Re: ARE YOU SERIOUS REV TEAM? MAJOR SCRIPT EDITOR ISSUES

2005-04-11 Thread Mikey
You either: 1) Let me know that you want to join the blog (i.e. be a semi-regular contributor), and I add you or 2) You send your single entry to me and I'll add it. The point here was to exercise control over the content and presentation so that it's usable. If you choose to join you can post

Re: ARE YOU SERIOUS REV TEAM? MAJOR SCRIPT EDITOR ISSUES

2005-04-11 Thread Heather Nagey
Just out of interest: does the Rev team contribute to the list? Just wondering. Also I didn't want to contact them yet as we are still evaluating the software and I'm sure they are deep in code land... fixing? Welcome to the Revolution, Peter. Yes, the team does occasionally contribute to

Re: ARE YOU SERIOUS REV TEAM? MAJOR SCRIPT EDITOR ISSUES

2005-04-10 Thread Mikey
IT'S THE TAO! Anyway, if I could get some of you to submit some of the well-known (but not-so-well-documented) issues for the Tao Blog it would be nice. You can view the Tao of Runtime Revolution at taoofrunrev.blogspot.com You can email me here, or if you think you might be a more frequent

Re: ARE YOU SERIOUS REV TEAM? MAJOR SCRIPT EDITOR ISSUES

2005-04-10 Thread Ken Ray
On 4/10/05 8:48 AM, Mikey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IT'S THE TAO! Anyway, if I could get some of you to submit some of the well-known (but not-so-well-documented) issues for the Tao Blog it would be nice. How do you submit an issue? I went to taoofrunrev.blogspot.com and don't see a way to

Re: ARE YOU SERIOUS REV TEAM? MAJOR SCRIPT EDITOR ISSUES

2005-04-09 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Apr 8, 2005, at 9:19 PM, Peter Armstrong wrote: Good luck, I’ll keep looking out for script editor fixes and improvements. In the meantime, if any serious programmers can tell me how to use BBedit with Rev then I’d much appreciate it. Seems the IDE is a very leaky tank but the engine is

Re: ARE YOU SERIOUS REV TEAM? MAJOR SCRIPT EDITOR ISSUES

2005-04-09 Thread Chipp Walters
Hi Peter, Welcome to Revolution. Sorry you're having so many problems. Reminds me when I first starting trying to integreate VB scripts with the Visual InterDev and not knowing what I was doing, got very upset... Of the many issues you complain about, some are part of learning how to use Rev.

RE: ARE YOU SERIOUS REV TEAM? MAJOR SCRIPT EDITOR ISSUES

2005-04-09 Thread MisterX
Peter, I've mentioned a million times and as usual future complains dont seem to be an issue ;) The script editor, although rather simple, is not so bad once you get used to avoiding its traps. But it's much better than it previously was... I made a much superior editor to the old MetaCard

Re: ARE YOU SERIOUS REV TEAM? MAJOR SCRIPT EDITOR ISSUES

2005-04-09 Thread Peter Armstrong
Dear fellow Revolution Programmers. Thank you so much for your kind help! I must thank you all for your positive input. Your understanding has helped my early frustration with this software. I guess the main point of reference is other script editing environments (both scripted and compiled)

Re: ARE YOU SERIOUS REV TEAM? MAJOR SCRIPT EDITOR ISSUES

2005-04-09 Thread David Burgun
Hi, I've been using RunRev on and off for about a year now. I must say this I kind of agree with you about the Script Editor. However I really don't see it as that big an issue if you just follow the following rules: 1. Don't use the Single Handler Mode. It's annoying because I like the locals,

Re: ARE YOU SERIOUS REV TEAM? MAJOR SCRIPT EDITOR ISSUES

2005-04-09 Thread Hannu Kokko
On 9.4.2005 10:11, Chipp Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep, that's a problem, you can't edit a script during execution. You need to control-period and terminate the current script which is running, then edit and save your script. Of course, I'm not aware of any other language which

Re: ARE YOU SERIOUS REV TEAM? MAJOR SCRIPT EDITOR ISSUES

2005-04-09 Thread Chipp Walters
Peter, As Richard suggested, you should contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] and see if they can help you with any of these issues. There's also a Bugzilla database you can peruse and add to as well. Another serious bug to look out for is the 'breakpoints' bug. If you have set breakpoints ('red dot') in

