It's not documented, but it is used in the MetaCard IDE (and I assume the
RevIDE as well)...
Cool stuff, huh?
:-)
Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/
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...is coming to Malta for the European Rev Conference
14-15-16 November 2004 in Malta.
Dan Shafer will be available for discussions, give a talk,
answer questions, and will be part of what is shaping
up to be a great conference.
Malte Brill, Richard Gaskin, Klaus Major, Kevin Miller, Frederic
Le 29-juil.-04, à 19:30, Scott Rossi a écrit :
1) I assume that your bibliothèque library is the first library in
iTunes,
so you should be able to do this:
get name of every track of playlist 1
2) I don't know if there's a way to get multiple properties of all
tracks.
AppleScript is very
Hi Jaque and all,
Malte, your demo thingy is amazing.
Thanks a lot. :-)
It was an early Test for libRMC. Actually I didn´t want to release it too
early, but I am so eager being on Malta that I couldn´t resist. Doing the
animation took 5 Minutes. 15 Minutes for Photoshop and 20 for the Music.
From: Malte Brill
Subject: Re: Another dumb-dumb question
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 02:56:14 -0700
-- snip
Back to topic. It doesnt seem possible to upload password protected
stacks.
Or am I doing something wrong? Maybe it is not wanted (and I could
Hi wouter,
If your nice demo is an uploaded demo (and no link)
Oh! one can simply post links there? I definitely need to play more with it.
:-)
then you also
succeeded in uploading your password protected lib.
If the above is true then a not password protected wrapper (like an
installer
Hi Alex,
I was browsing around the User Spaces, and played your Address Book example.
When I closed the window, it asked Do you want to save?, I said No - and
it quit all the way out of Revolution. I'm not sure if it should do that or
not - the other stacks I've Played so far didn't.
Does that
Oops Sarah,
I use an undocumented feature of the revXMLText (not revXMLTree!) with a third
parameter with
value TRUE in order to get the formatted xml:
put revXMLText(treeID[[,startNode],formatted]) into tFormattedXML
I have probably found the undocumented features by analysing the script of
I am really stoked to get a chance to meet some of my fellow
Revolutionaries in Europe. And Malta looks like it might be almost as
beautiful as Monterey! :-D
We're gonna have some serious fun.
Dan
On Jul 30, 2004, at 1:06 AM, sims wrote:
...is coming to Malta for the European Rev Conference
Stephen;
Best of luck with your plans!
RE: your Preceptor Tools. Will I be able to sell something created with them
(business lic) at some point in the future? When we last talked you were not
sure about granting a business lic. Because you thought that would be
required to support it. Are these
On 7/30/04 4:34 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote:
The lock messages command does not stop all messaging. It mostly
only stops the navigation messages -- such as openCard, openStack,
preOpenCard, etc.
This is not true. The lock messages command stops all messages that
are not sent from the current
Ken-
Thursday, July 29, 2004, 11:37:15 PM, you wrote:
KR It's not documented, but it is used in the MetaCard IDE (and I assume the
KR RevIDE as well)...
KR Cool stuff, huh?
Very cool. Now that I know about it, I started poking around in the
error handler code and found it being used. So even
Have a look at the openStacks function, this should be the solution to
your problem
Thierry
On Friday, Jul 30, 2004, at 19:42 Europe/Paris, Frank D. Engel, Jr.
wrote:
Is there any easy way to determine through Transcript code if a
particular substack of my main stack is currently open?
Thank
Yes, and it shows me an easier way to do something else too ;-)
Thank you! That's exactly what I was looking for.
On Jul 30, 2004, at 13:54, Thierry Arbellot wrote:
Have a look at the openStacks function, this should be the solution to
your problem
Thierry
On Friday, Jul 30, 2004, at 19:42
On Jul 30, 2004, at 5:06 AM, sims wrote:
...is coming to Malta for the European Rev Conference
14-15-16 November 2004 in Malta.
Dan Shafer will be available for discussions, give a talk,
answer questions, and will be part of what is shaping
up to be a great conference.
Malte Brill, Richard Gaskin,
Greetings...
A couple of years ago, I dealt with all this cross-platform font stuff. I
got so tired of trying to work it out that I finally came up with a solution
that has worked perfectly ever since. What did I do you ask? Well, it
wasn't cheep, but I hired a fontographer to build two font
On Jul 30, 2004, at 11:49 AM, Malte Brill wrote:
Hi Mark,
My only question is why do all this inside Rev?
I want to be able to play back modules from within rev. I only need
minimal
control like starting and stopping. This could reduce filesize
enormously
when you want to deliver via the web.
