That's funny; having been running b3 through the gamut
of tests I dreamed up; I haven't been sent b4.
Very Queer Indeed.
sincerely, Richmond Mathewson
A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle.
Yes, just checked now on 10.4.11 and it's not there, looks like it's
a 10.5 thing! Ooop!
Cheers,
Luis.
On 21 Feb 2008, at 03:02, Richard Gaskin wrote:
Luis wrote:
Richard Gaskin wrote:
Is there an easy way to do this in script?
Well, on OS X there's an Automator action that can
Greetings,
Background: A couple of months ago I asked about handling multiple menubars
in a multi lingual application. I received several helpful replies and after
finding time to implement the suggestions, saved lots of space and greatly
simplified the menu handling procedure in my app. It is
Hello List,
I have a Rev stack that connects to a MySQL database
by calling a Rev-cgi script. The stack is running locally,
while the cgi-script and the database are on my wehhost's
server.
Everything works fine except for the displaying in a text-field
of the downloaded data. The English
For those of you who don't know, Rev On Rockets is a set of libraries, and a
workflow created by Andre Garzia for implementing Rev CGI quickly and easily
on servers. It's free.
So, why would anyone want to use it? Well, before I get into the various
uses for RevCGI, I'd like to tell why I'm so
Andre,
I'll definitely take a good look at that. Does that library require
an SMTP relay or does it use some other method of sending an email?
Thanks.
Richard
On Feb 21, 2008, at 1:19 AM, Andre Garzia wrote:
Richard,
you can use RocketsSendmail library from the RevOnRockets package to
Part II
So, the other really cool part of ROR (Rev On Rockets) is it comes with it's
own webserver, which runs locally, and is ENTIRELY REV BASED. So, you can
edit and debug your RevCGI right in Rev without even being connected to the
Internet. This is an extreme ease-of-use workflow addition to
On 20 Feb 2008, at 17:54, J. Landman Gay wrote:
Dave Cragg wrote:
My concern was that if the engine is in the cgi-bin folder, you
can attempt to call the engine directly. For example, if the
engine is named rev, then what happens when you request the url
So, I thought if others were interested, I'd create a tutorial series to
help developers learn how to use ROR and RevCGI. There are of course some
very good RevCGI beginner tutorials, but I'm hoping these would go farther,
and show a bit more advanced techniques...like putting file locking
Hola Chipp,
Part II
So, the other really cool part of ROR (Rev On Rockets) is it comes
with it's
...
So, if you're interested, holler at me or Andre, or just respond
here. If
there are enough folks, we'll create a few free ROR tutes. Just let
us know!
-Chipp
Yo, count me in!
Best
On Feb 21, 2008, at 12:01 PM, Chipp Walters wrote:
So, if you're interested, holler at me or Andre, or just respond
here. If
there are enough folks, we'll create a few free ROR tutes. Just let
us know
Please, please do.
sims
ClipaSearch Pro
Yes please
paul
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Hi Chipp and Andre,
Le 21 févr. 08 à 12:01, Chipp Walters a écrit :
So, if you're interested, holler at me or Andre, or just respond
here. If
there are enough folks, we'll create a few free ROR tutes. Just let
us know!
Rev cgis have always been a kind of mystery to me ;-)
So, even if I
Me too is interested. Would it be possible to additionally have a
documentation of handlers and functions and what they do and how do you
use them :-). Or anything like Rev IDE dictionary with documented
functions, handlers and properties?
All the best!
Viktoras
Chipp Walters wrote:
So, if
Chipp,
I'd love to see this project continue to move forward in all aspects.
Years ago (in the MetaCard and Scott Raney days) I wrote a MetaCard-
based web / application server for a project I was working on. It was
a lot of fun being able to implement it in MetaTalk (Transcript), but
This would be quite helpful. Thanks.
Richard Miller
On Feb 21, 2008, at 6:40 AM, Paul Williams wrote:
Yes please
paul
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Chipp,
So, if you're interested, holler at me or Andre, or just respond here. If
there are enough folks, we'll create a few free ROR tutes. Just let us know!
of course I am interested, although I've got accustomed to my own Revcgi
development tools I've developped over the years...
I've
Hi Matthias,
Before you write the data to a file, do this:
put uniEncode(yourData,UTF8) into yourData
This uni-encodes the entire XML file. You might try this with UTF16
as well, but that shouldn't be necessary. Let me know whether this
works.
Do you create an XML file with your own
Sounds like a good job for ScreenSteps... ;)
Cheers,
Luis.
On 21 Feb 2008, at 11:01, Chipp Walters wrote:
Part II
So, the other really cool part of ROR (Rev On Rockets) is it comes
with it's
own webserver, which runs locally, and is ENTIRELY REV BASED. So,
you can
edit and debug your
Count me in!
