Re: Making "Real Stack" invisible

2008-09-21 Thread Terry Judd
Hi Joe - do you mean that the file is invisible to the user and the stack is visible or vice versa? If it's the former then the filename should begin with a period (.) If it's the latter then just use... open inv stack "myStack" HTH, Terry... On 22/9/08 4:23 PM, "Joe Lewis Wilkins" <[EMAIL PRO

Making "Real Stack" invisible

2008-09-21 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Yeah, I'm a nuisance! (smile) Now that I have a Splash Screen stack as a standalone, I'd like to make the "real stack" that it will open invisible so the user is not even aware that there is one. I know there used to be a way to may files invisible from the Finder, but I no longer find this

Re: returning result from a function when the number of items in the result varies

2008-09-21 Thread Ken Ray
> So the number of lines in the KEYS of myArray is not a good test to see if > an array has data or even how many lines of data are in the array. True. Here's some basic tests (-> means "returns"): Is a Variable an Array? -- Rev 2.x: the keys of --> If em

Windows Version using Splash Screen

2008-09-21 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Hi Gang, It just dawned on me, as I start finalizing things, that my Studio Rev 3.0 will produce a Windows XP compatible standalone of the Splash screen stack, but then I have a problem with having a Windows compatible "stack" to use with it. How do I get that except by using the Enterpri

Re: RESTRAINING THE PENCIL IN REV

2008-09-21 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Joe, I feel for you. I just started having problems with my eyesight. apparently twenty years of computer use has it's price. An idea: Why not write/design your own palette with larger icons? It would take some work but then you would always be able to quickly see them. Just a thought

Re: RESTRAINING THE PENCIL IN REV

2008-09-21 Thread J. Landman Gay
Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Sarah, I should have said "Line Paint Tool".That's the one that Devin showed me how to find by pressing down on the curve tool until a small popup that allows you to select Line Tool or Freehand Tool. Second icon from the left in the middle row of the Paint Tools. T

Re: RESTRAINING THE PENCIL IN REV

2008-09-21 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Finally found the paint line size popup. It is so small and hard to see; and I thought Devin meant it was higher up, right under and not separate from the Curve Line Tool popup. Works too. They really need to make the tools on this palette larger, but I guess that won't happen. Guess I need

Re: RESTRAINING THE PENCIL IN REV

2008-09-21 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Both the Line tool and the Line Paint tool both work with there own separate Line size popups here for me in 3.0 Tom McGrath On Sep 21, 2008, at 10:46 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sarah, I should have said "Line

Re: RESTRAINING THE PENCIL IN REV

2008-09-21 Thread Sarah Reichelt
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sarah, > > I should have said "Line Paint Tool".That's the one that Devin showed me how > to find by pressing down on the curve tool until a small popup that allows > you to select Line Tool or Freehand Tool. Second ic

Re: RESTRAINING THE PENCIL IN REV

2008-09-21 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Sarah, I should have said "Line Paint Tool".That's the one that Devin showed me how to find by pressing down on the curve tool until a small popup that allows you to select Line Tool or Freehand Tool. Second icon from the left in the middle row of the Paint Tools. Sorry for the mistake in

Re: RESTRAINING THE PENCIL IN REV

2008-09-21 Thread Sarah Reichelt
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Sarah, Tom and Dave, > > I saw that and had tried it, but it only works with the object line tool; > not the line paste tool. I'm sure it should, so that it doesn't IS A BUG! > You've lost me now :-) Where is the "

Re: RESTRAINING THE PENCIL IN REV

2008-09-21 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Hi Sarah, Tom and Dave, I saw that and had tried it, but it only works with the object line tool; not the line paste tool. I'm sure it should, so that it doesn't IS A BUG! Joe Wilkins On Sep 21, 2008, at 7:01 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: It's on my version (3.0.0 build 750, Mac OS X 10.5.5)

Re: RESTRAINING THE PENCIL IN REV

2008-09-21 Thread Sarah Reichelt
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Joe Lewis Wilkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Devin, apparently they hid this so well that they forgot to implement it in > 3.0. It's just not there; period! > And if it were, I'd have trouble finding it with my poor vision. (smile) But > thanks. Maybe the lack of

Re: RESTRAINING THE PENCIL IN REV

2008-09-21 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Joe, It is here in 3.0 for me. if you select either line tool it there for you to select any line size. It looks like a gray thin line with increasingly thicker lines below it and it is very small. Tom On Sep 21, 2008, at 9:46 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Devin, apparently they hid this so