On Jul 30, 2004, at 1:27 PM, Dan Shafer wrote:
I am really stoked to get a chance to meet some of my fellow
Revolutionaries in Europe. And Malta looks like it might be almost
as beautiful as Monterey! :-D
We're gonna have some serious fun.
Dan
Dan,
and maybe there they don't speak spanish with
On Friday, July 30, 2004, at 11:11 AM, Andre Garzia wrote:
So can you please point me to the cheapest way to get to malta? Also
I'll probably arrive some days early to enjoy more the trip as I did
on Revolution Masters Sumit.
Thanks!
andre
Get a boat... take the Magellan route (**)
On Friday, July 30, 2004, at 11:17 AM, Andre Garzia wrote:
I look forward to meet you there, even if I have to hijack some ferry
boat here and make a two month trip (three for I'll get lost).
Andre
Oh! you beat me by two minutes...
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use-revolution
On 7/30/04 4:56 AM, Malte Brill wrote:
When I get away from blocks I hopefully get back to work. fg
Remember RoofRats (an after dark game)?
RoofRats was what made me write Blocks. I practically wore out my copy
of RoofRats, but I didn't like the silly cartoon characters and I wanted
to win more
I hired a fontographer to build two font families
Just thought I would share what I did.
Dan,
By share, might that include making these available at a reasonable price?
You could name the font family appropriately-- Dan san-serif bold for
example ;)
Marty Knapp
At 19:54 29/07/2004 -0400, Marian Petrides wrote:
Oops. That stack wasn't really intended for public consumption. I was
just testing the upload, download and delete processes but found I
couldn't delete it from my user space.
Oops - I realized that later when I caught up with all the email
Mark,
I thought about that, but my old fiberglass 18 feet boat is not up to
the task, and also my sailing license (don't know how they are called
in the U.S.) says I am allowed to sail on abridged waters, meaning
hey-kid-don't-sail-to-far-from-guanabara-bay-that's-dangerous-enough-
already,
Yeah. It is a bit of a nuisance if I inadvertently hit the close box
and the IDE quits. But I know better (and no one else was really
intended to use the IDE to access that particular stack).
M
On Jul 30, 2004, at 2:42 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote:
I kind of disagree. I don't think an application
On Friday, July 30, 2004, at 11:37 AM, Andre Garzia wrote:
Mark,
I thought about that, but my old fiberglass 18 feet boat is not up to
the task, and also my sailing license (don't know how they are
called in the U.S.) says I am allowed to sail on abridged waters,
meaning
At 14:45 30/07/2004 -0400, Marian Petrides wrote:
Yeah. It is a bit of a nuisance if I inadvertently hit the close box and
the IDE quits. But I know better (and no one else was really intended to
use the IDE to access that particular stack).
OK - I think I'm going to go ahead and enter it as a
Is there anyone here on this listserve that lives near Carlsbad, CA? If so,
and you do contracting work, I may have a contracting job for you. It
hasn't been finalized yet, but it involves passing XML codes back and forth between
a Mac computer and fiber-optic Westell routers. This job
Stephen;
Just to clarify my last post. What I was asking is if the tools would be
released as open source so further development work could be done.
Dave
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Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 12:58 PM
On Jul 30, 2004, at 3:22 PM, Mark Brownell wrote:
Oh! you beat me by two minutes...
eheheh I am a quick typer, and also keen on typos too! (I can get the
typos part thru by saying I am brazilian and that I don't really know
english). You must meet dan, he is taller than me and much funnier! :D
Hi,
Does anyone else get this? Are we supposed to be getting this error
message?
executing internal 12:16:00 PM
TypeHandler: Running low on memory, script aborted
Object revdebugger
Lineif item 1 of pWhatError3 is not empty and item 1 of pWhatError3 is
not a number then -- user
Hi Dave,
This is an interesting thought. I might consider something along these
lines. I am not all that familiar with the how to' s of such a
distribution scheme.
At present PreceptorTools is only available as freeware to teachers and
hobbyists. Offering a business class license would
I've gotten that in other places in 2.5 as well, like simply changing
tools...
Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Judy Perry
Sent:
Ken,
Yes -- put in trash or recyle bin.
Maybe we could get them to add a trash or recycle keyword?
-- Frank
Web Photos Pro: Software for Photo Bloggers and Other Photo Power Users
See us on the web at http://www.webphotospro.com/
On Jul 30, 2004, at 12:03 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
From: Ken
On 7/30/04 2:04 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote:
At 14:45 30/07/2004 -0400, Marian Petrides wrote:
Yeah. It is a bit of a nuisance if I inadvertently hit the close box
and the IDE quits. But I know better (and no one else was really
intended to use the IDE to access that particular stack).
