You can't format the cells of a table individually. An entire field
can be set using the Text menu, and individual sections can be set as
well, but right or center alignment of data in the cells of a table
is not directly possible.
The method I use is to set the field to a monospaced font and
Keith,
Sorry to hear you say this. But of course you have your reasons.
FYI,
My understanding is that both the Dreamcard and Revolution demos are
exactly the same with the following exceptions:
1) Dreamcard has a 10-hour trial limit; Rev has a 30-day trial limit
2) Dreamcard has a 'Dreamcard'
Thanks.
On Friday, September 3, 2004, at 02:36 AM, Chipp Walters wrote:
Keith,
Sorry to hear you say this. But of course you have your reasons.
FYI,
My understanding is that both the Dreamcard and Revolution demos are
exactly the same with the following exceptions:
1) Dreamcard has a 10-hour
Mr. Rossi, I thank you for that demo. What an elegant script. I'm
not ready to fake the title bar yet but if I come to it your script
will surely be the ticket.
Ken, I was under the impression that dragging the title bar was a kind
of blocking action and wasn't sure ANY messages were sent
Hi Scott,
I've a very easy to implement library for doing just about what you
want. It's called 'altBuddyStack' and available at the bottom of page:
http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/RunRev/Downloads.htm
or just put in the msg:
go URL http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/RunRev/altbuddystack.rev;
Hi Chipp,
Sorry to hear you say this. But of course you have your reasons.
Thanks for your response, we were getting fairly frustrated with make up
your mind in ten hours or forget it message. Frankly it caused confusion.
I had made the decision to buy Runtime Express because
1. It built
Hi list,
I could not find any info about the diffence, does anybody know it?
thanks in advance
regards
Wolfgang M. Bereuter
Trainingsmaps© -- speedlearning Mindmaps!
INTERNETTRAINER Wolfgang M. Bereuter
Edelhofg. 17/11, A-1180 Wien, Austria
...
Greetings
Perhaps everyone already knows these things but they tripped me up
until Monte helped me through them. I thought I would pass them on and
also publicly thank Monte since I publicly complained to him.
1. In OS X, you need to have the .rev extension to save a standalone.
2. In OS X,
Hi Wolfgang,
Hi list,
I could not find any info about the diffence, does anybody know it?
Well, looks like 34 british pounds to me ;-)
thanks in advance
regards
Wolfgang M. Bereuter
Regards
Klaus Major
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.major-k.de
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Bonjour François,
Hello everybody!
I have a very important problem with the 2.5 release.
I have a handler On shutdownRequest.
If I use the Quit menu in My standalone application, it crash's!
And Klaus Major writes me the 7.4.2004:
There is an extremely cheap and effective trick on OS X ;-)
I don't know if others are finding this, but to me 2.5 seems very snappy
and responsive in almost every respect. It feels solider, more stable and
generally a much better experience.
Congratulations and thanks to the Rev team.
--
Bruce Lewis
Lewis Collyer
160 John Street, Suite 401
Toronto,
On 9/3/04 5:14 AM, Wolfgang M.Bereuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But... Why does the same testfile (they mean: stack) have 7 MB with the
Dreamcard player and only about 2-3 MB as a rev build standallone (They
know my test apps).
I'm not Chipp, but I have an answer:
It is the components
Hi Ken and all,
On 9/3/04 5:14 AM, Wolfgang M.Bereuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
But... Why does the same testfile (they mean: stack) have 7 MB with
the
Dreamcard player and only about 2-3 MB as a rev build standallone
(They
know my test apps).
I'm not Chipp, but I have an answer:
I am also not
I agree. I don't argue that Rev flood the market with free software for
educators. I simply do not believe that 10 hours is a sufficient amount
of time for learning/evaluation and that even the mere *perception* that
real developers get 30 days and lowly newbies get 10 hours looks bad.
Worse
This is exactly what I was talking about in my previous post.
Judy
On Fri, 3 Sep 2004, Keith Hutchison wrote:
Thanks for your response, we were getting fairly frustrated with make up
your mind in ten hours or forget it message. Frankly it caused confusion.
On Sep 3, 2004, at 4:48 AM, j wrote:
Education is the largest market Revor HyperCard, etc.will ever serve
and hope to make large inroads.
I hope not. The company will be out of business if that's the case. As
far as I know, there is not one company today making significant money
serving the
On Sep 3, 2004, at 4:48 AM, j wrote:
A company buys one tool, not millions of chips.
A company buys a million licenses for each tool.
Nope. That's just wrong. With rev, a company with millions of customers
only buys one copy of the program.
~~
Dan Shafer,
I do not necessarily disagree with you, Judy, about the 10-hour limit.
I just don't think we have enough data points yet to know for sure,
that's all.
