Re: Manipulate Stacks with Duplicate Names?

2005-10-12 Thread xbury . cs
not mistakenly because Tuv once told me you just CANT rely on stack ids. Actually they change across sessions (not very smart IMOHO) so i too just avoid them... The stack path is probably the best reference after the stack's name... cheers Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 13/10/2005 08:23:39:

Re: Manipulate Stacks with Duplicate Names?

2005-10-12 Thread Scott Rossi
>> Is there any way to distinguish between newly created >> (unsaved) stacks that have the same name? > How about using the stack's ID? I seem to recall reading on the list long ago that it was somehow possible for multiple opened stacks to have duplicate IDs, and (because of this) referencing st

anomaly in dictionary entry explained in use-rev long ago; bug in uploading web notes?

2005-10-12 Thread Dick Kriesel
On 10/12/05 12:04 AM, "Dick Kriesel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The entry for property "the backgroundNames" states: > > The backgroundNames is the list of all backgrounds in the stack whose > backgroundBehavior property is set to true, whether they appear on the > current card or not. > > Whi

RE: Manipulate Stacks with Duplicate Names?

2005-10-12 Thread MisterX
I forgot about the id but there is also the filename property which doesn't exist in unsaved stacks... cheers Xavier http://monsieurx.com > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Jeanne A. E. DeVoto > Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 3:14

Re: automated testing tools (slightly OT)

2005-10-12 Thread Mark Wieder
Jacque- Thanks. And I'm breathing a sigh of relief, too... I was sure you were gonna say you did this with VU back in the day. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to

Browser Fields

2005-10-12 Thread Jesse Sng
Hi, Has anyone attempted to implement the kind of browser set of fields that you see in iTunes and in the OS X Finder? I need to design something like that for a particular application that will allow the user to browser a hierarchical set of data that is partitioned into categories and subca

Re: 2.6.1 release notes?

2005-10-12 Thread Ray Stace
Sivakatirswami Both were in my copy of the download Change_Log_2.6.1.txt was the first item in the bundle - "This file is divided into two sections - Revolution Engine 2.6.1 and Revolution IDE 2.6.1. This list was updated 4th October 2005." DeepMaskSampler.rev was the fourth (alpha order) Ray

Re: 2.6.1 release notes?

2005-10-12 Thread Troy Rollins
On Oct 12, 2005, at 11:59 PM, Sivakatirswami wrote: Version 2.6.1 is a bug fix and maintenance release. For more details, please see the IDEChangeLog.txt and EngineChangeLog.txt files in the distribution folder." In the Root of the new Rev folder (the same place you found "Whats_new.txt")

2.6.1 release notes?

2005-10-12 Thread Sivakatirswami
Anyone know where to find this: "VERSION 2.6.1 Version 2.6.1 is a bug fix and maintenance release. For more details, please see the IDEChangeLog.txt and EngineChangeLog.txt files in the distribution folder." those two files are not part of the download... Sivakatirswami Also, where are

Re: Manipulate Stacks with Duplicate Names?

2005-10-12 Thread Jeanne A. E. DeVoto
At 2:49 PM -0700 10/12/2005, Scott Rossi wrote: Is there any way to distinguish between newly created (unsaved) stacks that have the same name? How about using the stack's ID? -- jeanne a. e. devoto ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jaedworks.com ___ use

Re: num of bgs versus num of grps

2005-10-12 Thread Phil Davis
This reply is incomplete and may not solve anything, but here's my basic starting point for keeping it straight mentally: A basic difference between calling one of those collection objects a 'group' or a 'background' is SCOPE OF REFERENCE. - When I talk about a 'background', I'm speaking in

Re: Question on message handling

2005-10-12 Thread Ken Ray
On 10/12/05 2:22 PM, "Jim Hurley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What puzzles me is that the card apparently gets the keyDown message > before the field does. That is exactly what I am looking for, but I > don't quite see why. If I'm typing in a field, why doesn't the > field get the message befor

Manipulate Stacks with Duplicate Names?