Len Morgan
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So, if you're
interested, holler at me or Andre, or just respond here.
Yes, please.
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Chipp:
I would really appreciate the tutorials.
Jim
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Chipp Walters wrote:
So, if you're interested, holler at me or Andre, or just respond here. If
there are enough folks, we'll create a few free ROR tutes. Just let us know!
-Chipp
Yup, I've always been curious about it and a hand-holding intro sounds a
great idea to me.
Martin Baxter
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I
Just in case you want to hear more of George, you can visit his site at
georgebancroft.net. I've posted some of the new stuff we are working on
for the 2nd CD (full band this time).
Don't mean to advertise here but while we were on the subject of music
len
Hi Chipp,
Yes, --- I would LOVE to soak up the tutorials about REV on the web.
Perhaps it would make sense to put up the early editions of the
tutorials on the unofficial WIKI that is deveoted to Rev.
Just an idea. The wiki is a good tool for being 'quick' -- and it
allows for others
On Feb 21, 2008, at 4:40 AM, Nicolas Cueto wrote:
Everything works fine except for the displaying in a text-field
of the downloaded data. The English text arrives fine, but the
Japanese text appears as one question mark per character.
I'm including below what I think is the relecant
On Feb 21, 2008, at 7:12 AM, Luis wrote:
Sounds like a good job for ScreenSteps... ;)
You rang? :-) I actually have started experimenting with creating
short tutorials on performing small tasks in Revolution using
ScreenSteps and ScreenSteps Live. I wanted to post some more lessons
I'm interested also.
Andres Martinez
www.baKno.com
On Feb 21, 2008, at 6:01 AM, Chipp Walters wrote:
Part II
So, the other really cool part of ROR (Rev On Rockets) is it comes
with it's
own webserver, which runs locally, and is ENTIRELY REV BASED. So,
you can
edit and debug your RevCGI
Richard,
RocketsSendmail is just a wrapper for the popular Sendmail unix tool
that is bundled with every linux under the sun. In the end, you're
calling the sendmail command line tool and that tool is sending the
email.
It does not rely on relays or other hacks, sendmail is the *official*
way to
Count me in as well... Jim
On 21-Feb-08, at 7:12 AM, Jim Sims wrote:
On Feb 21, 2008, at 12:01 PM, Chipp Walters wrote:
So, if you're interested, holler at me or Andre, or just respond
here. If
there are enough folks, we'll create a few free ROR tutes. Just
let us know
Please,
Andre,
OK. Well, perhaps that's where I'm running into a problem.
I'm running my Rev cgi program on a dedicated MacMini server. It's
simply a MacMini sitting in some server farm somewhere, so it's not a
hosted account, in the traditional sense. Should I still be able to
use sendmail?
Richard,
You're lucky, RocketsSendmail supports only two operating systems -
Linux Mac OS X - so you're good to go. On MacOS X, RocketsSendmail
will use command line mail command.
(Mac OS X includes sendmail but mail command line tool works better)
Cheers
andre
On 2/21/08, Richard Miller
£149 applies if your 1 year license has expired. I take
'recently bought'
meaning less than a year so you're entitled to an 'Early Update Pack':
http://www.runrev.com/buy/studio_early_update
which is £99.
What you get stacks onto what you have - there's a benefit to keeping your
license
On 2/20/08 10:36 PM, J. Landman Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hershel Fisch wrote:
On 2/20/08 4:59 PM, J. Landman Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hershel Fisch wrote:
Yes, I'm sorry about that I do understand but actualy now found out that
there is another list to post on
And by the way, J,
Andre and Chipp working on a project together! Sweet!
I have a lot of web tasks coming up and have been dreading using my
old Golive library-PHP hack because it's hard to work with.
Tutorials would be fantastic.
sqb
So, if you're interested, holler at me or Andre, or just respond here.
yes.
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Using some of Andre's libraries, you can easily send email, so you could
create a
software registration database stack, which gets called from PayPal after
someone purchases your product, and it automatically emails the regcode.
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
I have
Ok, you got me interested. I would love to learn about ROR.
Tom McGrath
On Feb 21, 2008, at 6:01 AM, Chipp Walters wrote:
Part II
So, if you're interested, holler at me or Andre, or just respond
here. If
there are enough folks, we'll create a few free ROR tutes. Just let
us know!
Dave Cragg wrote:
Sorry to prolong this, Jacque.
Not at all. I think the discussion is valuable. I am fairly sure that
Rev is more secure than some other CGI implementations but I'd like to
know that for certain.
The internal server error is returned
by Apache, and only indicates that
Thu, 21 Feb 2008 05:01:27 -0600 Chipp Waters wrote:
So, if you're interested, holler at me or Andre, or just respond here.