Dan
On Sep 3, 2004, at 7:43 AM, Judy Perry wrote:
I agree. I don't argue that Rev flood the market with free software
for
educators. I
Interesting... If I use TextEdit to create a plain-text file and save
it with default settings (except to make it plain text), it uses UNIX
line endings already.
Xcode (Apple's development IDE for X.3) lets you change the line ending
type using a submenu of the Format menu; it also defaults to
On 9/3/04 4:54 PM, Dan Shafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Education is the largest market Revor HyperCard, etc.will ever serve
and hope to make large inroads.
I hope not. The company will be out of business if that's the case. As
far as I know, there is not one company today making
Hello Klaus!
Without the empty folder, it crash's exactly as with!
You are not the matter!:-)
In fact, if I use a button with this simple script:
on mouseup
quit
end mouseup
All is perfect.
But if I use the Quit menu, it crash's!
:-(
The shutdownrequest is like that:
on shutdownRequest --
On 3/9/04 3:54 pm, François Cuneo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have a very important problem with the 2.5 release.
I have a handler On shutdownRequest.
If I use the Quit menu in My standalone application, it crash's!
François,
There is a simple rule when developing in DC/Rev. If it
On 3/9/04 4:04 am, Scott Slaugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Incidentally, I filed this in Bugzilla as bug 2057 before 2.5 shipped.
They said there that in the release it would contain the correct
codecs. Apparently this wasn't true in your case. Has anyone else
had this problem? If so, I
At 09:54 AM 9/3/2004, you wrote:
On Sep 3, 2004, at 4:48 AM, j wrote:
Education is the largest market Revor HyperCard, etc.will ever serve
and hope to make large inroads.
I hope not. The company will be out of business if that's the case. As far
as I know, there is not one company today making
On Sep 3, 2004, at 8:08 AM, Kirk McElhearn wrote:
On 9/3/04 4:54 PM, Dan Shafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Education is the largest market Revor HyperCard, etc.will ever
serve
and hope to make large inroads.
I hope not. The company will be out of business if that's the case. As
far as I know,
On Sep 3, 2004, at 11:23 AM, Kevin Miller wrote:
There is a simple rule when developing in DC/Rev. If it crashes its
almost
certainly a bug. We provide a bug reporting facility and act quickly
to
resolve issues. By filing it in the database we can fix it. Posting
to
this mailing list
On Sep 3, 2004, at 8:49 AM, Troy Rollins wrote:
Kevin,
With all due respect, this is an EXTREMELY frustrating position you
are taking. Discussion of bugs is not only common on developer lists,
it is expected. While no one expects the development team to pick up
on bugs from discussions here,
On Sep 3, 2004, at 8:38 AM, Dan Shafer wrote:
Schools typically want software free or at very low cost and they are
(speaking from personal experience) very tough support customers
because of turnover, lack of time and resources for most teachers and
students to really dive in and learn a
Besides which, bugs in the software ARE related to its usage: they
often prevent its usage, in fact.
I quite agree with the fact that lack of discussion of some of these
bugs can prohibit effective use of the software. If you want the list
to be focused more specifically on how to use the
Keep up the fine work Kevin!
As far as I can tell there are only a few minor issues with a FANTASTIC new
release! It certainly looks like you are keeping busy. Don't forget,
everyone needs to rest sometime.
Thanks
Dave LeYanna
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Troy,
On Sep 3, 2004, at 11:23 AM, Kevin Miller wrote:
There is a simple rule when developing in DC/Rev. If it crashes its
almost
certainly a bug. We provide a bug reporting facility and act quickly
to
resolve issues. By filing it in the database we can fix it. Posting
to
this mailing
On Sep 3, 2004, at 12:40 PM, Kevin Miller wrote:
And sometimes it turns out to be not a bug...
This might take a little burden from off of your shoulders, at least
sometimes ;-)
That's certainly a fair point. I'm not suggesting that those
discussions be
limited. Its just that when the program
Hi Kevin,
On 3/9/04 6:19 pm, Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This list is meant to discuss/try out several workarounds/recipes, if
possible,
BEFORE we decide to file this as a bug...
And sometimes it turns out to be not a bug...
This might take a little burden from off of your shoulders, at
Sorry but when the a standalone crash's, for me, it's me, not a bug.
I'm not so good developer to be able to know if it's me or if it's
Revolution.
So now I'll go to the database to filing it, BUT WHERE IS THE DATABASE
PLEASE:-)
PS: hem: you think really that's a bug??:-)
Amicalement
François
Dan Shafer wrote:
On Sep 3, 2004, at 4:48 AM, j wrote:
A company buys one tool, not millions of chips.
A company buys a million licenses for each tool.
Nope. That's just wrong. With rev, a company with millions of customers
only buys one copy of the program.
Well, a million copies is a bit high,
Robert Brenstein wrote:
Is there a way to get to the Learning Center in the web browser?