2005-10-12 Thread Scott Rossi
Is there any way to distinguish between newly created (unsaved) stacks that have the same name? Yes, I know it's not "kosher" to be editing stacks at the same time that have the same name, but if the situation were to arise, is there some way to reference/work with the stacks independently of each

Re: Accumulating message box

2005-10-12 Thread Jim Ault
Looks like you need to open Application Browser and double-click on the correct stack in its long list, then modify to suit. Are smileys/emoticons going to be part of your snazzy user interface? :-) Jim Ault Las Vegas On 10/12/05 6:52 AM, "Troy Rollins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Oct 12

Re: num of bgs versus num of grps

2005-10-12 Thread Sarah Reichelt
> As there is a lot to do about background groups may be this is the > right time to ask about a completely undocumented feature (at least I > cannot find any reference to it (and I know this is not a reference > either :-)) > > < put the number of backgrounds > is different from (though the docs >

Re: sharedVisible enhancement?

2005-10-12 Thread J. Landman Gay
Timothy Miller wrote: If bg field text can be different on each card containing the group, or shared by each instance of the bg field then... Why couldn't the visible be handled in a similar way? With the (hypothetical) sharedvisible set to true, every instance of that bg field would be eithe

Re: Image woes...

2005-10-12 Thread Todd Geist
Thanks Klaus What you pointed out was mistake in the sample file I created to try and isolate an issue I was having in a different file. Once you cleared up the that issue I was able to isolate the issue, which was a bug later on down the code. Oh boy!... That was fun Todd On 10/12/05 1:22 P

Re: Image woes...

2005-10-12 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Todd, Still having problems ... ON mouseUp put the clipboardData["image"] into img "image" put specialFolderPath("desktop") & "/test.png" into tPath put "binfile:" & tPath into tURL put img "image" into URL tURL END MouseUP --> test.png is created on on the desktop and looks

Re: automated testing tools (slightly OT)

2005-10-12 Thread Mark Wieder
Richard- Wednesday, October 12, 2005, 11:39:43 AM, you wrote: > Do you know offhand how this affects screen readers, such as those use > for the blind? I don't, but the subject came up on another listserv a while back. I'm pretty sure the results would be the same. At least with the standard QA

Re: Question on message handling

2005-10-12 Thread J. Landman Gay
Jim Hurley wrote: What puzzles me is that the card apparently gets the keyDown message before the field does. That is exactly what I am looking for, but I don't quite see why. I'm not seeing that. I see the field getting the message first, even if the field is in a background group. I ma

Re: automated testing tools (slightly OT)

2005-10-12 Thread Mark Wieder
Richard- Wednesday, October 12, 2005, 10:27:14 AM, you wrote: > Thanks for pointing out 2569. I just sent it my last remaining votes. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution

Re: Image woes...

2005-10-12 Thread Todd Geist
Still having problems On 10/12/05 4:59 AM, "Klaus Major" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hmm, that does work actually, i use this almost everyday. > > Did you check the image on disk with an image viewer? > Maybe it got corrupted somehow... Here is what I am doing. Mac OSX 10.4.1 Rev 2.6.1 I use b

Re: : Playing audio clips

2005-10-12 Thread Eric Chatonet
Hi Jim, I find your contributions amazing :-) Glad to help you. Hi Eric, Thanks for the heads up. Loved your stack. I was puzzled that you weren't getting the static that I get when the thumbposition of the scrollbar is set with the update. Turns out that my scrollbar has a scrollbarDrag

Re: automated testing tools (slightly OT)

2005-10-12 Thread J. Landman Gay
Rob Cozens wrote: I'd be interested in what Jacque Gay might have to say on the subject. I recall a very interesting conversation we had at a Macworld regarding the work she did for Apple to automate HyperCard testing. It was a long time ago so I've forgotten a lot of the details, but this

