Re: New Guide to the IDE in Process

2005-06-07 Thread Dan Shafer
Now that 2.6 is released, I think it may be time for such a guide as I expect the GUI to be stable for long enough to merit it. Keep an ear to the ground. Dan On May 29, 2005, at 5:19 PM, Kenneth Conrad D' Souza wrote: Dear Dan, I would be among the many who would be interested in your pro

RE: New Guide to the IDE in Process

2005-06-07 Thread MisterX
ay, June 07, 2005 15:26 > To: How to use Revolution > Subject: Re: New Guide to the IDE in Process > > Kenneth Conrad D' Souza wrote: > > I was quite surprized that for a such an elegant > programming language > > the company does not provide printed manuals with

Re: New Guide to the IDE in Process

2005-06-07 Thread Richard Gaskin
Kenneth Conrad D' Souza wrote: I was quite surprized that for a such an elegant programming language the company does not provide printed manuals with purchase (have to purchase it separately!). The online documentation is excellent Just be glad you're not a ToolBook customer: founded b

New Guide to the IDE in Process

2005-06-07 Thread Kenneth Conrad D' Souza
Dear Dan, I would be among the many who would be interested in your proposed Revolution User Guide! I was quite surprized that for a such an elegant programming language the company does not provide printed manuals with purchase (have to purchase it separately!). The online documentation is

Re: New Guide to the IDE in Process

2005-04-13 Thread Jan Schenkel
Thanks for spreading the word, Dan : Quartam Reports is not dead at all -- it is moving forward, but at a slower pace than I had hoped. It is becoming increasingly difficult to juggle time between a demanding full-time job, evening classes, my own projects and a relationship. Quartam Reports is a p

Re: New Guide to the IDE in Process

2005-04-13 Thread Dan Shafer
I didn't know the RunRev Marketing guy's name was Prosser. :-D ~~ Dan Shafer, Co-Chair RevConWest '05 June 17-18, 2005, Monterey, California http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit/RevConWest On Apr 13, 2005, at 8:04 AM, Geoff Canyon wrote: On Apr 12, 2005, at 1:15

Re: New Guide to the IDE in Process

2005-04-13 Thread Geoff Canyon
On Apr 12, 2005, at 1:15 PM, Dan Shafer wrote: Sigh. On Apr 12, 2005, at 12:41 PM, Bill wrote: This is the link to the last page of the runrev store: http://secure.runrev.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc? Where your ebooks are (fairly well hidden). PROSSER But Mr. Dent, the plans have been available in

Re: New Guide to the IDE in Process

2005-04-12 Thread Dan Shafer
I talked tonight with Jan Schenkel, the developer of Quartam Reports. He tells me development is definitely proceeding apace. Look for him to have something to say on this subject in the next couple of days. On Apr 12, 2005, at 11:02 AM, Bill wrote: Quartam reports may never be released

Re: New Guide to the IDE in Process

2005-04-12 Thread Dan Shafer
Sigh. On Apr 12, 2005, at 12:41 PM, Bill wrote: This is the link to the last page of the runrev store: http://secure.runrev.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc? Where your ebooks are (fairly well hidden). ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev

Re: New Guide to the IDE in Process

2005-04-12 Thread Bill
This is the link to the last page of the runrev store: http://secure.runrev.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc? Where your ebooks are (fairly well hidden). On 4/12/05 2:43 PM, "Dan Shafer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The two eBook versions of the chapters on CGI and Properties that I did > earlier a

Re: New Guide to the IDE in Process

2005-04-12 Thread Dan Shafer
The two eBook versions of the chapters on CGI and Properties that I did earlier are also available in the online RunRev store. The printing eBook is the one I'm just finishing now. I expect to release it to final editing this week. When it is ready, it, too, will be available through the RunRev

Re: New Guide to the IDE in Process

2005-04-12 Thread Bill
That link is only to buy your book, not any of your ebooks. I already bought your book. I am especially interested in your ebook on printing as the Quartam reports may never be released http://users.telenet.be/quartam//reports/tour/tour_2_1.htm On 4/12/05 11:45 AM, "Dan Shafer" <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: New Guide to the IDE in Process

2005-04-12 Thread Richard Gaskin
J. Landman Gay wrote: On 4/12/05 2:26 AM, Chipp Walters wrote: You won't even throw in a plug for altPlugins? I mean, how many times has altArchive saved your skin;-) Sorry, I have to agree with Dan on this one. Regardless of how useful a plugin is, including recommendations for it in a Rev guide

Re: New Guide to the IDE in Process

2005-04-12 Thread Judy Perry
Amen. On Mon, 11 Apr 2005, Dan Shafer wrote: > The "in principle" argument is simple. The unadorned, unenhanced IDE is > the common denominator that needs documenting. Third-party tools should > be documented by their developers, not in a general-usage IDE document. > There are several completely

Re: New Guide to the IDE in Process

2005-04-12 Thread Judy Perry
I'd agree with Dan's decision NOT to cover third party products especially in a guide to the IDE; it should strictly cover the IDE itself as the product is shipped/d/l'd. Especially for newbies/non-programmers, you don't want to be making references to anything that's not actually present with the