I find the mention of Learning Center only in the What's new page on
RR's web but no link and no mention how to access it.
I personally usually first check the documentation and learning
materials for any
Alex Tweedly wrote:
At 12:11 02/09/2004 +0200, Klaus Major wrote:
Hi Alex,
two questions
1. is there a way to stop it opening each time you open 2.5
(Dreamcard) ?
Seems like there should be a preference - but the revOnline pref is
only for update checks, and I can't find anything under
If anyone happens to know a convenient Transcript shortcut for
unhilite all button on card x, unhilite all buttons on cards a, b,
and c, and/or for put empty into fields x, y, z, and t, it would
certainly save me a lot of time typing in some of these scripts...
I'm having to unhilite button
But how do you report bugs in that system then? Post to the list 10
times?
:)
Well, this has still to be worked out ;-)
Haven't you ever subscribed to an eMail newsletter by sending a message
with SUBSCRIBE in the header?
Why not BUG REPORT or *BUG!!!*?
Hi Mark,
Subject: Re: Who is chuck yeager? (OT)
To: How to use Revolution [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Oh, and one more historical item. I think he was the only fighter
pilot at
the end of WWII to shoot down the famous German jet from a
piston-engine
propellered
At 4:55 AM +1000 9/3/2004, Keith Hutchison wrote:
Is there an upgrade path from DreamCard to Runtime Studio?
Yes - if you go to the DreamCard page of the RunRev store, you'll
see items for DreamCard to Studio Upgrade and DreamCard to
Enterprise Upgrade.
Why not just change the name across the
In a message dated 9/3/04 12:07:03 PM,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It is akin to saying, if you encounter what you think is a
bug, put your development project on the shelf until we determine if
you are right or wrong. That could take an indefinite amount of time,
during which you are out
On Sep 3, 2004, at 12:48 PM, Jeanne A. E. DeVoto wrote:
Why not just change the name across the board, DreamCard, DreamStudio
and
DreamEnterprise, which implies an upgrade path.
My understanding is that it's because there's a desired differential
between DreamCard (which is more for hobbyists,
I am a very busy (but happy runrev user) and I do notice that there is tons
of traffic on this list but find nearly all of it important and/or
interesting including info that may lead to a bug report. So I vote that it
be ok for people to discuss bugs on the list at least enough so we can say
yes
Hi Andrew,
Seeing how a compamy like Microsoft doesn't support Win95 these days (at
all!), are you really surprised there are a few anomolies with RR and
Win95? How much of Win95 does .NET support? My guess is 0%.
I would imagine you are one of the very few RR customers still using
Win95. I
On 03.09.2004, at 17:08, Kirk McElhearn wrote:
I can think of one off the top of my head: Inspiration
(www.inspiration.com), who makes outlining/mind-mapping software. I've
been
in touch with PR people who represent other companies that make a
living
from software for the education market - they
On 03.09.2004, at 17:38, Dan Shafer wrote:
Yeah, I know about Inspiration. But they are a VERY small company,
much too small to support a full-blown development tool like Rev.
You are saying that Inspiration is smaller than rev??
regards
Wolfgang M. Bereuter
Trainingsmaps© -- speedlearning
Has anyone else been experiencing the following bug?
When I launch Rev 2.5 the Tools palette is not visible. I try unchecking and checking
it within it's menu, but that still does not make it visible. The only way I've been
able to get it to show is to launch the Application Browser and
The jet you are refering to is the Me-262 (messerschmitt): it was not the only
high speed jet aircraft, however it was the most reliable and produced in the
greatest quantity.
In fact, it was also the first jet to break the speed of sound.
The first few pilots who had the misfortune to do so
On Sep 3, 2004, at 2:00 PM, Chipp Walters wrote:
If I were Revolution, I would state something along the lines:
Note: OS's not currently supported by their manufacturer may also
have problems running certain features of Revolution
True, but given that fact that those OS's are not likely to change
Frank-
Friday, September 3, 2004, 10:01:26 AM, you wrote:
FDEJ If anyone happens to know a convenient Transcript shortcut for
FDEJ unhilite all button on card x, unhilite all buttons on cards a, b,
FDEJ and c, and/or for put empty into fields x, y, z, and t, it would
FDEJ certainly save me a
On 03.09.2004, at 11:59, Kevin Miller wrote:
1) You can purchase the early update pack within a year of your last
purchase or renewal, otherwise you must purchase the update pack.
Does this mean that I (maybee others too) have to pay the higher price,
because my license has expired some weeks
Sweet!
Thank you, that looks great.