Re: importing an image from a window that is offscreen

2005-10-12 Thread Chipp Walters
I believe import snapshot offscreen doesn't work on PC's, only on Macs. Just tested it again with 2.6.1. You need to use Wouter or Ken Ray's solution: for the PC (At least that's how I do it). best, Chipp _

Question on message handling

2005-10-12 Thread Jim Hurley
I guess I can't get away with claiming that this is a beginners question. Been at it too long for that. But I haven't worked much with fields and so this is an elementary question on that subject. I have a field in which the lockText is false so I can type into the field. I have a card hand

Re: Export Forced Line Break (soft returns) to XML

2005-10-12 Thread Sivakatirswami
Thanks Jeanne.. you got it... replacing "cr" with "numToChar(13)" works... duh.. I thought CR char(13) on the mac... of course it does if you save with "file:" and not "binfile:" So in BBedit I clearly now have char(10) at the end of lines in versions and char(13) at the end of every verse

Re: Background Group Question

2005-10-12 Thread Jim Ault
The key point may be scope issues. -1- Where is the script located? in one of the groups, the card, the stack -2- You could use stack custom properties to do this and be available to all cards and groups -3- You could use a global variable and be available to all stacks and cards > How can I add

Re: Scale to fit

2005-10-12 Thread J. Landman Gay
Todd Geist wrote: Hello I have an image on a card and would like to scale it to fit in a button dynamically. In other words as the button gets bigger the icon should until it reaches its actual size. I can handle the button getting bigger, but I have no idea how to accomplish making the icon s

Re: : Playing audio clips

2005-10-12 Thread Jim Hurley
Message: 9 Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 15:18:25 +0200 From: Eric Chatonet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: : Playing audio clips To: How to use Revolution Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hi Jim, You might be interested in "How t

RE: importing an image from a window that is offscreen

2005-10-12 Thread Lynch, Jonathan
I just installed 2.6.1 on my machine, and tried this, and it did not work. Is this a pc vs. mac thing? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Rossi Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 2:07 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: importing an

Re: automated testing tools (slightly OT)

2005-10-12 Thread Rob Cozens
Hi Chris, I'm wanting to find out if any of you are using any type of automated testing tools with Revolution. When testing SDB for logic errors, memory leaks, and multi-user performance, I wrote a stack that automated testing by sending database commands in random order and maintaining a lo

Re: automated testing tools (slightly OT)

2005-10-12 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mark Wieder wrote: Chris- Wednesday, October 12, 2005, 10:07:26 AM, you wrote: This is probably a little bit off topic, but I'm wanting to find out if any of you are using any type of automated testing tools with Revolution. I'm thinking something like scripts or whatever that will perfo

Re: automated testing tools (slightly OT)

2005-10-12 Thread Mark Wieder
Chris- Wednesday, October 12, 2005, 10:07:26 AM, you wrote: > This is probably a little bit off topic, but I'm wanting to find out > if any of you are using any type of automated testing tools with > Revolution. I'm thinking something like scripts or whatever that > will perform tasks that y

Re: importing an image from a window that is offscreen

2005-10-12 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Lynch, Jonathan wrote: > I am on a pc, using 2.5, and simply importing from the rect does not > work - if the image is halfway off the screen, then the imported image > will be cut in half! If the image is all the way off the screen, then > there is nothing in the imported image. Perha

RE: importing an image from a window that is offscreen

2005-10-12 Thread Lynch, Jonathan
I am on a pc, using 2.5, and simply importing from the rect does not work - if the image is halfway off the screen, then the imported image will be cut in half! If the image is all the way off the screen, then there is nothing in the imported image. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTE

Scale to fit

2005-10-12 Thread Todd Geist
Hello I have an image on a card and would like to scale it to fit in a button dynamically. In other words as the button gets bigger the icon should until it reaches its actual size. I can handle the button getting bigger, but I have no idea how to accomplish making the icon scale. Anybody have

insert data into database problem

2005-10-12 Thread Supote Songthammawat
Dear Sir, I have some problem about insert data by sql into database. Why I can't not to insert into database? When I press button save it will occur : 1 (Create PersonSysID) : u just add [Sybase][ODBC Driver][Adaptive Server Enterprise] The name "khunnawut" is illegal in this conte

sharedVisible enhancement?

