pieces.
Next step: snap a photo with the web cam so the photo can be turned
into a jigsaw puzzle.
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from a pixel of another image)
Thanks for any pointers you can give me!
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ids to start. Cross-
platform, free, and robust. Lots of good curriculum materials out
there for Scratch.
The middle school kids I teach are 13-14; they do quite well with Rev.
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/java/labs/xLogicCircuitsLab1.html>
If one doesn't exist in RR, I may try writing onebut it won't be
in time for this year's students to use. :-)
Any pointers, either to an existing program, or to how I might
approach this using RR?
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Didn't Lynn just try to quell any "cross" talk on this list? :-)
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Thanks for any pointers (including subject headers of previous threads)
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ould be most appreciated.
Look in /usr/share/dict for the lists of words. You might be able
to use these files for your index-checker.
(As an aside, why wouldn't you want proper nouns in your index if they're
relevant to your topic?)
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eat this up! What other fairly simple XML files are out there to parse
using RunRev? I sense a new set of assignments in the making.
Any pointers to other simple types of RSS would be appreciated.
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hotoshop).
No design view at all (could have used BBEdit instead). And now, as web
content manager for the school, I make all our changes by hand (a terminal
window and vi are a lot faster than Dreamweaver and FTP).
OT, but what the hay.
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> > I understand all this from the docs, but they don't explain the
> > little window that is below the tabs. What is it used for?
>
> Just a border for visual clarity, standar
eck the docs for "menupick"
>
> With "Tabbed buttons" it will accept 2 params!
> The first is the now selected menuitem, the second the previously
> active menuitem!
I understand all this from the docs, but they don't explain the
little window that is below
field, but doesn't seem
to act at all like a field. Or is the "window" part of the tabbed window
just there for decoration?
Thanks for any light you can shed on this,
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which has been made English-like in the
first instance (the setting of the property by using the verb "hide")
can be extended to be English-like in the second instance (accessing
the state of the property by using the adjective "hidden").
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te of the property without knowing explicitly
about it, i.e., what the property's name is? When my students
write
hide field "xxx"
they don't know that what they're really doing is
set the visible of field "xxx" to false
and I'd just as soon keep that level o
ible...
but having to create a construct like
if the visible of field "xxx" is false ...
really baffles them. In this way I think Transcript could indeed be
more English-like.
Oh well, RR isn't intended for raw beginners.is it? :-)
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nor is it "compact," but it
> would be super readable/self-documenting and easy to remember. This is what
> I mean about advancing TransScript.
Even simpler, why can't you say something like
if image "picture" is visible ...
instead of
if the visible of image "
; assume).
There's a two-quarter sequence taught using RR at the University
of Chicago. It's called "Multimedia Programming as an Interdisciplinary
Art".
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seems odd to change audio into video, but this has worked well
for us.
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d never heard
of frappr before this. Is it new? (I notice it's in beta.)
It does seem rather US-centric, doesn't it?
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sn't really pay attention to what's
being taught and I can do my own thing.
I just like to have the arguuments lined up for when the question,
"why use RR to teach programming?" does arise.
Thanks for the support this list has given me!
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t. "The Art of Computer Game Design" was a
great tip. Anyone got any others?
Of course, I have no idea if we'd teach this course in java, in
scheme, in RR, some other environment, or a mixture of the above.
Suggestions?
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rd on steroids, cross-
> platform, blazingly fast, in full color
And what do you say to non-programmers, particularly school administrators
who want to know why we should use this product to teach programming?
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x27;s text tool for "painting"
letters and words. Why did RunRev eliminate that?
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tudents.
Maybe for NECC 2006 I can put together a session on using RR to teach
programming, but don't know if the logistics of a San Diego trip is
feasible. :-)
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That's just what we've been doing: copying over an old system folder.
Seems to work just fine; every classic app I've tried (admittedly, haven't
launched HC since installing Tiger) has worked well.
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we'd like to make software for these teachers to use with their
students, we'll have more success if it's web-deliverable.
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> On Jun 5, 2005, at 2:44 PM, Marty Billingsley wrote:
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> > I know a lot of people disagree, but Flash isn't going away anytime
> > soon, and just about everyone has the shockwave plugin installed.
> > What's wr
veryone has the shockwave plugin installed.
What's wrong with jumping on that bandwagon?
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the archives (they can be sorted by date) if you don't want
your inbox filling up.
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ld just use a utility like DragThing to create a
dock of all your applications so that you can drag a document
and drop it on exactly the application you want to open it in.
Gives you much more control than double-clicking.
BTW, DragThing is a million times better than the OS X dock; don't
thro
've been threatening to). Now is the time to do it;
in a year or two the education market will have settled on a new product.
