Re: [OT] Cringely on BootCamp's future

2006-04-20 Thread Bob Warren
Stephen Barncard wrote: Hell, I don't want to start a platform war on this list - the thing is that Rev brings us together - and platform wars are boring and stupid. - Yes, we're all a bit up tight. But I wouldn't call a mildly argumentative discussion war, at least not yet! The

Re: [OT] Cringely on BootCamp's future

2006-04-20 Thread Bob Warren
Francis Nugent Dixon wrote: Hi from Paris, Just a minor point about Brazil, apart from it being the most fantastic country. Anything that is imported into Brazil costs an arm and a leg, due to exhorbitant import taxes. The basic idea is, Buy Brazilian (even when it doesn't exist). I remember

Re: [OT] Cringely on BootCamp's future

2006-04-19 Thread Bob Warren
Chipp Walters / Richard Gaskin wrote: Spoke too quick. Turns out the Mac Mini I was referring to was not a Core Duo but Core Solo. Bummer. So, now a 1.66Ghz, 1GB memory, 100Gb hard drive MacMini costs $959 (without tax). Add a OEM version of WinXP Home and you're up over $1000. I can get way

Re: [OT] Cringely on BootCamp's future

2006-04-19 Thread Bob Warren
Richard Gaskin /Chipp Walters wrote: Or blow off both OS vendors and cut the price in half by getting just about any Linux pre-installed system. Yeah, let me know how Rev on Linux goes. I'm right behind the well-worn path you blaze! Dan Shafer wrote: But as soon as Linux support for Rev is

Re: [OT] Cringely on BootCamp's future

2006-04-19 Thread Mark Smith
Why on earth is a mac mini three times as expensive in Brazil as in the US? Is it Apple, local distributors or some kind of tax? Surely, if not a tax (in which case, it's not a question of business logic), there's some kind of opportunity for someone there. Best, Mark On 19 Apr 2006, at

Re: [OT] Cringely on BootCamp's future

2006-04-19 Thread Wolfgang Bereuter
On 19.04.2006, at 07:16, Chipp Walters wrote: Hi Chip, I hape I can say it english as i could in german. Let me try: I dont understand why you are whining so often about the Mac prices and the good old times of great tools. Anf praises the glory of Win all the time. The computer I would

Re: [OT] Cringely on BootCamp's future

2006-04-19 Thread Bob Warren
Mark Smith wrote: Why on earth is a mac mini three times as expensive in Brazil as in the US? Is it Apple, local distributors or some kind of tax? Surely, if not a tax (in which case, it's not a question of business logic), there's some kind of opportunity for someone there.

Re: [OT] Cringely on BootCamp's future

2006-04-19 Thread Stephen Barncard
On comparing the 'Mac Experience' to Linux on an Intel box on price alone -- I can't believe some of the pros here can't tell the difference. And yes, UBUNTU is very good these days. Looks ok on a Mac. But for me, it's not only the OS, but the quality of the hardware (not the lowest bidder).

Re: [OT] Cringely on BootCamp's future

2006-04-19 Thread Mark Smith
Here, in the UK, the Apple Store offers that machine for 599 UKP, which currently is 1073 USD, 911 without UK tax. The US Apple Store offers it for 799 USD, so it would seem that Apple are charging UK customers a premium of 112 USD. We brits have complained about this for years, but to no

Re: [OT] Cringely on BootCamp's future

2006-04-19 Thread Francis Nugent Dixon
Hi from Paris, Just a minor point about Brazil, apart from it being the most fantastic country. Anything that is imported into Brazil costs an arm and a leg, due to exhorbitant import taxes. The basic idea is, Buy Brazilian (even when it doesn't exist). I remember arriving in Brazil to do a 2

Re: [OT] Cringely on BootCamp's future

2006-04-19 Thread Bob Warren
Mark Smith wrote: Why on earth is a mac mini three times as expensive in Brazil as in the US? Is it Apple, local distributors or some kind of tax? Surely, if not a tax (in which case, it's not a question of business logic), there's some kind of opportunity for someone there.