2005-10-12 Thread Timothy Miller
If bg field text can be different on each card containing the group, or shared by each instance of the bg field then... Why couldn't the visible be handled in a similar way? With the (hypothetical) sharedvisible set to true, every instance of that bg field would be either visible or invisible.

Re: importing an image from a window that is offscreen

2005-10-12 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Richard Gaskin wrote: >> >> >> Maybe it'll come through unbroken, maybe not. >> >> Inconsequential either way, unfortunately: that script break under OS X >> (hard crash). >> >> Would be nice if there was a

Re: libCGI?

2005-10-12 Thread Troy Rollins
On Oct 12, 2005, at 12:26 PM, Troy Rollins wrote: Rodney Tamblin's libCGI stack would be useful Apologies on the spelling. Rodney Tamblyn, of course. -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. http://www.rpsystems.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@li

Re: libCGI?

2005-10-12 Thread Troy Rollins
On Oct 12, 2005, at 1:43 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: You could. Or easier, download only the engine here: Grabbed it. Thanks again. -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. http://www.rpsystems.net ___ use-rev

Re: importing an image from a window that is offscreen

2005-10-12 Thread Buster
Hi, I don't know what happens to others that use that script, but I have a perfectly working stack here. Works in rev 2.6.1 too. (only made some 2 steps a 1 step) Nevertheless Scott Rossi's proposition works also on hidden and offscreen stacks and is much simpler. Greetings, Wouter On 1

Re: libCGI?

2005-10-12 Thread J. Landman Gay
Troy Rollins wrote: Hi all, I'm looking to get Rev-CGI up and running. Sounds like Rodney Tamblin's libCGI stack would be useful, but all the links for it are dead. Does anyone have a copy available? I believe I saw it recently on RevOnline. Check out the developer utilities. Also, I know

Re: Use of the encryption features in 2.6

2005-10-12 Thread Ken Ray
On 10/12/05 9:14 AM, "Bill Vlahos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The docs are pretty clear on what the parameters are but not on how I > would actually implement this in a real program. > > Is there a tutorial somewhere that I missed? Not that I'm aware of, but Dar Scott did a presentation on "Se

Re: importing an image from a window that is offscreen

2005-10-12 Thread Richard Gaskin
Richard Gaskin wrote: For some reason it seems some email clients put a space in there -- here's one without the space: Maybe it'll come through unbroken, maybe not. Inconsequential either way, unfortunately: that sc

Re: importing an image from a window that is offscreen

2005-10-12 Thread Richard Gaskin
Troy Rollins wrote: On Oct 12, 2005, at 12:40 PM, Lynch, Jonathan wrote: http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2004-January/ 028585.html The link was broken across lines. Try this - For some reason it

Re: automated testing tools (slightly OT)

2005-10-12 Thread Richard Gaskin
Chris Sheffield wrote: This is probably a little bit off topic, but I'm wanting to find out if any of you are using any type of automated testing tools with Revolution. I'm thinking something like scripts or whatever that will perform tasks that your end-users would perform. Does anything

Re: [OT] Microsoft Office's New UI Blazes Some New Trails for Us

2005-10-12 Thread SimPLsol
Dan, I agree completely. HyperCard "hooked" me with the Addresses stack. I added one field ("Birthdays", so when I looked up someone's phone number I could see if there were any birthdays or anniversaries in the family in the next week or so) and never looked back. It would be nice to have a

Re: automated testing tools (slightly OT)