Definitely!
My hand's up!
Thank you both for the offer. Your posts, Chipp, were a great incentive for us
all get a grip on what Andre has, so generously, already
Hi All,
I have a question about large data sets (thousands of lines) in a table
object and the slowing down of the UI performance, especially on resizing
the stack.
My application interfaces to an MS SQL 2000 database via ODBC. No problem
there.
The SQL table I have has over half a million
René Micout wrote:
Hello,
Is PlayCommand (Shakobox) run with Rev 2.9 ?
The playback works but the example stack seems to be broken. No messages
are sent to the buttons, changes aren't recorded, and the tab button
script is not triggered with a menupick. It is acting like the
background
If you participated in the Revolution SuperBundle or our 10th anniversary
special offer, Id like to direct your attention to a forum post on
miryesoftware.ning.com
(http://miryesoftware.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=1985969%3ATopic%3A602)
and a Getting Started FAQ page
Hi Mark,
This has been discussed before ;-)
In 2005, september 25
Mark Waddingham wrote,
in the message:
put url some url into someVar...
Mark Schonewille was trying to do something very similar a while ago and
filed an enhancement request about being able to do md5 digests on large
files
Hi All,
I have a number of applications that communicate with each other
using TCP/IP Sockets. For a given application, I want to be able to
connect it to a number of server applications, however the server
apps make or may not be running, so what I want to be able to do is
to issue an
Alejandro, I don't think the process described by Mark Waddingham
will produce the same result as getting the digest of the whole file,
no matter what chunk size you use. But I'm sure he's right that the
result will produce very little chance of collision.
If your computer has openssl
Thank you Jacqueline,
My question was about PlayCommand... Shakobox for precision...
If I have understand (understood ?) the PlayCommand work normally ?
René
Le 21 févr. 08 à 20:14, J. Landman Gay a écrit :
René Micout wrote:
Hello,
Is PlayCommand (Shakobox) run with Rev 2.9 ?
The playback
Mark, you might store the data from the database in a custom property
of the table field, and only show as much data as will fit in the
field at it's current size.
You'd have to write your own scrolling routines to update the
display, but it can be done.
Best,
Mark
On 21 Feb 2008, at
--- mfstuart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi All,
I have a question about large data sets (thousands
of lines) in a table
object and the slowing down of the UI performance,
especially on resizing
the stack.
My application interfaces to an MS SQL 2000 database
via ODBC. No problem
there.
René Micout wrote:
Thank you Jacqueline,
My question was about PlayCommand... Shakobox for precision...
If I have understand (understood ?) the PlayCommand work normally ?
Yes, it seems to work fine.
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Hi all,
(First, i wrote this message in 2005, so it´s worth repeating given
the actual interest about RR stacks on the internet.)
Have anyone given a try to implement
rsync protocols and algorithms using
only RR clients applications?
http://samba.anu.edu.au/rsync/
Jan Schenkel wrote:
Now when large record sets are returned from a
search, the UI (user
interface) slows down, especially when resizing the
stack to see more
records in the table object. When resizing with no
records, the UI is
performs normally with fast resizing.
...
The problem is
--- Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jan Schenkel wrote:
Now when large record sets are returned from a
search, the UI (user
interface) slows down, especially when resizing
the
stack to see more
records in the table object. When resizing with
no
records, the UI is
Me too!
I've used ScreenSteps to create docs for client work - using it to show
how RevOnRockets works is a *great* idea!
Phil Davis
Trevor DeVore wrote:
On Feb 21, 2008, at 7:12 AM, Luis wrote:
Sounds like a good job for ScreenSteps... ;)
You rang? :-)
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Hi Mark,
thanks for the tip in the right direction.
After playing around and trying to understand what´s that all about unicode
i found that these two lines will do what i want
put uniencode(tXml,UTF-16) into utf16
put unidecode(utf16,UTF8) into tXml
Now my selfmade XMl-file can be
Very interested Chipp. Andre and I will be using it in a couple of projects
coming up and I really need to get on top of it.
Love this Rev community, good spirit of generosity
Big thanks to Andre
Cheers
Chris
On 21/2/08 10:01 PM, Chipp Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Part II
So, the
OK, Let's do this! I'm putting together a quick Hemingway website where we
can start all of this. I'm hoping to have something up there soon for you
all to look at.
Trevor, thanks for the SS offer-- we may wish to take you up on that. I'll
get w/you offline.
-C
Hi Dave,
I don't have time to write sample code right now, but one approach would be:
- set the socketTimeoutInterval to something reasonable
- make a 'connectToServerApp' handler that opens one socket, using the
params passed to it by 'startClient'
- let 'StartClient' do this once for each
I haven't tried storing data in a custom property as yet, but wouldn't that
render the same lack of performance behavior, where putting the data into a
stack of the UI?
