Re: Rev 4 Preview Webinar - Video Link

2009-06-26 Thread Michael
Bill: Be my guest. We've already spent dozens of hours trying to work around this. Wow. This took several minutes: http://imp.on-rev.com/webinars/index.html Plays on iPods too. (And Zunes. And anything else that plays H.264.) The GoToWebinar software we use for our webinars records

Re: Rev 4 Preview Webinar - Video Link

2009-06-26 Thread Colin Holgate
On Jun 26, 2009, at 4:04 PM, Michael wrote: Wow. This took several minutes: http://imp.on-rev.com/webinars/index.html Unfortunately, although you're right in all of your arguments, your example file makes some of Bill's points for him. The linked file has to be fully downloaded

Re: Rev 4 Preview Webinar - Video Link

2009-06-26 Thread Andre Garzia
Bill, I am sure you guys probably thought about this before. You can use external monitor adapters on both computers hooked to dv cameras to record both screens at the same time. Then you can pick these high quality sources and edit to recreate the cuts you made live. it's a ton of work and needs

Re: Rev 4 Preview Webinar - Video Link

2009-06-26 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Jun 26, 2009, at 4:28 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: I too did a test, at full size, and mine was about as good as the WMV, and less than half the file size (it was about 2/3rd the size of your small dimensions file too). So it is possible to give a good example MP4 file. Ideally it would be

Re: Rev 4 Preview Webinar - Video Link

2009-06-26 Thread Colin Holgate
On Jun 26, 2009, at 4:37 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: Then you can pick these high quality sources and edit to recreate the cuts you made live. it's a ton of work and needs two cameras but it has no quality downside. There are problems with your suggestion. It might be slightly harder to

Re: Rev 4 Preview Webinar - Video Link

2009-06-26 Thread Colin Holgate
On Jun 26, 2009, at 4:28 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: I may post my MP4 recompressed example, just for interest. I don't have the right license to export WMV from QuickTime Player, so this has a watermark in it, but you get the idea. The link is a MOV reference movie, which helps solve the

Re: Rev 4 Preview Webinar - Video Link

2009-06-26 Thread Richmond Mathewson
I think one can get a bit too hoity-toity about commercial software; and I am not fan number 1 of Microsoft either; BUT, as VLC (which is Open Source, Hurrah, Hurrah, Hurrah) plays WMV files just like that we should not complain. I know, Andre, that if somebody suggested I ran out and bought 2

Re: Rev 4 Preview Webinar - Video Link

2009-06-26 Thread Colin Holgate
On Jun 26, 2009, at 4:46 PM, Trevor DeVore wrote: We set up Screenflow on a laptop and record the webinar. The audio/ video quality is MUCH better than the WMV and you have more options for output. Now you mention it, any of us could volunteer to record the webinar, with whatever

Re: Rev 4 Preview Webinar - Video Link

2009-06-26 Thread Bill Marriott
Michael, Wow. This took several minutes: http://imp.on-rev.com/webinars/index.html Yes, we know how to convert to mp4, that isn't the problem. Your version of the video is not acceptable: - It's more than 3x the file size: 151 Mb; the original WMV is 46 Mb - It's half the dimensions of

Re: Rev 4 Preview Webinar - Video Link

2009-06-25 Thread Colin Holgate
Bill said: But most Windows users cannot view that format, without having QuickTime or other additional software installed, and we wouldn't want to foist anything on them. Plus WMV is a progressive download that starts to play fairly quickly, as opposed to requiring the whole file to be

Re: Rev 4 Preview Webinar - Video Link

2009-06-25 Thread Peter Alcibiades
that with 4.0 printing and virtual desktops work properly. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Rev-4-Preview-Webinar---Video-Link-tp24179370p24198629.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use

Re: Rev 4 Preview Webinar - Video Link

2009-06-25 Thread Luis
On 25 Jun 2009, at 03:25, Bill Marriott wrote: snip So, if you've got an idea that doesn't have these downsides, let me know. - Bill Something written in runRev perhaps? Cheers, Luis. ___ use-revolution mailing list

Re: Rev 4 Preview Webinar - Video Link

2009-06-25 Thread Bill Marriott
While we have used Flash for things like the on-Rev videos, I'd find it a bit weird to use Flash to host a preview of our new plugin tech. (Which obviously we can't use for the videos since it's not released yet.) Flash can play mp4 video, cross platform, progressive download, and nearly