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er disk quotas, and
RR isn't handling that gracefully.
BTW, we're using xinet on a Sun sparc station to emulate a Mac file
server. Most likely it's a problem with the communication between
application/OS/file server software. Sigh.
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r message when trying to save to a disk that's over quota, instead of
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why it's the default to have images revert to their original
sizes and positions unless locked, and it turns out that that was a
deliberate decision, not a bug the way I thought it was.)
Anyway, is there a reason that Shift-drag doesn't resize proportionately,
or is it an oversight?
che
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d paintRectangle
Of course you can make it fancier by adding parameters for
line thickness, line color, fill color, making the function
set the tool choice back to whatever it was when the
function was called, etc.
Have fun!
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uot; picture instead. I don't
> find out how use the paint tools in a script.
Open the message box and experiment with the following series of
commands:
choose brush tool
drag from 100,100 to 200,200
Does that help give you ideas of the ways you might use the paint
tools in a
s to have to differentiate between their
own bugs and software bugs is difficult!
The only fix I can see is to delete the image and re-import it.
We're using 2.5 on OS X. If anyone can figure out why this happens and how to
prevent it, I'd be very grateful.
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r is
passed to the button when you mouse over it. Very confusing.
Anyone got a clear explanation why this is desirable? (I've been
telling my students that it's a bug in the way the software is written,
but perhaps it's really a feature)
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> "Lynch, Jonathan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> I have a friend who worked in the U.K. for a few months. When she first got
> there, she wore her waist pack to work. This is a thing that wraps around
> your hips and has a pouch for carrying stuff. One day she she had set it
> down, and was looking f
we have no means of ripping to MP3.
>
> Audion (www.panic.com) should do most if not all of what you mention (plus,
> it's now free).
Or, you could just use the original iTunes, which runs in in Classic.
Google "iTunes mac classic&
ersity
than we used to be, but were never "managed" by
them in the modern sense. We're less exploratory
and more college prep than in days gone by, but
still do some fun things with curriculum.
www.ucls.uchicago.edu if you're interested.
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later in the game.
Only one student has implemented a game where the game state was
saved -- mostly because I don't teach them about saving to external
text files (because I don't understand the file paths myself:-).
As I've said before, I'm finding Rev to be a great
ly
well done! (She admitted that doing a text-based game was underutilizing
Rev's features, but she wanted to do it anyway.)
So, what is a game template, and might one help my students?
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I read this as a parody -- never occured to me that anyone
might take it seriously. Try reading it out loud in a
thick russian accent, like Tom Lehrer in Lobachevsky.
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> You never know with higher ed these days.
>
> Sigh...
>
> Judy
>
> On Sun, 12 Dec 2004, Bill wrote:
>
> > I agree with
StillDown message.
Thanks for any hints you can give me.
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t takes
a shot of the whole screen; use a graphics editor to crop.
There is also great third-party screen shot software available.
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> On 10/18/04 8:39 PM, Erik Hansen wrote:
> >>On Oct 18, 2004, at 10:17 AM,
> >>Marty Billingsley wrote:
> >
> >>We miss HC's sound capabilities,
> >>but are using Shakobox to compensate.
>
Bill Vlahos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Oct 18, 2004, at 10:17 AM, Marty Billingsley wrote:
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> > I'm using Revolution to teach beginning programming to 8th grade
> > students (US 8th grade, that is; kids are 13-14 years old). The
> > course is a carry
amming to 8th grade
students (US 8th grade, that is; kids are 13-14 years old). The
course is a carryover from an old HyperCard course. We miss HC's
sound capabilities, but are using Shakobox to compensate.
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.g., count until a specific number is reached, then take action)
Assign actions to objects
Assign selected interactive feature to an object
(e.g., mouseover causes selected action)
What else should we add; what can I suggest that will really set Rev off
from the rest of the crowd? :-)
TIA,
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ial number is longer
than the spaces provided in the registration box.
Any clues as to how to upgrade a studio license? I emailed Rev's
support but haven't heard back, and we've got to get our computer
image complete and installed in the lab by the time students return
on Tuesday.
Thanks,
great. A steeper learning curve, but much easier to work with
when combining text and graphics, and much more flexible. Quark
should be much the same (never used it).
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You end up with a certain number of pixels. How you deal with them is
just like dealing with any other graphic; you can make it smaller (in inches)
and increase the resolution for printing; you can't make it bigger, for
either print or on-screen display, without losing quality an
ou'd use if you needed to make PC screenshots.
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io File and broswe for the sound you want. Then use the "play"
command within Rev to play the sound.
