Re: RunRev Pricing

2004-02-25 Thread Robert Brenstein
But as for getting going with Mac, I believe all Mac versions are included in the Mac license, which would mean both OS X and the older Classic. I can't imagine RunRev would charge separately for the defunct OS 9. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation I was going to let this

Re: RunRev Pricing

2004-02-25 Thread Richard Gaskin
Robert Brenstein wrote: But as for getting going with Mac, I believe all Mac versions are included in the Mac license, which would mean both OS X and the older Classic. I can't imagine RunRev would charge separately for the defunct OS 9. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation I

Re: RunRev Pricing

2004-02-25 Thread Dar Scott
On Wednesday, February 25, 2004, at 01:41 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: A majority of Mac sales across all products I manage are still for Classic. This is important for me to know. That some percentage are OS X and some greater percentage are pre OS X means little of those of the older OS are

Re: RunRev Pricing

2004-02-25 Thread A.C.T.
Hi, Dar, This is important for me to know. That some percentage are OS X and some greater percentage are pre OS X means little of those of the older OS are not spending money. Speaking from experiences with my customers (publishers, marketing agencies) I can say: Many MAC users still refuse

Re: RunRev Pricing

2004-02-25 Thread Thomas McGrath III
FWIW, This has not been my experience for almost two years now. Almost all OS9 users that have actually seen OSX in action(usually from my machine) have switched. Photoshop is sound and Quark is coming along. Office is Ok but anyone who uses OSX even for a few months 'admits' how much more

Re: RunRev Pricing

2004-02-25 Thread David Burgun
At 3:32 PM +0100 25/2/04, A.C.T. wrote: Hi, Dar, This is important for me to know. That some percentage are OS X and some greater percentage are pre OS X means little of those of the older OS are not spending money. Speaking from experiences with my customers (publishers, marketing agencies)

Re: RunRev Pricing

2004-02-25 Thread A.C.T.
Hi, Thomas, I think the word was slow at first but now has picked up speed and the switch is happening very fast now. that's why I wrote: It is hard to predict. Maybe it is different on your side of the Atlantic ;-) The publishers I work with are generally old fashioned, some of them love

Re: RunRev Pricing

2004-02-25 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Marc, Yeah, I can't speak for across the ocean but only here on the east coast of the US. If I read your and others responses correctly then I would assume that for at least 18 months OS9 will be the dominant OS where you are. Most things I have seen are either 18 months behind or ahead, like

Proportions of OS pre-X OS X users (was: RunRev Pricing)

2004-02-25 Thread Ian Wood
My experience in the UK is that the print industry is the most resistant, mainly because they often have complex workflows and it would take time to reproduce those workflows on OS X. In addition, the print industry is so hard-pressed that they often run very old equipment, my local (tiny)

Re: RunRev Pricing

2004-02-25 Thread John Tenny
I'm a Technology Integration Mentor for 6 universities (Education Departments) on the US West coast, and all have switched to OS X (one even moving from Windows to Mac). All have increased wireless dramatically on their campuses, and all have portable classroom sets of laptops. In my small

Re: RunRev Pricing

2004-02-25 Thread Dom
Thomas McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But Mac users can be the most stubborn users in the world. Hmmm... they were told years ago something like rumors of demise of HyperCard is pure b***s*** Mac users may be as stubborn as a donkey, they have also the memory of this sympathetic animal

RunRev Pricing

2004-02-23 Thread David Burgun
Hi All, The pricing for RunRev seems odd to me, the prices currently on offer are as follows: Enterprise $999 Runs and Generates code for MacOS X, MacOS 9, Windows (many versions) and Linux. Studio $299 Runs on one OS Platform and Generates code for MacOS X, MacOS 9, Windows (many versions)

Re: RunRev Pricing

2004-02-23 Thread Richard Gaskin
My company just bought a Studio version of RunRev for MacOS X, which is fine for my work Mac. However at home I have an older Mac that doesn't support MacOS X and I would like to be able to run RunRev under MacOS 9.2.2 on that machine. However, it looks like the only way I can do this is to

Re: RunRev Pricing

2004-02-23 Thread Marian Petrides
Why? Win 95, 98, XP are all one license, right?So why would OS 9 and OS X be separate? I hate to get back into the pricing debate again, but once again the pricing model defies logic. Most frustrating. (And, no it's not relevant to me, I bought the whole magilla and glad I am thank

Re: RunRev Pricing

2004-02-23 Thread Alain Bois
I'm OK Alain Le 23 févr. 04, à 21:11, Marian Petrides a écrit : Why? Win 95, 98, XP are all one license, right?So why would OS 9 and OS X be separate? I hate to get back into the pricing debate again, but once again the pricing model defies logic. Most frustrating. (And, no it's not

Re: RunRev Pricing

2004-02-23 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 2/23/04 2:11 PM, Marian Petrides wrote: Why? Win 95, 98, XP are all one license, right?So why would OS 9 and OS X be separate? Probably because the Mac builds are two separate engines, which require different compiles and separate amounts of time and resources to put together. They

Re: RunRev Pricing

2004-02-23 Thread Marian Petrides
Otay. Makes sense. Thanks for clarifying. M On Feb 23, 2004, at 4:43 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 2/23/04 2:11 PM, Marian Petrides wrote: Why? Win 95, 98, XP are all one license, right?So why would OS 9 and OS X be separate? Probably because the Mac builds are two separate engines, which

Re: RunRev Pricing

2004-02-23 Thread Doug Lerner
Mac OS 9 and Mac OS X are completely different systems. OS X is Unix, in fact. doug On 2/24/04 5:11 AM, Marian Petrides [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why? Win 95, 98, XP are all one license, right?So why would OS 9 and OS X be separate? I hate to get back into the pricing debate again,