Re: Rev 4 Preview Webinar - Video Link

2009-06-25 Thread Alex Shaw
Hi Bill The one question I asked during the webinar.. Since rev is currently heavily dependant on quicktime for video and audio capture.. I assume it will still be a requirement for video playback and audio capture via the web plugin? regards alex Bill Marriott wrote: While we have used

Re: Rev 4 Preview Webinar - Video Link

2009-06-25 Thread Bill Marriott
In the initial version 4.0 you can expect very little change from the version 3.5 video management capabilities. Alex Shaw a...@harryscollar.com wrote in message news:4a434746.5060...@harryscollar.com... Hi Bill The one question I asked during the webinar.. Since rev is currently heavily

Re: Rev 4 Preview Webinar - Video Link

2009-06-25 Thread Alex Shaw
Hi Bill I was more interested in the playback and recording of audio. Lets say I have a small rev stack that does the above. Given the right runrev plugin security permissions and the presence of quicktime would this be deliverable online without resorting to using a intermediary media

Rev 4 Preview Webinar - Video Link

2009-06-24 Thread Bill Marriott
Hi folks, There will be a more official mail going out on this direct to your inbox shortly, but I wanted to give you the link to the video from today's Webinar conference: http://www.runrev.com/offers/webinar-2009-06-23/Rev4-Preview-Webinar.wmv We don't have a lot of choices when it comes

Re: Rev 4 Preview Webinar - Video Link

2009-06-24 Thread Mark Schonewille
Bill, Thanks for posting this so quickly. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com Snapper Screen Recorder 2.1 http://snapper.economy-x-talk.com If you sent me an e-mail before 25 May and haven't got a reply yet, please

Re: Rev 4 Preview Webinar - Video Link

2009-06-24 Thread Richmond Mathewson
Yes, Thanks a lot, Bill; now able to catch up on the part of the Webinar I missed; and run it through several times so I can extract the juice from it - and there is a lot of juice there. I was also happy to have my vocabulary enlarged, learning the word 'Olve' (as in 'revOlve'); although, for

Re: Rev 4 Preview Webinar - Video Link

2009-06-24 Thread Jan Schenkel
both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) --- On Tue, 6/23/09, Bill Marriott w...@wjm.org wrote: From: Bill Marriott w...@wjm.org Subject: Rev 4 Preview Webinar - Video Link To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Date: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 11:26 PM Hi folks

Re: Rev 4 Preview Webinar - Video Link

2009-06-24 Thread Michael
Hi: We don't have a lot of choices when it comes to video format Really? I think you should forego foisting MS POS formats on everyone and use mp4 for distribution instead. I can explain how if necessary. m ___ use-revolution mailing list

Re: Rev 4 Preview Webinar - Video Link

2009-06-24 Thread Colin Holgate
On Jun 24, 2009, at 3:21 PM, Michael wrote: Really? I think you should forego foisting MS POS formats on everyone and use mp4 for distribution instead. I can explain how if necessary. You'll have noticed that Bill uses a PC and Kevin uses a Mac. I'm not sure there are as many built in

Re: Rev 4 Preview Webinar - Video Link

2009-06-24 Thread Richmond Mathewson
One could, of course, go for something Open Source which everybody could watch, trouble-free (and 'tooth-sucking-free' whether about Microsoft or Apple) with VLC: http://www.videolan.org/ Colin Holgate wrote: On Jun 24, 2009, at 3:21 PM, Michael wrote: Really? I think you should forego

Re: Rev 4 Preview Webinar - Video Link

2009-06-24 Thread Bill Marriott
Michael, Really? Really. I think you should forego foisting MS POS formats on everyone and use mp4 for distribution instead. I can explain how if necessary. Be my guest. We've already spent dozens of hours trying to work around this. The GoToWebinar software we use for our webinars records

Re: Rev 4 Preview Webinar - Video Link

2009-06-24 Thread Alex Shaw
Hi I agree, but a good way around this is to use something like VLC (www.videolan.org) to view videos on both mac pc. ps. although it was freezing cold and 3:30am here in Alice Springs(Australia) it was good to experience my first rev webinar! regards alex Bill Marriott wrote: Michael,