As I said, we have CDs of these sounds, from FTC Publishing, but there
are probably lots of sound effects for free out on the Web.
have fun!
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Kurt Kaufman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
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> The music notation program "Finale" has a rather steep learning curve
> and many, many tools that do very specific things in terms of notation,
> precise page layout and symbol design. In the latest release there are
> included a dozen or so "Flash" movi
Marian Petrides <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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> On Jul 7, 2004, at 11:14 PM, Marty Billingsley wrote:
> > Er.so how *do* you use the Search Documentation tool?
> The point wasn't how Mark or I use it, the point was how someone who is
> just starting out uses it. S
ing class. Of
course, if the students already understand global vs local variables from
other languages (or previous assignments in Rev), then introduce custom
properties.
I use global vars with my students for pretty much the same thing as
Judy does. It's a beginning-beginning programming cl
y." What do
> you get? Nada, nil, nichts, nothing.
>
> The point being that the cognoscenti know to use the Search
> Documentation tool, but a rank beginner would not.
Er.so how *do* you use the Search Documentation tool?
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hese are 8th graders; the easier the
interface the better.
The current behavior makes one of my beginning assignments, a
flip-card animation, really tedious to do. (I'm reluctant to
give up the assignment, as it's how I introduce loops.)
Now if there were a control key that you coul
Mark Talluto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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> On Jun 10, 2004, at 9:43 AM, Marty Billingsley wrote:
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> > Is there any other software that really works in this manner?
> > Photoshop, for example, keeps track of the original dimensions
> > so you can revert or s
resized image stays on your web page. Somebody
mentioned MS Word, but it, too, behaves as I would expect.
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> > > Why on earth does RR do this? It drives my students crazy.
> > > Why do you have to lock the size of an image to keep it the size
> > > you set it? Is this a feature or a bug?
> >
> >I find it useful: as with web pages, the default is to resize the image
> >to its natural size
e size of an image to keep it the size
you set it? Is this a feature or a bug?
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will help shed light.
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top of it, the mouseDown message won't get through.
If you want the user to be able to drag the object, try:
on mouseStillDown
set the loc of me to the mouseLoc
end mouseStillDown
or, for a smoother drag:
on mouseDown
grab me
end mouseDown
Hope this helps,
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s product:
> http://www.macxware.com/candypress/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=25
If you're interested in looking at some really well-made tutorial videos,
check out atomiclearning.com. It's subscription-based, but some tutorials
are free. I use these as my model when I make tuto
(top posted, 'cos I included three replies down below)
Thanks for the answers. To reply to jbv, structures were
indeed created to combine different data types, which isn't
an issue in Transcript. However, they have the advantage
over multi-dimensional arrays in that you don't have to
remember th
lel arrays, but it seems cleaner to
use a struct. Is it possible?
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image, rectangle, or whatever). In the mouseStillDown handler, add
the line:
if the loc of me is within the rect of image "container"
then .
Again, this is a pretty simple way to do it; doesn't check to see if
the whole area of the image is within the container.
time on syntax and more time on
the bigger picture (how to design good programs, etc.).
One more way in which Rev could be a great tool in the education
environment!
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ut this very solution that Jeanne suggests:
>
> How to do it?
>
> Sorry if this is a dumb question...
Me too. How do I do it?
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Richard Gaskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> asks
>Marty Billingsley wrote:
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>> That said, the RR user interface isn't as friendly toward
>> students as it could be, but we're coping. :-)
>
>If you could make three changes to the Rev UI what would they be?
Have to t
other teachers turned to
HyperStudio: I was able to teach fundamental programming
concepts with HC, which are buried too deep behind a simple
user interface in HyperStudio.
That said, the RR user interface isn't as friendly toward
students as it could be, but we're coping. :-)
I hope tha
hat on a
Windows machine closing the last document of an application will
quit that app, while on the Mac, the app stays open.
Maybe this is addressed in the Apple User Interface Guidelines
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is capability but don't know if I safely dare.
In HyperCard if you did a 'start using' you had access to all of the
resources in that stack. I had just assumed that RunRev followed that
model and have been using it that way. My vote is for for "feature" --
it's somewha
even though the
program is a bit expensive for a school to buy (so is Hyperstudio;
HC had a site license deal that fitted our budget nicely).
The discussion of the book market has been interesting because my
"recipes" will easily translate into the sort of book that teachers
used to use w
the kid
look up the answer -- it's good practice for them). I wish there were
an RR equivalent: a reference book that offers some basic explanation
of how things work and lots and lots of examples. Anyone want to write
it? In time for fall '03
resource? How do I do that? Are there
any built-in sounds?
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