On 3/21/09 4:13 AM, "Randall Reetz" wrote:
> All mosquitos are relevant. It is scale that matters here. Scale and
> reality. Else all of us would be behind bars and prohibited from buying crest
> toothpaste. Fair use and happy customers build brand loyalty faster than fear
> and loathing. No
I didnt know i was conversing with people from north korea and iran. In the
us, japan, canada, mexico, brazil, iceland, south africa, russia, israel,
india, and most of europe, etc. There is a difference between criminal law and
civil contract law. In most moderen democratic societies, the wor
Randall,
Beside your questionable grasp of the law, you are making a straw man
argument. Even if "reasonable man" arguments worked as simply as you
imagine, it wouldn't follow that everything in a EULA other than
copyright is unenforceable. Believe it or not, licensing agreements
cover th
Well you are making a hell of a case for why threats work. Keep believeing in
monsters and the corporate lawyers will keep selling you night lights. Sleep
good. Story time is over.
-Original Message-
From: "Brian Yennie"
To: "How to use Revolution"
Sent: 3/21/2009 1:25 AM
Subject: R
Really, please do tell me of the times you have been sued for breach of a
software user agreement. I cant wait to hear how often this blight has been
brought down apon your small business. Come on. Is this a joke?
-Original Message-
From: "Brian Yennie"
To: "How to use Revolution"
Here's an example just to get you started:
http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/07/15/blizzard-wins-lawsuit-against-bot-makers/
I actually disagree with the judgement and think it sets a dangerous
precedent. But guess what, the boogieman won.
Really, please do tell me of the times you have been sue
Hi Scott,
> I have to say this again, it drives me flippin nuts that I cannot use
> the
> answer dialog to view raw tagged code any more. Any time a string with
> tags
> is answered, the dialog automatically tries to render them. What if
> one
> doesn't want this? What if one wants to debug som
Unlike Brian Yennie most of my work is, by most people's
standards, 'tinkering around', at least insofar as I develo
educational software to be deployed over 4 computers
However, from time to time, 'potential parents' turn up at
my little language school; after a while it becomes clear
that
Dude, i asked you for your own story. There are 60 people on this
planet. I could find you a person who was bitten by a polar bear on the south
pole. That doesnt make it a trend worth worrying about. Sad.
-Original Message-
From: "Brian Yennie"
To: "How to use Revolution"
Sen
Randall Reetz wrote;
"moderen (sic) democratic societies"
I just love those 2 words: 'modern' and 'democratic'.
Both those words (which are fairly vacant semantically) have coursed
more misunderstanding and harm than almost all the other words
in English put together.
Of course while *somebo
Dear Revolution users,
It might be interesting for you to know that DIFfersifier 3.4 is now
available. DIFfersifier is a simple conversion utility that exports
text data from HyperCard, Revolution and MetaCard stacks to files that
can be read by most database applications.
This version o
Yes, and no user agreement will protect you from said behavior. Courts however
will. Are you sure that your schools will loose significant enrollment if a
school system in another country uses your software? If not, why do you care?
I am against any form of stealing, but your example seems o
Dear Randall Reetz,
I owe you an apology for 2 mistakes:
1. I should have written "creativity" rather than "creaticity"
(which sounds like some sort of generic name for an
"enhancement" drug).
2. The post in which I "attacked" your "attack" on Ruslan Zakhuskin
should also have been he
I just read the story you linked me to... i would absolutely agree with the
judgement. But you dont need a user licence to show malicious and fraudulant
use. The court would have come to the same decision had no licence existed.
Stealing is stealing. The "bot" effectively changed the experie
It would be very helpful, Randall, if you could define "downstream clause".
Are these 'downstream clauses'? :
1. That I, as an owner of an instance of Runtime Revolution am not
allowed to use it to produce something that will compete directly
with Runtime Revolution. [something that seems
Uhm :-), looks like I have thrown a bomb into the list (sorry, tried to
avoid this by all means) and again thanks Richmond, Randal, Brian,
Ruslan and others who responded.
Indeed my position is not to take any steps that can spoil credibility
or bona fide of my [small] business. Once you own y
And it's so damn easy to make your own dialogs...
Stephen Barncard
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San Francisco
http://barncard.com
2009/3/21 Jim Bufalini
> Hi Scott,
>
> > I have to say this again, it drives me flippin nuts that I cannot use
> > the
> > answer dialog to view raw tagged code any
Recently, Jim Bufalini wrote:
>> There should be some means to "answer" raw tagged code without
>> rendering.
>
> I have to say I've always considered this a great "feature," which was added
> in I forget what version of Rev, but not too long ago (my sense of time can
> be warped sometimes ;-).
>
Recently, I wrote:
> So why does the answer dialog render HTML? It should not.
And this was written by a guy who "renders" things all day for a living.
Regards,
Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design
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use-revolution ma
That is why they dont matter. For to many years companies have taken such wild
liberty in writing them and the reasonable man doesnt read them at all anyway.
User licenses are mute in the eyes of the court. The binding is in purchace
and use. Even the above clauses would not stand up in cour
Scott Rossi wrote:
So why does the answer dialog render HTML? It should not.
How would you propose passing styled text to the answer command?
The current situation is far from perfect, but for the relatively rare
case where one needs to show HTML tags as content in an answer dialog it
takes
> I didnt know i was conversing with people from north korea
> and iran. In the us, japan, canada, mexico, brazil, iceland,
> south africa, russia, israel, india, and most of europe, etc.