2005-10-12 Thread Roger . E . Eller
> This is probably a little bit off topic, but I'm wanting to find out > if any of you are using any type of automated testing tools with > Revolution. I'm thinking something like scripts or whatever that > will perform tasks that your end-users would perform. Does anything > like that exist that

Re: [OT] Microsoft Office's New UI Blazes Some New Trails for Us

2005-10-12 Thread SimPLsol
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automated testing tools (slightly OT)

2005-10-12 Thread Chris Sheffield
This is probably a little bit off topic, but I'm wanting to find out if any of you are using any type of automated testing tools with Revolution. I'm thinking something like scripts or whatever that will perform tasks that your end-users would perform. Does anything like that exist that c

Re: importing an image from a window that is offscreen

2005-10-12 Thread Troy Rollins
On Oct 12, 2005, at 12:40 PM, Lynch, Jonathan wrote: http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2004-January/ 028585.html The link was broken across lines. Try this - -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. http://www.rpsyst

Re: [OT] Microsoft Office's New UI Blazes Some New Trails for Us

2005-10-12 Thread Troy Rollins
On Oct 12, 2005, at 1:06 AM, Judy Perry wrote: But, respectfully, they all LOOK ALIKE. You can spot them from a mile away. They are fake; they not infrequently have nothing to do with the content which they exist presumably to advance. They were chosen for being the least obnoxious of the pr

RE: importing an image from a window that is offscreen

2005-10-12 Thread Lynch, Jonathan
Thanks... There are quite a few postings on that page - can you tell me the title of one of the postings? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wouter Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 12:28 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: importing an

Re: [OT] Microsoft Office's New UI Blazes Some New Trails for Us

2005-10-12 Thread Dan Shafer
Think of Revolution (or perhaps more appropriately Dreamcard) in this context. If we could define, say, 10 or 12 basic application types that have a significant number of elements in common within each and make it possible to get a big head start in creating an app by choosing what we can t

Re: importing an image from a window that is offscreen

2005-10-12 Thread Roger . E . Eller
> Is there any way to use the import snapshot command to take an image > from a stack that is located to the right or left of the screen? I would like this ability too, however I don't believe it is currently possible. In these situations, I typically access the imageData to get what I need. Ro

Re: importing an image from a window that is offscreen

2005-10-12 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Lynch, Jonathan wrote: > Is there any way to use the import snapshot command to take an image > from a stack that is located to the right or left of the screen? > > > Right now, when I try it, it does not work. Basically, it seems that it > does not draw anything that is offscreen, an

libCGI?

2005-10-12 Thread Troy Rollins
Hi all, I'm looking to get Rev-CGI up and running. Sounds like Rodney Tamblin's libCGI stack would be useful, but all the links for it are dead. Does anyone have a copy available? Also, I know my (external) web server is Linux based, while my internal testing server is OSX server. I mostly w

Re: importing an image from a window that is offscreen

2005-10-12 Thread Wouter
Hi, Yes you can. Use and adapt the scripts of this thread: http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2004-January/ 028585.html Greetings, Wouter On 12 Oct 2005, at 17:53, Lynch, Jonathan wrote: Is there any way to use the import snapshot command to take an image from a stack that i

importing an image from a window that is offscreen

2005-10-12 Thread Lynch, Jonathan
Is there any way to use the import snapshot command to take an image from a stack that is located to the right or left of the screen? Right now, when I try it, it does not work. Basically, it seems that it does not draw anything that is offscreen, and thus cannot take a picture of it. Can I force

Use of the encryption features in 2.6

2005-10-12 Thread Bill Vlahos
Has anyone published a description of how to use the encryption features of 2.6? I have a program that stores data in custom properties on several cards (major catagories) which I want to encrypt. It would be nice to click a check box to automatically encrypt the entire stack but I don't think