OK - I think
On 7/30/04 2:17 PM, Judy Perry wrote:
Hi,
Does anyone else get this? Are we supposed to be getting this error
message?
executing internal 12:16:00 PM
TypeHandler: Running low on memory, script aborted
Object revdebugger
Lineif item 1 of pWhatError3 is not empty and item 1 of
Dan
How do you install them with a Rev app? If that were possible, I think
one could do that with other fonts.
Dan
(nice name, BTW).
:-D
On Jul 30, 2004, at 11:14 AM, Dan Friedman wrote:
Greetings...
A couple of years ago, I dealt with all this cross-platform font
stuff. I
got so tired of
I get it often as well.
Usually comes after making a change in a script, then saving.
If I click the debug button, it goes to what appears to be Rev engine code -
but seldom to the same place.
I never encountered this before 2.5b.
Paul Looney
___
Marian,
It's bug
http://www.runrev.com/revolution/developers/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?
id=1856, please vote for it.
The characteristics are this:
1. create a bunch of different controls (fields, labels, checkboxes,
etc.) and set them all to Arial 12 (not necessary, but you can see the
On Jul 28, 2004, at 11:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Message: 5
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 13:12:57 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Cross-platform fonts...what is everyone else doing?
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Obviously
Actually I think it's 32000. That was the max size of a QuickDraw
Grafport. I've submitted a bug report/enhancement request -- please
vote for
http://www.runrev.com/revolution/developers/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?
id=1856
-- Frank
Web Photos Pro: Software for Photo Bloggers and Other
And sometimes I get a backscript error -- but I haven't used any...
Judy
On Fri, 30 Jul 2004, J. Landman Gay wrote:
On 7/30/04 2:17 PM, Judy Perry wrote:
Hi,
Does anyone else get this? Are we supposed to be getting this error
message?
executing internal 12:16:00 PM
Dan,
1. Did you make your clients install the fonts? If so, how did you do
it?
2. Would you be interested in licensing the fonts?
-- Frank
Web Photos Pro: Software for Photo Bloggers and Other Photo Power Users
See us on the web at http://www.webphotospro.com/
On Jul 30, 2004, at 3:06 PM,
Hi,
For everyone who was interested, made suggestions and comments, and looked
over my project, a big thank you!
I have uploaded it to the User Space. It is a very basic intro to the
Rev/HC model (stacks, cards, buttons, etc.) and a intro to mouse events.
It is ~6 MB.
Further suggestions,
At 15:11 30/07/2004 -0500, J. Landman Gay wrote:
On 7/30/04 2:04 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote:
OK - I think I'm going to go ahead and enter it as a bug. If the RunRev
guys decide to just close it behaving as intended that'll be OK (I
guess), but at least the question will have been raised and
sez [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
A couple of years ago, I dealt with all this cross-platform font stuff. I
got so tired of trying to work it out that I finally came up with a solution
that has worked perfectly ever since. What did I do you ask? Well, it
wasn't cheep, but I hired a fontographer to build
On Jul 30, 2004, at 5:24 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote:
As an experienced user of IDEs/debuggers for various languages, I'd
say nothing that an application being run under the IDE does should
cause the IDE to quit;
FWIW - Director does this (closes the IDE) if the quit command is
used. Using halt in
On Jul 30, 2004, at 5:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I can't find a way to get it from the Bitstream
website, but you can download Mac Classic, Mac OS X, Windows, and
Linux versions
of Vera from [http://kitschparade.ath.cx/vera.php].
Thanks, I've never actually found the way to download this
Me too ! Previously reported to Tuviah.
Le 30 juil. 04, à 21:47, Ken Ray a écrit :
I've gotten that in other places in 2.5 as well, like simply changing
tools...
Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/
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From:
On Jul 30, 2004, at 2:55 PM, Troy Rollins wrote:
On Jul 30, 2004, at 5:24 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote:
As an experienced user of IDEs/debuggers for various languages, I'd
say nothing that an application being run under the IDE does should
cause the IDE to quit;
FWIW - Director does this (closes the
My immediate response to the change from grabber hand to arrow for the
browse cursor was that I didn't like it, but I thought I might get used
to it. However, now that I try to use someone else's stack (Judy's
Intro to Rev), I know for sure: I HATE IT!!
Seriously, I find it very disorienting
In a message dated 7/30/04 3:42:54 PM,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I hired a fontographer to build two font families (plain,
bold, italic, bold-italic) for me. A serif, and a san-serif.