Re: ARE YOU SERIOUS REV TEAM? MAJOR SCRIPT EDITOR ISSUES

2005-04-09 Thread Gordon Webster
Dear Peter See what a great group of friendly and helpful people there are using Rev! I would wager that on a lot of lists, your posting would have raised hackles and prompted a lot of less than helpful responses. This list is really one of the strengths of using Rev and if you have any

Re: ARE YOU SERIOUS REV TEAM? MAJOR SCRIPT EDITOR ISSUES

2005-04-09 Thread John Dixon
On 9/4/05 5:55 am, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But for a lot of us the engine has delivered an unmatched ROI that more than makes up for any deficiencies in the IDEs available for it. For myself and my clients, the engine is the only thing that matters. We tend to make a lot

Re: ARE YOU SERIOUS REV TEAM? MAJOR SCRIPT EDITOR ISSUES

2005-04-09 Thread Bill Vlahos
Just to let you know that I've been developing in the IDE for years and have never lost code or had most of the problems you described. Bill Vlahos On Apr 9, 2005, at 4:34 AM, Peter Armstrong wrote: Yes I can see that Rev could be the tool of preference for my team, however I can not see them

Re: ARE YOU SERIOUS REV TEAM? MAJOR SCRIPT EDITOR ISSUES

2005-04-09 Thread Paul Salyers
At 10:44 AM 4/9/2005, you wrote: Just to let you know that I've been developing in the IDE for years and have never lost code or had most of the problems you described. Bill Vlahos On Apr 9, 2005, at 4:34 AM, Peter Armstrong wrote: Yes I can see that Rev could be the tool of preference for my

Re: ARE YOU SERIOUS REV TEAM? MAJOR SCRIPT EDITOR ISSUES

2005-04-09 Thread Bob Warren
Since Microsoft decided to assassinate VB6 about 2 years ago, I have been looking for some kind of satisfactory alternative. I quite soon encountered Transcript, which is even more friendly and user-oriented than Basic. I was overjoyed. But since then I have been bugged (if you will excuse the

Re: ARE YOU SERIOUS REV TEAM? MAJOR SCRIPT EDITOR ISSUES

2005-04-09 Thread Peter Armstrong
Dear Revolution Community. Thanks so much again for your comments, it is a truly amazing community! One day I hope to contribute back in. My rather heated comments on the buggy IDE are somewhat appeased by a more than helpful community so very generous with their answers and thoughtful

Re: ARE YOU SERIOUS REV TEAM? MAJOR SCRIPT EDITOR ISSUES

2005-04-09 Thread Richard Gaskin
Peter Armstrong wrote: In the end I need to make a simple and quite serious decision: should we spend time and try and develop a project in Rev? And into the future: should we switch our whole team over to Rev? Do the one project first, then you can decide from an informed place about the

Re: ARE YOU SERIOUS REV TEAM? MAJOR SCRIPT EDITOR ISSUES

2005-04-09 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Apr 9, 2005, at 4:12 PM, Peter Armstrong wrote: Thanks Trevor, the external edit in BBEdit seems to work nicely! At last I can relax and get down to understanding Rev and not worry about my code. An excellent addition (Transcript terms) to BBEdit. You might want to look at using BBEdit

RE: ARE YOU SERIOUS REV TEAM? MAJOR SCRIPT EDITOR ISSUES

2005-04-09 Thread MisterX
Peter, I guess the main point of reference is other script editing environments (both scripted and compiled) that I've had to deal with over the past 16 years. Rev has really made me worry about the SAFETY of my code. I'm sitting here testing, learning, then BOOM! Gone. This is

RE: ARE YOU SERIOUS REV TEAM? MAJOR SCRIPT EDITOR ISSUES

2005-04-09 Thread MisterX
I feel pretty strongly about the engine myself. Woah! I like that kind of feeling! Like using a Mac, a Z3 Coupe or RunRev right? :) FWIW, the engine is about 14 years old, and the RunRev IDE much more recent. The engine used to be owned by MetaCard Corp., and after the acquisition of

Re: ARE YOU SERIOUS REV TEAM? MAJOR SCRIPT EDITOR ISSUES

2005-04-08 Thread Richard Gaskin
Peter Armstrong wrote: After enjoying your software my confidence rating dropped to ZERO. Did you mean to send that to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The users in this discussion forum don't make the script editor. At least not Rev's. Seems the IDE is a very leaky tank but the engine is pretty stable. I