Re: Accumulating message box

2005-10-12 Thread Troy Rollins
On Oct 12, 2005, at 9:52 AM, Troy Rollins wrote: And thanks for the thoughts, but I'm talking about modifying its stack so that it does clear between "Puts" Ooops... does NOT clear between "Puts" -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. http://www.rpsystems.net ___

Re: Accumulating message box

2005-10-12 Thread Troy Rollins
On Oct 12, 2005, at 2:42 AM, Jim Ault wrote: Do you mean the Rev msg box? Yes that one. ;-) And thanks for the thoughts, but I'm talking about modifying its stack so that it does clear between "Puts", but automatically adds CR and the new message, always and for any stack that puts to the

Re: : Playing audio clips

2005-10-12 Thread Eric Chatonet
Hi Jim, You might be interested in "How to Monitor a QuickTime Player by Script", a tutorial available through "Tutorials Picker". On my website or Rev Online (user: So Smart Software) This stack shows you how to monitor a QT player to play music (mp3 included) and provide all the usual com

num of bgs versus num of grps

2005-10-12 Thread Wouter
Hi All, As there is a lot to do about background groups may be this is the right time to ask about a completely undocumented feature (at least I cannot find any reference to it (and I know this is not a reference either :-)) < put the number of backgrounds > is different from (though the

Re: Image woes...

2005-10-12 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Todd, It's late but I can't seem to figure this out.. I saved a PNG to disk using put img "image" into URL "binfile:/" Now I want to get it back into an image control Why can't I use? Put URL "binfile:/" into img "image" I am getting an empty image. What am I missing? Hmm, that does wor

Re: Image woes...

2005-10-12 Thread David Burgun
It's late but I can't seem to figure this out.. I saved a PNG to disk using put img "image" into URL "binfile:/" Now I want to get it back into an image control Why can't I use? Put URL "binfile:/" into img "image" I am getting an empty image. What am I missing? try: set the filename

Image woes...

2005-10-12 Thread Todd Geist
It's late but I can't seem to figure this out.. I saved a PNG to disk using put img "image" into URL "binfile:/" Now I want to get it back into an image control Why can't I use? Put URL "binfile:/" into img "image" I am getting an empty image. What am I missing? Thanks Todd Todd Geist

Background Group Question

2005-10-12 Thread David Burgun
Hi, I have a stack with two cards. There are 4 Common Background Groups and one Group that is unique in each card. At startup I build a look-up table (array) which uses the long name of each control as a key. Once the stack is running the code looks up values for certain fields and menu's usi

Re: [OT] Microsoft Office's New UI Blazes Some New Trails for Us

2005-10-12 Thread jbv
Scott , > I must be missing the point of your post. MS claims to be providing more > templates and making the UI easier to use. To use your example, they're > adding even more presets and converting the tiny LCD into a full color > display. Whether they succeed remains to be seen, but the goa

Re: [OT] Microsoft Office's New UI Blazes Some New Trails for Us

2005-10-12 Thread Dan Shafer
Yes, but by all accounts, it will be a special, proprietary XML that they won't open. And they've publicly stated that they will NOT support OpenFormat, which is an XML standard format. Dan On Oct 11, 2005, at 11:52 PM, Scott Kane wrote: IMO, the fact that MSWord saves files in their ow

Re: the inverse of the "owner" property; anomaly in dictionary entry

2005-10-12 Thread Dick Kriesel
On 10/10/05 8:24 PM, "Dick Kriesel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The property works for me, but does anyone see trouble with it? Well, not that it's a hot topic, but yes, I do. The function ignores the backgrounds that a stack owns after they're removed from cards. A revised version follows bel

RE: [OT] Microsoft Office's New UI Blazes Some New Trails for Us

2005-10-12 Thread xbury . cs
Given their HEAVY use of tags in word html or rtf exports, sounds scary already! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/10/2005 08:52:54: > > > IMO, the fact that MSWord saves files in their own proprietary markup > > language *should* discourage anyone from ever using it. It'd sure be > > cool if mo