I build for my customers: Mac, PC, and soon, Android: Here's the app. Don't worry about any sort of license. And.. don't worry about updates. We use our own self-updating architecture, refined over hundreds of apps and thousands of instances, to instantly update your ap

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I don't use enterprise distribution so I can't comment on that - it does sound a pain, and I'm not defending it - read my message again. My point was that your problems with that have NO bearing on whether the iPhone is or is not a better choice for typical users. As for my method of distribut

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How are you updating your apps? Do you users automatically receive updates every time they launch their app? I have been trying to update my iPad for 2+ hours now, and hopefully it will be done soon and I'll have the new "add folder" feature (or is it on beta software only?). And THAT is the reaso

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Just updated my iPad to the latest iOS and there's not any "New Album" feature. You must be using a developer beta version. Chipp Walters CEO, Shafer Walters Group, Inc On Oct 5, 2011, at 4:38 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: > Do you mean Albums? You can touch the Album tab, Edit, New Album, then go

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You should look forward to another couple of update hours on the 12th. On Oct 5, 2011, at 11:20 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: > Just updated my iPad to the latest iOS and there's not any "New Album" > feature. You must be using a developer beta version. _

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> How are you updating your apps? Do you users automatically receive updates > every time they launch their app? Yes. I have about 45 users using a custom app that downloads updates from my own server on startup. The mechanism took a day or two to work out but it works flawlessly. > I have

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Yup. Chris had mentioned to me earlier it's a good idea to update everything now, so the iOS5 update would go more smoothly-- as skipping versions doesn't get tested as much. Chipp Walters CEO, Shafer Walters Group, Inc On Oct 5, 2011, at 10:31 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: > You should look forwa

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On Oct 5, 2011, at 10:49 PM, Gerry Orkin wrote: > >> How are you updating your apps? Do you users automatically receive updates >> every time they launch their app? > > Yes. I have about 45 users using a custom app that downloads updates from my > own server on startup. The mechanism took a d

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Howdy, Chipp, I'm going to share this with you and anyone else in case it may be useful. Having a firm conviction that I should ultimately control any hardware I purchase, and also interested in potential bottlenecks of Apple's distribution system, I searched some time ago and saw this: htt