On Sep 3, 2004, at 2:35 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:
I do something like this in a repeat loop:
local y, tObject, tControl
put the name of this card into tObject
repeat with y=1 to the number of controls in tObject
put the name of control y of tObject of tObject
On 3/9/04 5:49 pm, Troy Rollins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
With all due respect, this is an EXTREMELY frustrating position you are
taking. Discussion of bugs is not only common on developer lists, it is
expected. While no one expects the development team to pick up on bugs
from discussions
On Sep 3, 2004, at 2:48 PM, Kevin Miller wrote:
The RunRev stance of
trying to keep such discussions out of this list will also keep
professional developers out of this list, since we are quite
accustomed
to open discussion of any usage issues regarding the tools we work
with.
Note that our
On 3/9/04 9:11 pm, Troy Rollins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That said, I'll request directly the consideration of providing a
professional developer's list for those with current licenses for
studio or above. While DC is an awesome thing for RunRev, it has the
potential of being less awesome for
On 3/9/04 8:30 pm, Troy Rollins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If I were Revolution, I would state something along the lines:
Note: OS's not currently supported by their manufacturer may also
have problems running certain features of Revolution
True, but given that fact that those OS's are not
In a message dated 9/3/04 11:02:47 AM,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Message: 11
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 13:01:26 -0400
From: Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: unhilite all fields of card ... ?
To: How to use Revolution [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type:
What might be the idea behind the renaming of Express to Dreamcard and
at the same time changing some of the conditions of use?
Seems to be in a similar category like the naming of Revolution, which
could be understood as a goal to be reached somewhere in the future and
as sort of a promise
Okay...after almost a year, I have another question...
When you create a group and give it scrollbars, Rev gives it a grey background. What
is I don' want a grey backgound?
I have not been able to find anyway around this - none of the settings change the
background color of the group object.
Chipp Walters wrote:
I've a very easy to implement library for doing just about what you
want. It's called 'altBuddyStack' and available at the bottom of page:
http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/RunRev/Downloads.htm
or just put in the msg:
go URL
On Sep 3, 2004, at 4:30 PM, Wilhelm Sanke wrote:
I repeat here my post that addressed such issues, which I sent on
Wednesday, Sept 1, under subject Dreamcard Player and which got
somewhat lost in the turmoil of the Dreamcard discussion on the list:
Not quite sure what you were expecting a
On Sep 03 2004, at 21:11, Troy Rollins wrote:
...One list really does not suit all needs. Frankly, I'm not too
inclined to hang out on a list with the dreamcarder who wants to make
a Pokemon database as his 6th grade science project
Elitarist! Oh wait no name calling...
Actually I think
Fellow babies...
If you miss the old method of inspecting objects in Revolution where
you DIDN'T have to option-command click in selection mode to order to
inspect, there is a FREE solution to your problem.
Click the link below to find out more and download said solution:
On Friday, September 3, 2004, at 11:22 AM, Eric Engle wrote:
However Hans Guido Mutke did break the speed of sound and survived to
tell the
tale.
Here http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schallmauer
Hans Guido Mutke claimed to have broken the sound barrier before
Yeager, on April 9, 1945 in a
On Sep 3, 2004, at 5:53 PM, Björnke von Gierke wrote:
Elitarist!
Fair enough. I am the bad guy.
--
Troy
RPSystems, Ltd.
http://www.rpsystems.net
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On Sep 3, 2004, at 2:18 PM, Troy Rollins wrote:
What would be good to aspire to would be the Shockwave model, where if
a required component is missing, the player retrieves it on-the-fly.
The beta version of the latest shockwave player is under 2 megs. I
downloaded it yesterday in less than 6
On Friday, September 3, 2004, at 11:02 AM, Ken Norris (dialup) wrote:
So What? :-)
Nearly impossible because it was very advanced for its time, and
faster than
any other manned aircraft. It wasn't heavily armed and had a short
range,
but it could outrun anything. But quality metals had become
I've changed subject line - getting to be a habit :-)
At 19:49 03/09/2004 -0400, Troy Rollins wrote:
This is true. Many hobbyists become pros, and many pros like to help out
those with less experience. But pros also need to share experience with
each other sometimes, in an environment which is
On 9/3/04 6:34 PM, Arthur Urban wrote:
Now when I select a scrollbar in the editor, the properties window opens and
tells me that my arrow click and thumb click values are -1.
I don't see that here. A new scrollbar has a startvalue of 0 and an
endvalue of 65535. Arrow click is 512. Thumb
On Sep 3, 2004, at 9:45 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote:
Being on a list, and seeing all the traffic go by, is a very effective
way to learn - being able to browse archives is, for me at least, much
less effective.
I sense the era of the Dreamcard democracy on its way in.
--
Troy
RPSystems, Ltd.
From the website:
Chipp Walters told me everyone was REALLY pissed off about not being
able to inspect using the hover method anymore in Rev 2.5. Real palace
revolt stuff. Anyway, he aroused my passions on the subject. Told me I'd
become a star if I release the Inspector.
Can't say those are
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