-- yes, and I even did that once or twice during my fog era (eons ago) ;-) I
am still at it with other
On Jul 30, 2004, at 6:38 PM, Marian Petrides wrote:
Seriously, I find it very disorienting to be browsing through a stack
using an arrow rather than the traditional grabber hand.
RunRev: Please consider going back to the old icon. Thanks.
I'd never take away freedom of choice, but if they put
But there is some difference of opinion on whether this is a bug or a
feature.
OK, here is one example off the top of my head that should decide this...an
HTML editor.
Bug.
It should at least be an option...
JR
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 23:17:13 -0500
From: J. Landman Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Jul 30, 2004, at 6:18 PM, Trevor DeVore wrote:
If you don't want to quit in the development environment just use this
line:
if environment() development then quit
Exactly.
--
Troy
RPSystems, Ltd.
http://www.rpsystems.net
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In a message dated 7/30/04 6:40:26 PM,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Does anyone know if it's possible to add the font to a standalone and
have RunRev use it automatically, i.e. without requiring a separate
installation procedure?
-- since apple has moved to a fully binary format for fonts on
At 15:18 30/07/2004 -0700, Trevor DeVore wrote:
On Jul 30, 2004, at 2:55 PM, Troy Rollins wrote:
FWIW - Director does this (closes the IDE) if the quit command is used.
Using halt in Director stops the movie, but does not quit the IDE. So
to me, it doesn't look like a bug, it just looks like
On Jul 30, 2004, at 4:12 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote:
If you don't want to quit in the development environment just use
this line:
if environment() development then quit
It's not a question of avoiding it in the stack - it's whether or not
an IDE should allow itself to be killed off by the
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri Jul 30, 2004 11:43:20 PM Australia/Melbourne
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: padding out revXMLText
Reply-To: How to use Revolution [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Oops Sarah,
I use an undocumented feature of the revXMLText (not revXMLTree!) with
a third parameter with
On Jul 30, 2004, at 7:24 PM, Mark Brownell wrote:
So I finally figured out how to use bugzilla from the Rev website. So
what's the policy on requesting people vote for a feature? I mean if
they wanted to how would they even know the feature request even
exists? [1926] ?
So far as I know, there
I agree. I really don't like it. Plus, my first response was that the
arrow on the left was a normal selection/execution tool and that the
second was maybe a resizing tool...
Just my two small monetary units...
Judy
On Fri, 30 Jul 2004, Marian Petrides wrote:
My immediate response to the
At 16:24 30/07/2004 -0700, Mark Brownell wrote:
Hi,
So I finally figured out how to use bugzilla from the Rev website. So
what's the policy on requesting people vote for a feature? I mean if they
wanted to how would they even know the feature request even exists? [1926] ?
Here's the approach I
On Friday, July 30, 2004, at 04:40 PM, Troy Rollins wrote:
By the way, what's bug 1926 all about? ;-)
--
Troy
When I first came on this list and tried to see if I could create a
pull-parser several people here directed me to offset() and regEx
functions using matchtext(). I did some testing
Yeah... but.. the hand's more obvious as to its function. With two arrows
that differ only ever so slightly in appearance but markedly in action,
'twould be better, methinks, to have a markedly different appearance so
that the user doesn't have to do the mouseover hover to figure out which
is
On Friday, July 30, 2004, at 05:14 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote:
1. write a stack that searches bugzilla for enhancement requests
needing votes
1a. add some cool music or graphic effects
1b. give it a name that will attract people
2. make it display the bugs and their voting status in some clever way
Hello there list,
I need to determine the percentage of the scroll of a group based on
the current hScroll. I am scaling graphics in a group (thus changing
the formattedWidth) and need to set the hScroll to the value that will
keep the same objects centered in the viewable area of the group
On Jul 30, 2004, at 8:09 PM, Judy Perry wrote:
Yeah... but.. the hand's more obvious as to its function. With two
arrows
that differ only ever so slightly in appearance but markedly in action,
'twould be better, methinks, to have a markedly different appearance so
that the user doesn't have to
On Jul 30, 2004, at 8:08 PM, Mark Brownell wrote:
When I first came on this list and tried to see if I could create a
pull-parser several people here directed me to offset() and regEx
functions using matchtext(). I did some testing and came up with a few
working functions that were just a
On 7/30/04 8:59 PM, Troy Rollins wrote:
On Jul 30, 2004, at 9:26 PM, Marian Petrides wrote:
But I see your point, too. Perhaps we don't really want users to
think stack but rather to think professionally-looking mainstream
app. Now, I am truly confused. ;-)
Well, if it helps, Kevin Miller
Another way to handle it would be to retain the mickey hand during
development and then allow the user to specify when building a
standalone whether to keep it or not. It would be very simple change;
if the hand cursor isn't available, Rev uses the system arrow by
default. The only thing you
On Jul 30, 2004, at 10:47 PM, Marian Petrides wrote:
Ayup. That's where my conditioning came from, not Hypercard per se but
from browsers. That makes MUCH more sense. I didn't think I spent
that much time in HyperCard environments.