Re: New Guide to the IDE in Process

2005-04-12 Thread Dan Shafer
They're sold at the RunRev site itself. Go to the main page at http://www.runrev.com and scroll down. The link is on the left bottom. On Apr 12, 2005, at 6:53 AM, Bill wrote: What is the link to the web site where your runrev ebooks are sold... ___ use-

Re: New Guide to the IDE in Process

2005-04-12 Thread Dan Shafer
I might include such a list, perhaps annotated, as an appendix, but without covering usage. On Apr 12, 2005, at 12:36 AM, Eric Chatonet wrote: a third party products list would be useful but it's another job... off the topic. ~~ Dan Shafer, Co-Chair RevCo

Re: New Guide to the IDE in Process

2005-04-12 Thread Dan Shafer
More than I care to count. And no. :-D On Apr 12, 2005, at 12:26 AM, Chipp Walters wrote: You won't even throw in a plug for altPlugins? I mean, how many times has altArchive saved your skin;-) ~~ Dan Shafer, Co-Chair RevConWest '05 June 17-18, 2005, Monter

Re: New Guide to the IDE in Process

2005-04-12 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 4/12/05 2:26 AM, Chipp Walters wrote: You won't even throw in a plug for altPlugins? I mean, how many times has altArchive saved your skin;-) Sorry, I have to agree with Dan on this one. Regardless of how useful a plugin is, including recommendations for it in a Rev guide is off topic. And it

Re: New Guide to the IDE in Process

2005-04-12 Thread Bill
What is the link to the web site where your runrev ebooks are sold... On 4/11/05 9:36 PM, "Dan Shafer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The "in principle" argument is simple. The unadorned, unenhanced IDE is > the common denominator that needs documenting. Third-party tools should > be documented by

Re: New Guide to the IDE in Process

2005-04-12 Thread Eric Chatonet
Hi Dan and Jerry, I do agree Dan's position :-) You can't know all third party products and if they will stay available and reliable in the future. As for Message Box Picker, bilingual (English/French) documentation is included :-) The unenhanced IDE is already a deep enough forest... Neverthele

Re: New Guide to the IDE in Process

2005-04-12 Thread Chipp Walters
You won't even throw in a plug for altPlugins? I mean, how many times has altArchive saved your skin;-) cw Dan Shafer wrote: The "in principle" argument is simple. The unadorned, unenhanced IDE is the common denominator that needs documenting. Third-party tools should be documented by their dev

Re: New Guide to the IDE in Process

2005-04-11 Thread Dan Shafer
The "in principle" argument is simple. The unadorned, unenhanced IDE is the common denominator that needs documenting. Third-party tools should be documented by their developers, not in a general-usage IDE document. There are several completely alternate IDEs running around out there. I think t

Re: New Guide to the IDE in Process

2005-04-11 Thread Jerry Balzano
On Apr 11, 2005, at 5:08 PM, Dan Shafer wrote: The Message Box will be included. No third party products will. H ... not even freeware third party products? Not even ones you yourself use frequently? I don't currently produce any, so I can speak relatively disinterestedly here, but for me p

Re: New Guide to the IDE in Process

2005-04-11 Thread Dan Shafer
On Apr 11, 2005, at 4:07 PM, Jerry Balzano wrote: Count me in as an interested party as well, although I have to say that $15 seems a little steep. The various "Take Control" books for various facets of Mac OS X, many of which are over 100 pages in length, are all $10 or less, and several are o

Re: New Guide to the IDE in Process

2005-04-11 Thread Jerry Balzano
Count me in as an interested party as well, although I have to say that $15 seems a little steep. The various "Take Control" books for various facets of Mac OS X, many of which are over 100 pages in length, are all $10 or less, and several are only $5. Do add the message box (perhaps including

Re: New Guide to the IDE in Process

2005-04-11 Thread arie van der ent
Me too Arie van der Ent Op 11-apr-05 om 14:21 heeft Kurt Kaufman het volgende geschreven: Please chalk one up for me. Kurt On Apr 10, 2005, at 9:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, step one. Please let me know either off-list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) or here if you'd be interested in purchasing such

New Guide to the IDE in Process

2005-04-11 Thread Kurt Kaufman
Please chalk one up for me. Kurt On Apr 10, 2005, at 9:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, step one. Please let me know either off-list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) or here if you'd be interested in purchasing such an eBook if it were available for immediate download at a price of, say, $15. If it seems t

Re: New Guide to the IDE in Process

2005-04-10 Thread Dan Shafer
Bill... Thanks. I will. I'm tinkering with format ideas anyway at the moment. Dan On Apr 10, 2005, at 6:00 PM, Bill wrote: Dan: Look at the format and design of the maranGraphics books www.idgbooks.com that are called Visual "Read Less, Learn More". They are also a collection of screen shots with

Re: New Guide to the IDE in Process

2005-04-10 Thread Bill
Dan: Look at the format and design of the maranGraphics books www.idgbooks.com that are called Visual "Read Less, Learn More". They are also a collection of screen shots with very clear graphics and formatting. Bill On 4/10/05 3:22 PM, "Dan Shafer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As I have been p

New Guide to the IDE in Process

2005-04-10 Thread Dan Shafer
As I have been participating in this list the past couple of weeks, I have (like everyone else) noticed another significant round of concern about the paucity of documentation on the Rev IDE. As I am now within a day or two of finishing my next promised eBooklet on printing in Rev, I've decided