> There is a difference between criminal law and civil contract
> law. In most moderen democratic societi
Recently, Richard Gaskin wrote:
>> So why does the answer dialog render HTML? It should not.
>
> How would you propose passing styled text to the answer command?
If it were up to me, the default would be unstyled raw source, and I would
add a flag that would cause stylizing to take place, perha
HI,
Folks, it being the weekend in the absence of the list mom I hereby declare
this thread is off topic and closed. Please do not continue to post on this
thread. Thanks.
Kind regards,
Kevin
Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/
Runtime Revolution - User-Centric Development
Leadership is not culture, especially in autocratic oppressive dictatorships or
theocracies. However, the culture in such countries end up reflecting the
damage caused by abuse. I refuse to tell lies. The statements i made are to
call attention between rule of rights (not simply rule of law).
Heather...
If Randall Reetz is publically promoting illegal
behaviour for whatever reasoning he sees fit, his access to this user group
should be terminated. Immediately.
I am not interested in his arguments or rationale, nor in seeing this virus
thread continue.
/H
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On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 06:17:22 -0700 Randall Reetz wrote:
".. There are 60 people on this planet. I could
find you a person who was bitten by a polar bear on the south pole. ...
"
I seriously doubt this statement, unless I misinterpreted an intended metaphore
Would someone who is familiar with Linux do a test for me?
I have a program built on a Mac for Linux and I get an error in Linux
when I try to disable a menuItem. The error is Type: Chunk: no such
object. The syntax looks correct and works on Mac and Windows builds.
I then created a new sta
Hi,
I didn't find the Illegal Creativity thread interesting and thus I
read only a few messages of it. I don't have the impression that
Randall promotes illegal activity. If he does, I assume it is not on
purpose.
I oppose to this call. I also believe that such a public call is most
ina
Is there a good Rev alternative to PowerPoint?
I just attended a conference sponsored by the American Society for
Engineering Education. Most talks said that traditional lectures are not
effective and we need new methods. But almost all speakers gave that
message in traditional lecture format
Nothing in anything i have said or meant could ever be construed to mean i
advocate any form of illegal activity. Because i dont and wouldnt. Period. I
was calling attention to the illegal nature of user agreements when they
contradict law and legal rights. Nothing more nothing less.
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exactly
-Original Message-
From: "Barry Barber"
To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Sent: 3/21/2009 12:05 PM
Subject: RE: illegal creativity?
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 06:17:22 -0700 Randall Reetz wrote:
".. There are 60 people on this planet. I could
find you a p
Hi,
although i do not agree in opinion with Randall, i defeat this call, too.
He did not offend someone nor do i see a real purpose to promoting illegal
activity. At least i did not grasp it as such an activity.
Regards,
Matthias
Original Message
Subject: Re: Call for ban (
I never read threads like this for very long either. Once I see it has
become a wrestling match without any likelihood of a meeting of the
minds, I spend my precious time elsewhere.
Besides, I can watch visually and theatrically superior wrestling on
TV. :o) I don't, but I could.
Phil Davi
Hi,
I am wanting to edit the selected text of a text box on a web page
presented on a card of a stack. As for as I can tell, I can't directly
replace selected text in the text box. Anyone has a way to do this
please share. What I would like to do is press a button and have it
insert text
I started the thread, received all opinions, made my decisions, now
there is no reason it should continue. As the one who started now I
"formally" declare thread "illegal creativity" CLOSED.
Randal replied with intention to give an advice and discuss, and even if
his opinion is quite differen
If I create a Curve Graphic it, initially, has 42 points.
I tried, the other day, to set its points to a list of 10,000 in
a field; and my computer ground to a halt.
Can anybody tell me the maximum number of points a Curve Graphic
can have?
--
Has anyone used Rev to create encrypted passwords that are compatible
with htpasswd to protect areas of your web site? I know absolutely
nothing about encryption. I've spent a few hours poking around the
internet trying to find something that I can use for a utility I need to
make. I found lots
This is a political discussion that has no place here. Please take it
offline.
Stephen Barncard
-
San Francisco
http://barncard.com
2009/3/21 Randall Reetz
> exactly
>
> -Original Message-
> From: "Barry Barber"
> To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
> Sent: 3/21
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Marty Knapp wrote:
> Has anyone used Rev to create encrypted passwords that are compatible with
> htpasswd to protect areas of your web site? I know absolutely nothing about
> encryption. I've spent a few hours poking around the internet trying to find
> something
Bill,
I created a new main stack. On it placed a dropdown menu with the usual
three default choices, and a button with a script reading:
on mouseUp
disable menuItem 2 of menu "test"
end mouseUp
and, as for you, what comes up when I click is
Chunk: no such object
Object Button
Line
Reposting this:
I thought I knew how these things worked. Even HC does this, I just found
out.
Two stacks, "A" and "B". In a button handler on "A":
on mouseUp
wait 200
go stack "A" -- remember, the button is in "A"
end mouseUp
During the wait period, if I click anywhere on stack "B", the
You owe it to yourself to check out Dar Scott's tutorials, including
'Message Mechanics' which can graphically illustrate how Rev's messaging
works.
http://pages.swcp.com/dsc/revstacks.html
Stephen Barncard
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San Francisco
http://barncard.com
2009/3/21 dunbarx
> Repost
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