True, browsers do, but applications don't, certainly not over
On Jul 30, 2004, at 10:50 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
Another way to handle it would be to retain the mickey hand during
development and then allow the user to specify when building a
standalone whether to keep it or not. It would be very simple change;
if the hand cursor isn't available, Rev
I like this idea, for two reasons -- it makes the two cursors visually
distinct during dev AND it allows developers to use the hand where they
feel it would be useful.
FWIW...
Judy
On Fri, 30 Jul 2004, J. Landman Gay wrote:
I agree. I have to keep looking at the tool palette to know which
Yes, I can see where you are coming from... I'd just like to see the hand
retained as an option for where it is useful... but probably not as the
default, for the reasons you have noted.
Judy
On Fri, 30 Jul 2004, Troy Rollins wrote:
True, browsers do, but applications don't, certainly not over
On 7/30/04 10:01 PM, Judy Perry wrote:
I like this idea, for two reasons -- it makes the two cursors visually
distinct during dev AND it allows developers to use the hand where they
feel it would be useful.
Now that I look again, the beta does have the little cross on the cursor
itself. I just
On Jul 30, 2004, at 11:20 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
Now that I look again, the beta does have the little cross on the
cursor itself. I just have to remember to look for it. At any rate,
they are modestly different.
REALLY?
I hadn't noticed that.
Probably similar to the issue I have with the
On Jul 30, 2004, at 11:20 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
Now that I look again, the beta does have the little cross on the
cursor itself. I just have to remember to look for it. At any rate,
they are modestly different.
OK. I looked. 8-)
Works for me!
--
Troy
RPSystems, Ltd.
http://www.rpsystems.net
Yeah, sorry... my mind was thinking more about the tools palette.
But this has me thinking as a teacher of game dev -- what cursor to use,
then, to indicate 'magic' or clickable areas? Come to think of it, even
browsers use the 'Mickey' hand to indicate clickability... maybe going
back to the HC
On Friday, July 30, 2004, at 05:59 PM, Troy Rollins wrote:
For those of us who aren't familiar with the term pull-parser, I'll
ask some indulgence. Like most of us, I parse a lot of string content,
and I'm familiar with a number of models for parsing XML content, for
instance. But, what
Marian Petrides wrote:
Another way to handle it would be to retain the mickey hand during
development and then allow the user to specify when building a
standalone whether to keep it or not. It would be very simple change; if
the hand cursor isn't available, Rev uses the system arrow by
On Jul 30, 2004, at 11:48 PM, Mark Brownell wrote:
So...
These new split functions would allow us to set our own rules for
next(), nextTag(), and nextText() while streaming fragments out of of
full XML documents. This is because we would have high speed functions
to pull data out of large
On Jul 31, 2004, at 12:09 AM, Troy Rollins wrote:
Very interesting. You certainly are quite the evangelist for the
merits of pull-parsing. I read the reference docs, but I have to
admit, I'm not the parsing method connoisseur I suppose I should be.
I've always used the whatever works approach.
Thanks Troy! Very informative!
Troy Rollins wrote:
FWIW - if anyone is interested, this document, linked from one of the
links Mark provided, probably offers the clearest definitions of the
various parsing types I've seen so far -
http://otn.oracle.com/oramag/oracle/03-sep/o53devxml.html
Hi,
Simple question with a simple answer probably.
How do I get the window name(title/label) to display in Unicode?(or for
that matter in other specialty fonts which keyboard layout is not
standard eg Greek) Is this a function of the OS rather than scriptable
from within RR?
The new properties
Dan,
I don't actually use rev as my installer. I wouldn't trust Rev (or my
coding) to touch someone's system... to many things could go wrong
(especially on Windoz!)
To install on OS 7/8/9, I use StuffIt InstallerMaker from Aladdin Systems,
Inc. For OSX, I use Apple's PackageMaker. For
Inc. For OSX, I use Apple's PackageMaker. For Windows, I use
InstallShield Express (www.installshield.com).
I just wanted to mention 1 program that I use for making Installers on Windows. It's
called Inno Setup. It is used by MANY major companies for their installers, it is
customizable
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