Re: validating per use licensing

2012-07-14 Thread Chipp Walters
So which is it? Esquire or Doctor or Lawyer? Man, that's a lot of hats. On Friday, July 13, 2012, Dr. Hawkins wrote: snip The Hawkins Law Firm Richard E. Hawkins, Esq -- Chipp Walters CEO, Altuit, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list

Re: validating per use licensing

2012-07-14 Thread Richmond
On 07/14/2012 03:58 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: So which is it? Esquire or Doctor or Lawyer? Man, that's a lot of hats. On Friday, July 13, 2012, Dr. Hawkins wrote: snip The Hawkins Law Firm Richard E. Hawkins, Esq Presumably it is Dr Hawkins, although Dr Hawkins seems not to understand

RE: validating per use licensing

2012-07-14 Thread John Dixon
1 ( Esquire) (abbr.: Esq.) a title appended to a lawyer's surname. Richmond... me old mucker ...Does it really matter ? On 07/14/2012 03:58 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: So which is it? Esquire or Doctor or Lawyer? Man, that's a lot of hats. On Friday, July 13, 2012, Dr. Hawkins wrote:

Re: validating per use licensing

2012-07-14 Thread Richmond
On 07/14/2012 05:23 PM, John Dixon wrote: 1 ( Esquire) (abbr.: Esq.) a title appended to a lawyer's surname. Richmond... me old mucker ...Does it really matter ? Yer right mate! Only to people who feel desperately insecure and have to bolster up their egos with fancy bits popped on the

Re: validating per use licensing

2012-07-14 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 5:58 AM, Chipp Walters ch...@chipp.com wrote: So which is it? Esquire or Doctor or Lawyer? Man, that's a lot of hats. Esquire and Lawyer are the same hat in the us. And both Dr. (Economics Statistics) and Lawyer. But yes, I have a lot of hats :) -- The Hawkins Law

Re: validating per use licensing

2012-07-14 Thread Richmond
On 07/14/2012 06:25 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 5:58 AM, Chipp Walters ch...@chipp.com wrote: So which is it? Esquire or Doctor or Lawyer? Man, that's a lot of hats. Esquire and Lawyer are the same hat in the us. And both Dr. (Economics Statistics) and Lawyer. But yes, I

Re: validating per use licensing

2012-07-14 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 7:15 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: Presumably it is Dr Hawkins, although Dr Hawkins seems not to understand how to use titles, as one only puts Esq. (notice the full-stop) Someone lost mine while quoting. See the unquoted signature below. after the

Re: validating per use licensing

2012-07-14 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 8:33 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: Multi-Hatted you may well be, and all well and jolly that is, however, would you that we address you thus: Dr Hawkins, Mr Hawkins, Attorney Hawkins, Advocate Hawkins, otherwise, or simply Richard ? I

Re: validating per use licensing

2012-07-14 Thread Richmond
On 07/14/2012 06:35 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 7:15 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: Presumably it is Dr Hawkins, although Dr Hawkins seems not to understand how to use titles, as one only puts Esq. (notice the full-stop) Someone lost mine while quoting. See

Re: validating per use licensing

2012-07-14 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/14/2012 06:35 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: What is a barrister? It's a british half-a-lawyer, I think :) I don't think we have those sort of beasts in Scotland, although we do have writers to the signet. Do they

Re: validating per use licensing

2012-07-14 Thread Richmond
On 07/14/2012 08:31 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/14/2012 06:35 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: What is a barrister? It's a british half-a-lawyer, I think :) I don't think we have those sort of beasts in Scotland, although

Re: validating per use licensing

2012-07-14 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: Aye, they do, an as far as Ah jalouse they mun put a peruke on their heids. And I thought, per Churchill, that the US and England were two countries separated by a common language . . . :) -- The Hawkins Law Firm

Re: validating per use licensing

2012-07-13 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 7:35 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Oh, that sounds great. I'll pack up and move to Nevada so I can go bankrupt, give you my SSN, and get a discount on your software. I'll call when I get in. You won't even need to buy the software; I use it to file for

validating per use licensing

2012-07-12 Thread Dr. Hawkins
I want people to be able to pay per use for the product. In this case, it would mean per client file. My thinking is that I embed a large random string in the source code of their copy, and keep a copy of the string myself. When a license is purchased, it would be for a particular last name and

Re: validating per use licensing

2012-07-12 Thread Bob Sneidar
It is feasible, but I must say that when searching for software for a particular application, when I encounter a per use license, I look elsewhere. Bob On Jul 12, 2012, at 10:34 AM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: I want people to be able to pay per use for the product. In this case, it would mean per

Re: validating per use licensing

2012-07-12 Thread Peter Haworth
Try ZygoDact, it already does all this for you. www.hyperactivesoftware.com Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Dr. Hawkins doch...@gmail.com wrote: I want people to be able to pay per use for the product. In this case, it would mean per client file.