Re: RESTRAINING THE PENCIL IN REV

2008-09-21 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Devin, apparently they hid this so well that they forgot to implement it in 3.0. It's just not there; period! And if it were, I'd have trouble finding it with my poor vision. (smile) But thanks. Maybe the lack of it should be reported as a bug? Joe Wilkins On Sep 21, 2008, at 6:19 PM, Devin

Re: RESTRAINING THE PENCIL IN REV

2008-09-21 Thread Devin Asay
On Sep 21, 2008, at 1:04 AM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: And, if they would also allow you to make the lines wider than a single pixel; that would help greatly. Well, they hide that, too. :-) When you select the line painting tool a line thickness tool appears just to the right and beneath the

Re: Uncomment in 3.0

2008-09-21 Thread Paul Looney
Does not work for me, either. OS X 10.4.11. Paul Looney On Sep 21, 2008, at 4:01 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Doesn't work for me using 3.0 and Leopard, either. I suspect it has to do with them using the underline character AND Command/Shift rather than the minus sign and Command/Shift, whic

Re: RESTRAINING THE PENCIL IN REV - RESOLVED

2008-09-21 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
I know I can always view things larger using Command/Option +, but doing so all the time is a bit much. Incidentally, one of the side advantages of using the splash screen approach is that you can build the standalone and continue to make changes in the "real stack" forever. That's good. (s

Re: RESTRAINING THE PENCIL IN REV - RESOLVED

2008-09-21 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Hi Jacque, Well, my intuition about not closing the stack was correct, but it wasn't working before because of a failure of my eyesight to pick up a space I had put in the stacks name. Once I discovered that and backtracked to remove the "close this stack", things work as they should. Thi

Re: Uncomment in 3.0

2008-09-21 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Doesn't work for me using 3.0 and Leopard, either. I suspect it has to do with them using the underline character AND Command/Shift rather than the minus sign and Command/Shift, which is what it is. Joe Wilkins On Sep 21, 2008, at 3:53 PM, James Hurley wrote: Jim, I have only had this pro

Re: Uncomment in 3.0

2008-09-21 Thread James Hurley
Message: 7 Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 23:32:55 -0700 From: Jim Ault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Uncomment in 3.0 To: How to use Revolution Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" On 9/20/08 10:38 PM, "James Hurley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Anyone

Re: RESTRAINING THE PENCIL IN REV

2008-09-21 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
AND... Even when I did a build, the very same thing occurred; the Splash screen stack opens and just sits there, finally closing. Interestingly enough, the Stackrunner, which is nearby, opens "myRealStack" and it works just fine; or appears to with limited testing. Sometimes I wonder if you

Re: Mail merge--again

2008-09-21 Thread James Hurley
Message: 3 Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 00:46:45 -0500 From: "J. Landman Gay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Mail merge--again To: How to use Revolution Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed James Hurley wrote: I tried your suggestion, but I o

Re: RESTRAINING THE PENCIL IN REV

2008-09-21 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
And once I did, it closed the "Splash screen" stack, but didn't open "myRealStack" - different name of course. So...? Joe Wilkins On Sep 21, 2008, at 3:10 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Jacque, (my guardian angel!) Thanks for the support. Actually, I'm doing exactly what you've suggested, b

Re: RESTRAINING THE PENCIL IN REV

2008-09-21 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Jacque, (my guardian angel!) Thanks for the support. Actually, I'm doing exactly what you've suggested, but it's not opening "myRealStack" (smile). The only difference is that I didn't include the statement "close this stack", since I thought that probably wouldn't work; and I never got bac

Re: RESTRAINING THE PENCIL IN REV

2008-09-21 Thread J. Landman Gay
Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Good to know, Ken. this time I think I'll go with the Splash screen once I figure out exactly how to tie it to my original stack; I assume it has to do with making my stack a substack of a new mainstack (the Splash screen stack); not quite as easily done as I thought, b

Re: RESTRAINING THE PENCIL IN REV

2008-09-21 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Good to know, Ken. this time I think I'll go with the Splash screen once I figure out exactly how to tie it to my original stack; I assume it has to do with making my stack a substack of a new mainstack (the Splash screen stack); not quite as easily done as I thought, but...! Thanks for you

Re: repeat structure

2008-09-21 Thread Ken Ray
> Hi gang, > I am trying to make a repeat structure that deals with an unknown number of > images located along a given line. > The line is the diagonal of a currently selected group. > How can I define that line and does it have to be actually be drawn before > referring to it? If you only care a