Re: [OT] Cringely on BootCamp's future

2006-04-18 Thread Dan Shafer
Ah, but Chipp, the fly in your ointment (oooh, ugly metaphor) is the word just. The premium buys you (in the best scenario): * more secure Vista * more stable Vista * OS X and all its charms (BTW, I blogged this one at http://www.danshafer.com/onemind/?q=node/98 On 4/17/06, Chipp Walters

Re: [OT] Cringely on BootCamp's future

2006-04-18 Thread Chipp Walters
Dan, Vista's not even out and who knows if it ever will be? And even then, who knows what the security issues will be... certainly not our friend Cringely. For me to pay a 33% premium now on _THAT BET_, a computer which doesn't even have a Windows key (yes, I do use the Windows key a bunch),

Re: [OT] Cringely on BootCamp's future

2006-04-18 Thread Chipp Walters
Spoke too quick. Turns out the Mac Mini I was referring to was not a Core Duo but Core Solo. Bummer. So, now a 1.66Ghz, 1GB memory, 100Gb hard drive MacMini costs $959 (without tax). Add a OEM version of WinXP Home and you're up over $1000. I can get way much more down at the CompUSA for way

Re: [OT] Cringely on BootCamp's future

2006-04-18 Thread Richard Gaskin
Chipp Walters wrote: Spoke too quick. Turns out the Mac Mini I was referring to was not a Core Duo but Core Solo. Bummer. So, now a 1.66Ghz, 1GB memory, 100Gb hard drive MacMini costs $959 (without tax). Add a OEM version of WinXP Home and you're up over $1000. I can get way much more down at

Re: [OT] Cringely on BootCamp's future

2006-04-18 Thread Chipp Walters
Richard Gaskin wrote: Or blow off both OS vendors and cut the price in half by getting just about any Linux pre-installed system. Yeah, let me know how Rev on Linux goes. I'm right behind the well-worn path you blaze! -C ___ use-revolution

Re: [OT] Cringely on BootCamp's future

2006-04-18 Thread Dan Shafer
Desktop Linux is becoming a viable alternative. I keep a fairly close eye on that world. But it's not quite there yet. Some software gaps and a few remaining instances of data interchange issues that rear their ugly head from time to time. I'm a Mac guy. Have been since the first Macs shipped.

Re: [OT] Cringely on BootCamp's future

2006-04-18 Thread Todd Higgins
While you would just use it to run Revolution, for people who buy it to do general purpose computing the software included is quite a deal. Not just the OS, but all of the creative apps, Front Row w/ the IR remote etc. http://www.apple.com/macmini/whatsinside.html On Apr 18, 2006, at

[OT] Cringely on BootCamp's future

2006-04-18 Thread Chipp Walters
Hi Todd, Todd Higgins wrote: While you would just use it to run Revolution, for people who buy it to do general purpose computing the software included is quite a deal. Not just the OS, but all of the creative apps, Front Row w/ the IR remote etc. The computer I would get from CompUSA for

Re: [OT] Cringely on BootCamp's future

2006-04-18 Thread Judy Perry
Chipp, Doesn't Adobe allow you to pay a small fee to 'cross-grade' from one platform to the other? Or was it Macromedia? I'm pretty certain that one of those two companies (now the same one, of course) didn't make it really financially painful to switch platforms... Judy On Wed, 19 Apr 2006,

Re: [OT] Cringely on BootCamp's future

2006-04-17 Thread Chipp Walters
Interesting, but you're right, Cringely often is not. Couple serious holes, among them the fact I just bought a Sony Core Duo laptop including 1Gb RAM, DVD read/write, integrated camera, PCMCIA slot and slots for all other 'card media', Fire-wire, and ULTRA-BRITE display for only $1300. You