Re: validating per use licensing

2012-07-12 Thread Mark Wieder
Dr. Hawkins dochawk@... writes: Is this a sensible approach? And and any suggestions on the hash to use? Er... you expect that when I purchase your product I'm going to give you my social security number? I'll pass. -- Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net

Re: validating per use licensing

2012-07-12 Thread stephen barncard
he said the last four digits of the ss# On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.netwrote: Dr. Hawkins dochawk@... writes: Is this a sensible approach? And and any suggestions on the hash to use? Er... you expect that when I purchase your product I'm going to

Re: validating per use licensing

2012-07-12 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Er... you expect that when I purchase your product I'm going to give you my social security number? I'll pass. No, when you file bankrutpcy, you must include the last 4 as part of the public record. -- The Hawkins

Re: validating per use licensing

2012-07-12 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com wrote: Try ZygoDact, it already does all this for you. www.hyperactivesoftware.com it's at hyperactivesw.com. There is no server at hyperactivesoftware.com . . . Thanks. But that does seem like overkill as an approach . . . At

Re: validating per use licensing

2012-07-12 Thread Bob Sneidar
Mark Weider is going bankrupt? Shouldn't we help him somehow?? ;-) Bob On Jul 12, 2012, at 12:57 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Er... you expect that when I purchase your product I'm going to give you my social security

Re: validating per use licensing

2012-07-12 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: It is feasible, but I must say that when searching for software for a particular application, when I encounter a per use license, I look elsewhere. This is software for which attorney licenses are typically in the $1k/year

Re: validating per use licensing

2012-07-12 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: Mark Weider is going bankrupt? Shouldn't we help him somehow?? ;-) If he moves to Nevada, I can give him a great discount. :) -- The Hawkins Law Firm Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 hawkinslawf...@gmail.com 3025 S.

Re: validating per use licensing

2012-07-12 Thread Richard Gaskin
Dr. Hawkins wrote: On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Mark Wieder mwieder at ahsoftware.net wrote: Er... you expect that when I purchase your product I'm going to give you my social security number? I'll pass. No, when you file bankrutpcy, you must include the last 4 as part of the public

Re: validating per use licensing

2012-07-12 Thread Magicgate Software - Skip Kimpel
I have much experience in this area of licensing. Since Dr. Hawkins works for a law firm (owns the law firm?) I would assume this piece of software is directly related to his operations... The last four digits of a social is something that his clients are willing to give him. Just had an awesome

Re: validating per use licensing

2012-07-12 Thread Richard Gaskin
Skip Kimpel wrote: I have much experience in this area of licensing. Since Dr. Hawkins works for a law firm (owns the law firm?) I would assume this piece of software is directly related to his operations... The last four digits of a social is something that his clients are willing to give

Re: validating per use licensing

2012-07-12 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: If the software is targeted at people who've filed bankruptcy that may work, except that if they've filed for bankruptcy they're probably not in a position to pay for software. ;) I'm selling to attorneys. (and,

Re: validating per use licensing

2012-07-12 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 1:49 PM, Magicgate Software - Skip Kimpel s...@magicgate.com wrote: I have much experience in this area of licensing. Since Dr. Hawkins works for a law firm (owns the law firm?) Yes. Years ago a predecessor to this ran on Hypercard and then SuperCard 1.5. When I

Re: validating per use licensing

2012-07-12 Thread Richard Gaskin
Dr. Hawkins wrote: Lawyers. They're a level above in justifying software theft to themselves. Joining that irony, stats from the SPA show music production software to be the second most-pirated category after games. ;) -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting:

Re: validating per use licensing

2012-07-12 Thread Bob Sneidar
If they want to file, they give it to the world. (twenty years ago, the *entire* social was on many of the pleadings, including the petition!!!) I never thought of that! Who wants to steal the identity of a bankrupt person?? Bob ___ use-livecode

Re: validating per use licensing

2012-07-12 Thread Bob Sneidar
Eheh. I guess the secret to tolerating the insanity is to become one of the inmates! Bob On Jul 12, 2012, at 2:07 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Dr. Hawkins wrote: Lawyers. They're a level above in justifying software theft to themselves. Joining that irony, stats from the SPA show music

Re: validating per use licensing

2012-07-12 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: I never thought of that! Who wants to steal the identity of a bankrupt person?? It took a while to occur to the courts, too. But after discharge, you have someone with no debt, and know his name, full social, place of

Re: validating per use licensing

2012-07-12 Thread Mark Wieder
D- Thursday, July 12, 2012, 1:13:51 PM, you wrote: On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: Mark Weider is going bankrupt? Shouldn't we help him somehow?? ;-) If he moves to Nevada, I can give him a great discount. :) Oh, that sounds great. I'll pack up and move