Re: Restraining the pencil in Rev

2008-09-21 Thread Ken Ray
> Thank you for your input. If, as I probably will, I continue to hit a > stonewall with my current approach - since the standalone already > works quite well - I will either try the splash screen approach, or > utilize the Stackrunner and just keep everything as stacks. The latter > not being a t

Re: RESTRAINING THE PENCIL IN REV

2008-09-21 Thread Ken Ray
> Would it then be possible from a standalone to save it as a stack and > then use StackRunner to open that stack? I'm assuming that the > Standalone would not be able to open a stack file? I've never tried > StackRunner, so I don't know what its capabilities are. And it may be > distributed along

[OT] FREE button construction

2008-09-21 Thread Richmond Mathewson
Far cash-strapped types like me the following was a really lovely discovery: http://www.buttonbuilderapp.com/ ( Mac OS ) sincerely, Richmond Mathewson A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. _

Re: Rev 3.0.0 Bulid Standalone fails

2008-09-21 Thread Camm29
Here is a stack using "answer" which fails to build on rev 3.0.0 for windows. Regards - Original Message - From: "J. Landman Gay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "How to use Revolution" Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 7:22 PM Subject: Re: Rev 3.0.0 Bulid Standalone fails > Camm29 wrote: > >

Re: Rev 3.0.0 Bulid Standalone fails

2008-09-21 Thread J. Landman Gay
Camm29 wrote: Cannot delete the "answer dialog" and "ask dialog" stacks that appears from no where ? Ok, try this instead in the message box: put there is a stack "answer dialog" of stack "myStack" If it returns false, then there is a significant bug somewhere and you should run to the dat

Re: Rev 3.0.0 Bulid Standalone fails

2008-09-21 Thread Camm29
Yes , it builds with 2.9 Regards Camm - Original Message - From: "Joe Lewis Wilkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "How to use Revolution" Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 6:23 PM Subject: Re: Rev 3.0.0 Bulid Standalone fails > You're saying that it DOES build with rev. 2.9? > > Joe Wilkins >

Re: Printing

2008-09-21 Thread J. Landman Gay
Bill Vlahos wrote: I remember seeing tutorials to printing features in 2.9 but I can't find them now. Can someone enlighten me please? Documentation -> Getting Started -> In Depth -> Printing: the basics -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software

Re: returning result from a function when the number of items in the result varies

2008-09-21 Thread william humphrey
Thanks again. I've got it now. I've noticed that the put number of lines in the keys of myarray -- returns a number that is the same whether or not an element in the array contains data. So the number of lines in the KEYS of myArray is not a good test to see if an array has data or even how many l

Re: Rev 3.0.0 Bulid Standalone fails

2008-09-21 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
You're saying that it DOES build with rev. 2.9? Joe Wilkins On Sep 21, 2008, at 10:19 AM, Camm29 wrote: Joe , I have tried most things , but it only fails to build in rev 3.0.0 Regards ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runr

Using a Splas screen

2008-09-21 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Hi Tom, Thanks for your fine, detailed explanation. I always understood the problem, but the splash screen solution seemed so convoluted that I have, stubbornly, refused to go in that direction. It would seem this old dog needs to learn a new trick - or two. (smile) I still like the idea

Re: Rev 3.0.0 Bulid Standalone fails

2008-09-21 Thread Camm29
Joe , I have tried most things , but it only fails to build in rev 3.0.0 Regards - Original Message - From: "Joe Lewis Wilkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "How to use Revolution" Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 4:04 PM Subject: Re: Rev 3.0.0 Bulid Standalone fails > Hi Camm, > > I'm no

Re: Guides Picker incompatible with glx2

2008-09-21 Thread René Micout
Bonsoir Eric, Désolé !!! My english is so poor ! Bon courage René Le 21 sept. 08 à 18:52, Eric Chatonet a écrit : As I said, as soon as I get a chance, I'll release version 2.3 that will take into account GLX2 users: Not got this chance yet :-) __

Re: Restraining the pencil in Rev

2008-09-21 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Robert, Thank you for your input. If, as I probably will, I continue to hit a stonewall with my current approach - since the standalone already works quite well - I will either try the splash screen approach, or utilize the Stackrunner and just keep everything as stacks. The latter not be

Re: Guides Picker incompatible with glx2

2008-09-21 Thread Eric Chatonet
Bonsoir René, As I said, as soon as I get a chance, I'll release version 2.3 that will take into account GLX2 users: Not got this chance yet :-) Le 21 sept. 08 à 18:49, René Micout a écrit : Bonjour Eric, When I go on http://www.sosmartsoftware.com I can upload 2.2 version, but where is 2

