RE: [OT] Open Source, EULA - the Big Bad Bogeyman

2009-03-24 Thread Randall Reetz
-pattern, by markup, by addressed chunking, by packets? -Original Message- From: "Randall Reetz" To: "How to use Revolution" Sent: 3/24/2009 11:07 AM Subject: RE: [OT] Open Source, EULA - the Big Bad Bogeyman What does the open source community say about revenue? What if

RE: [OT] Open Source, EULA - the Big Bad Bogeyman

2009-03-24 Thread Randall Reetz
o: "How to use Revolution" Sent: 3/23/2009 11:15 PM Subject: Re: [OT] Open Source, EULA - the Big Bad Bogeyman On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Judy Perry wrote: > > It's funny you bring this up, ... > > I especially like how the iTunes EULA states that it may not be used

Re: [OT] Open Source, EULA - the Big Bad Bogeyman

2009-03-24 Thread Kay C Lan
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 6:38 PM, Luis wrote: > Well, start with the ZX81, running a Nuclear Power plant, and go up from > there (with a 16k RAM pack +wobble). > > Unfortunately I believe the 250 baud cassette interface was only usable for data storage, not music playback ;-) _

Re: [OT] Open Source, EULA - the Big Bad Bogeyman

2009-03-24 Thread Luis
Well, start with the ZX81, running a Nuclear Power plant, and go up from there (with a 16k RAM pack +wobble). Cheers, Luis. On 24 Mar 2009, at 06:15, Kay C Lan wrote: On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Judy Perry wrote: It's funny you bring this up, ... I especially like how the iTunes

RE: [OT] Open Source, EULA - the Big Bad Bogeyman

2009-03-24 Thread Randall Reetz
C Lan" To: "How to use Revolution" Sent: 3/23/2009 11:15 PM Subject: Re: [OT] Open Source, EULA - the Big Bad Bogeyman On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Judy Perry wrote: > > It's funny you bring this up, ... > > I especially like how the iTunes EULA states that i

Re: [OT] Open Source, EULA - the Big Bad Bogeyman

2009-03-23 Thread Kay C Lan
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Judy Perry wrote: > > It's funny you bring this up, ... > > I especially like how the iTunes EULA states that it may not be used to > plan, build or operate a nuclear power facility. The last time I d/l an > update of iTunes I made certain to read that part ;-) >

Re: [OT] Open Source, EULA - the Big Bad Bogeyman

2009-03-23 Thread Judy Perry
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 12:05 PM, viktoras d. wrote: > > The ground becomes so slippery when money talks... Or as Dylan said, money doesn't talk, it swears... Judy http://revined.blogspot.com > > ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.

Re: [OT] Open Source, EULA - the Big Bad Bogeyman

2009-03-23 Thread Judy Perry
Kay, It's funny you bring this up, as this was one of the things we just covered last week in my class. If anyone has too much time on their hands and not enough reading material, here are some links I dug up for my class on especially egregious EULAs: http://www.benedelman.org/news/112904-1.html

Re: [OT] Open Source, EULA - the Big Bad Bogeyman

2009-03-23 Thread Kay C Lan
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 3:05 AM, viktoras d. wrote: > one more "laud" case, not software, but still related: > http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2009/02/is_the_obama_po.html > > The ground becomes so slippery when money talks... > > Although your link was not software, that link had a fu

Re: [OT] Open Source, EULA - the Big Bad Bogeyman

2009-03-23 Thread viktoras d.
one more "laud" case, not software, but still related: http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2009/02/is_the_obama_po.html The ground becomes so slippery when money talks... Viktoras Kay C Lan wrote: Listers, Unfortunately I missed the recent frenzy regarding "Illegal Creativity". I do n

Re: [OT] Open Source, EULA - the Big Bad Bogeyman

2009-03-23 Thread Richard Gaskin
Lynn Fredricks wrote: There have been many times Ive been asked about new products during the dot com (and even now moreso in Web 2.5) eras wherein the developers are happy to knowingly file even when its clear they were too late or aware of significant prior art that would invalidate it if only

RE: [OT] Open Source, EULA - the Big Bad Bogeyman

2009-03-23 Thread Lynn Fredricks
> Reminds me of the Compton Multimedia Patent case, in which > they claimed ownership rights to the ability of any CD-ROM to > contain more than one type of media (text, audio, video, > raster graphics, vector graphics, etc.). > > The USPTO rubber-stamped that one and it took a bit of a > batt

Re: [OT] Open Source, EULA - the Big Bad Bogeyman

2009-03-23 Thread Richard Gaskin
Lynn Fredricks wrote: It also sadly supports what I see as a policy of the USPO to just rubber-stamp anything that comes in and let the courts (with plantiffs and defendants) sort out and pay for their bad judgement. Of course, maybe someone some time ago came up with a great and truly efficient

Re: [OT] Open Source, EULA - the Big Bad Bogeyman

2009-03-23 Thread Marian Petrides, MD
Ummm isn't that an oxymoron. Government patent office, efficient patent reviews? On Mar 23, 2009, at 12:06 PM, Lynn Fredricks wrote: maybe someone some time ago came up with a great and truly efficient method of managing patent reviews - and patented it ;-) _

RE: [OT] Open Source, EULA - the Big Bad Bogeyman

2009-03-23 Thread Lynn Fredricks
> The result of the Appeal was only last Aug 13th 2008 and > reversed the decision of the lower court. But this is not the > end, as of 11 Feb 09 KAM Industries is seeking damages of U$6,000,000+ A facinating read :-) The most interesting fruit from this is the seeming recognition of rights of