Mark Stuart
masmit wrote:
Mark, you might store the data from the database in a custom property
of the table field, and
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 9:21 AM, mfstuart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I haven't tried storing data in a custom property as yet, but wouldn't that
render the same lack of performance behavior, where putting the data into a
stack of the UI?
No, because the engine doesn't have to think about how
Hi Richard,
My day job is a software engineer, using another software development tool -
eDeveloper.
The product we build (CRM) is for enterprise sized companies, working on
large amounts of SQL data.
eDeveloper does not produce this UI lack of performance during runtime. This
is how I noticed
Hi Jan,
Where the reading of the SQL data and loading into a table object is not
quite the issue here, never the less, it is an issue I haven't dealt with as
yet in this application.
But I will try your approach, copying your script to an archive for future
pondering.
This current issue is the
mfstuart wrote:
My day job is a software engineer, using another software development tool -
eDeveloper.
The product we build (CRM) is for enterprise sized companies, working on
large amounts of SQL data.
eDeveloper does not produce this UI lack of performance during runtime. This
is how I
Further to my Japanese (UTF-8) encoding problem with Rev-cgi and MySQL.
One possible source of the problem is the character set of the server, which,
in my case, differs from the character set of my database. Assuming that
I cannot change the server's character set, one workaround I've read of is
Hi Richard,
I did as you suggested and copied 8 columns of data (20,844 lines) into this
new stack.
Just a table object on the card - no scripts (except your 'on resizeStack'
in the stack), no other objects.
resize result: same slow behavior :(
Any other thoughts on that?
Mark Stuart
Richard
Hello Chip and Andre,
I'm following this thread closely and would love tutorial examples!
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Elementary Software
(Now with 20% less chalk dust !)
web http://elementarysoftware.com/
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mfstuart wrote:
I did as you suggested and copied 8 columns of data (20,844 lines) into this
new stack.
Just a table object on the card - no scripts (except your 'on resizeStack'
in the stack), no other objects.
resize result: same slow behavior :(
Any other thoughts on that?
How much data is
Mark,
Are you using a table object, or a regular scrolling field with the
hGrid and vGrid properties turned on? The former is an emulated
control which may slow down significantly, while the latter should be
significantly faster.
In the past, I've managed to put data on the order of 20
Hi Sarah,
That sounds promising, especially reading prior threads on the same custom
property concept.
(A thought on this concept of copying data to a custom property - wouldn't
it consume large amounts of the users computer memory/resources?)
But this is a multi-user application, where many
Hi Sarah,
That sounds promising, especially reading prior threads on the same custom
property concept.
(A thought on this concept of copying data to a custom property - wouldn't
it consume large amounts of the users computer memory/resources?)
The data was there already. I actually
Hi Richard,
I'm at home now. looking at this...
As I mentioned in my previous listing, 20, 30, or 5 lines can be found,
depends on the users search criteria. My example was 20,844 lines).
The record length for the table is 255 (counting up the SQL definition
lengths for all columns)
On the
Table appearance in a scrolling field can also be accomplished just
using tabs.
Check out the table pulldown on the object inspector
uncheck table object
check hgrid and or vgrid
grid lines color can be subtle
If I use this object, is there a way to set it to columnar appearance?
And
Jacque,
I did confirm that 2.9 dp3 works as long as the first line has the -ui
switch:
#!revolution -ui
I would imagine the dp 4 is the same. Just thought you should know.
-C
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Hi Mark,
Certainly links to the tutes can be put there, but Andre and I have a
website started and I think we're still deciding on the best format for the
tutes.
-Chipp
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Jacque,
I did confirm that 2.9 dp3 works as long as the first line has the -ui
switch:
#!revolution -ui
I would imagine the dp 4 is the same. Just thought you should know.
Beat you to it. Tried it last night and you're right, it works.
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Hi all,
I'm sure three's an easy way to do this but how do I block the user from
saving by pressing control s?
Tom
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On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 2:39 PM, Tom Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
I'm sure three's an easy way to do this but how do I block the user from
saving by pressing control s?
If you have your own menus, there is no need to put a Save command in
there, in which case the shortcut will do
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 9:17 AM, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Is there an easy way to do this in script?
Ah my favourite pass time :-)
Probably no use to you Richard as I believe this is for personal use only as
it requires PDF2RTFService from Devon Systems:
On Feb 22, 2008, at 5:28 AM, Kay C Lan wrote:
Probably no use to you Richard as I believe this is for personal use
only as
it requires PDF2RTFService from Devon Systems:
http://www.devon-technologies.com/products/freeware/services.html
I quickly checked the web-site but couldn't find
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