Printing

2008-09-21 Thread Bill Vlahos
I remember seeing tutorials to printing features in 2.9 but I can't find them now. Can someone enlighten me please? Bill Vlahos Sent from my iPhone ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, u

Re: Guides Picker incompatible with glx2

2008-09-21 Thread René Micout
Bonjour Eric, When I go on http://www.sosmartsoftware.com I can upload 2.2 version, but where is 2.3 version ? Merci René Le 21 sept. 08 à 13:16, Eric Chatonet a écrit : Bonjour à tous, I got some emails from René or Stephen telling me that my Guides Picker plugin (last 2.2 version) no lo

Re: Restraining the pencil in Rev

2008-09-21 Thread Robert Brenstein
On 21/09/08 at 08:30 -0700 Joe Lewis Wilkins apparently wrote: I guess this is my day for confusion. (smile) I'm not using a player for any of this. I have a fairly simple stack consisting of some 50 cards, each of which has one or more images and some fields and/or buttons. Using the bucket

Re: returning result from a function when the number of items in the result varies

2008-09-21 Thread Stephen Barncard
The results in examples 1 and 2 were incorrect. put myArray [1] & return into toadMeatList put myArray [2] & return after toadMeatList put myArray [5] after toadMeatList RESULTS--> Jefferson Washington Elvis or in a "regular" loop put "1,2,5" into orderList repeat with n = 1 to numLines put

Re: Restraining the pencil in Rev

2008-09-21 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Hey Joe, I got confused by this at first in building standalones. You're not alone. ;-) You may already know some of this but for anyone following this thread it might help. OK, So you want to build an application that can save 'apparent' document files. Why, because on most Operating s

Re: returning result from a function when the number of items in the result varies

2008-09-21 Thread Stephen Barncard
It's not a list! It's an array. It's not THE NUMBER OF LINES in myArray. it's the number of lines in the KEYS of myArray. Big difference. I'll build a silly array here: set the itemdelimiter to comma put "Jefferson,Washington,Lincoln,Bush,Elvis" into historyList repeat with n = 1 to number of i

Re: repeat structure

2008-09-21 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
On Sep 21, 2008, at 8:37 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: On Sep 21, 2008, at 11:12 AM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Actually, I'm using several calls that utilize rightBottom as the second parameter; along with topLeft as the first one, though there seems to be some confusion as to the arguments one p

Re: Restraining the pencil in Rev

2008-09-21 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Mark, thanks for the guidance. I'll see if I can finally get this to work. I can see there are several concepts that I have yet to master. (smile) Joe Wilkins On Sep 21, 2008, at 8:42 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi Joe, I would start with a template stack. When your standalone starts up,

Re: Restraining the pencil in Rev

2008-09-21 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Joe, I would start with a template stack. When your standalone starts up, it should immediately clone the template and give it a name. For example "Untitled 1". When the user quits or chooses the Save menu item from the File menu, you can show the prompt, asking whether to save or not,

Re: repeat structure

2008-09-21 Thread Colin Holgate
On Sep 21, 2008, at 11:12 AM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Actually, I'm using several calls that utilize rightBottom as the second parameter; along with topLeft as the first one, though there seems to be some confusion as to the arguments one provides in order to get everything to do what you

Re: Restraining the pencil in Rev

2008-09-21 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
I guess this is my day for confusion. (smile) I'm not using a player for any of this. I have a fairly simple stack consisting of some 50 cards, each of which has one or more images and some fields and/or buttons. Using the bucket tool, a user may color inside the lines of the images as they

Re: Guides Picker incompatible with glx2

2008-09-21 Thread Jerry Daniels
Thanks, Eric! Best, Jerry Daniels Daniels & Mara, Inc. Makers of GLX2 http://www.glx2.com On Sep 21, 2008, at 6:16 AM, Eric Chatonet wrote: Bonjour à tous, I got some emails from René or Stephen telling me that my Guides Picker plugin (last 2.2 version) no longer worked for them. I dug in

Re: repeat structure

2008-09-21 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Actually, I'm using several calls that utilize rightBottom as the second parameter; along with topLeft as the first one, though there seems to be some confusion as to the arguments one provides in order to get everything to do what you expect. Either I'm confused - a distinct possibility -

Re: Rev 3.0.0 Bulid Standalone fails

2008-09-21 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Hi Camm, I'm no expert with 3.0, but I'm doing a lot of work using it, so maybe I'll have some ideas for you: On Sep 21, 2008, at 6:23 AM, Camm29 wrote: Cannot delete the "answer dialog" and "ask dialog" stacks that appears from no where ? This confuses me a bit, but I suspect it may be

Re: repeat structure

2008-09-21 Thread Eric Chatonet
Bonjour Barry, If I understand the problem (not sure), you want to deal with all images that are more or less inside a group boundaries: repeat with i = 1 to the number of images if intersect(image i,group ) then select image i end repeat BTW, and letting apart your syntax error when using

Re: returning result from a function when the number of items in the result varies

2008-09-21 Thread william humphrey
My mistake. Please ignore last post. Brain works better in morning. The array is returning correctly. I was just testing the results wrong. It looks like this is going to work and I think that it is much better to use the array as the key is generated by the data identifier and will thus be exactly

Re: repeat structure

2008-09-21 Thread Colin Holgate
On Sep 21, 2008, at 10:31 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For some reason the script Editor does not colour rightBottom red unless the words are separated but then the error is Expression: bad factor - so I am leaving it black. If topleft works you would expect to need bottomright, not rightb

repeat structure

2008-09-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi gang, I am trying to make a repeat structure that deals with an unknown number of images located along a given line. The line is the diagonal of a currently selected group. How can I define that line and does it have to be actually be drawn before referring to it? My attempts so far include:

Re: Rev 3.0.0 Bulid Standalone fails

2008-09-21 Thread Camm29
Cannot delete the "answer dialog" and "ask dialog" stacks that appears from no where ? It happens after "Checking Directories" in the standalone build process. Other strange things happen , like it adds the Stack name to the file description in the standalone settings. The message on failure app

Re: returning result from a function when the number of items in the result varies

2008-09-21 Thread william humphrey
Thanks again. I'm still curious about the array. When I use the "number of lines in myArray" I get the correct answer "1" before I send it out of the function as "myArray" but when I do the same "number of lines in myArray" after it is called then the answer is "0". If I ask for one key in the arra

Guides Picker incompatible with glx2

2008-09-21 Thread Eric Chatonet
Bonjour à tous, I got some emails from René or Stephen telling me that my Guides Picker plugin (last 2.2 version) no longer worked for them. I dug in and found that this plugin is not compatible with GLX2 because GLX2 replaces revmenubar by its own window. As soon as I get a chance, I'll rele

Re: Restraining the pencil in Rev

2008-09-21 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Joe, You can save and open stacks with the same standalone. There is no need for a player. As Richard states, you can use these stacks as documents, in case you need to save custom properties and objects for instance. You can even give these stacks their own extension or file type and,

Re: RESTRAINING THE PENCIL IN REV

2008-09-21 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Hi Richard, Would it then be possible from a standalone to save it as a stack and then use StackRunner to open that stack? I'm assuming that the Standalone would not be able to open a stack file? I've never tried StackRunner, so I don't know what its capabilities are. And it may be distri

Re: RESTRAINING THE PENCIL IN REV

2008-09-21 Thread Richard Gaskin
Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: I've got most all of my problems resolved. Except Saving doesn't work as I'd like it to - for the standalones. The user is allowed to color pictures with the paint bucket, and they can print it, but haven't figured out a way that they can save what they've done. I

Re: Text and not text in a string

2008-09-21 Thread Jim Ault
Good catch, Stephen. Old habits, but cross-platform is the way to go. Correction made :-) Thanks, Jim Ault Las Vegas On 9/21/08 12:10 AM, "Stephen Barncard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Actually the "¬" (which I myself have used for > centuries) has been diminished in favor of "\". > The "¬"

Re: Text and not text in a string

2008-09-21 Thread Stephen Barncard
Actually the "¬" (which I myself have used for centuries) has been diminished in favor of "\". The "¬" is not cross-platform it's there for backward compatibility with imported HC scripts. It's not even in the dictionary anymore. Two more ways ... easier readability to use the continuatio

Re: RESTRAINING THE PENCIL IN REV

2008-09-21 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
And, if they would also allow you to make the lines wider than a single pixel; that would help greatly. Joe Wilkins On Sep 20, 2008, at 10:51 PM, Devin Asay wrote: Actually, Joe, there is a line tool on the paint tools palette. It may not be obvious because it shares a button with the freeh

Re: RESTRAINING THE PENCIL IN REV

2008-09-21 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Hey Devin, thanks but I needed that yesterday. (smile) They sure hid that one away. Really, thanks. I've got most all of my problems resolved. Except Saving doesn't work as I'd like it to - for the standalones. The user is allowed to color pictures with the paint bucket, and they can print