On Mar 17, 2009, at 10:59 AM, Klaus Major wrote:
This VERY old trick does not count as playing internal files in a
player object!
Sorry you're out :-D
I don't feel bad, having worked it all out for myself, without knowing
that it was an old trick! But what counts as an internal file? If
Hi Colin,
On Mar 17, 2009, at 10:59 AM, Klaus Major wrote:
This VERY old trick does not count as playing internal files in a
player object!
Sorry you're out :-D
I don't feel bad, having worked it all out for myself, without
knowing that it was an old trick!
Sorry, did not mean to
On Mar 17, 2009, at 11:16 AM, Klaus Major wrote:
If I can get those to play, would that count as a new trick?
YOU BET! :-D
The those I was referring to would have been external files that are
in the standalone bundle. I'm not sure how a file player can play
media if you're not allowed
Hi Colin,
On Mar 17, 2009, at 11:16 AM, Klaus Major wrote:
If I can get those to play, would that count as a new trick?
YOU BET! :-D
The those I was referring to would have been external files that
are in the standalone bundle.
I'm not sure how a file player can play media if you're not
Colin Holgate wroteL
The those I was referring to would have been external files that are
in the standalone bundle. I'm not sure how a file player can play
media if you're not allowed to make the media be a file as part of the
solution.
FWIW, I thought yours was a darn clever solution.
that sounds like the Hradetsky
organ in St. Salvator's chapel at St. Andrews
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/8421232
http://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~adweb/3sup_artmus.html
but, hey, I'm not an organ player of international repute; and,
I doubt very much that many Runtime Revolution programmers
On Mar 17, 2009, at 11:58 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
What's the downside of playing it as a file?
Latency.
The MIDI file is already playing before I notice that the file dialog
has gone away, so that's fairly fast. What kind of thing might you
want to do that would show latency?
Re: MIDI as external file...
Just thinking...
How about storing MIDI data as a custom property in a substack?
Kurt
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Hello,
From my previous message (03/13/2009)
Pmd and MIDI Builder have a common disadvantage : we cannot Play
live because of principle : create a MIDI file witch is play by QT
player, resulting in a latency of at least 1/5 seconds at the start
of the file...
René from Paris
Le 17 mars
On Mar 17, 2009, at 1:13 PM, Kurt Kaufman wrote:
Just thinking...
How about storing MIDI data as a custom property in a substack?
I don't know about storing custom properties, but whatever that is,
would it have any advantage over storing the data in a field?
How about storing MIDI data as a custom property in a substack?
I don't know about storing custom properties, but whatever that is,
would it have any advantage over storing the data in a field?
From the Rev User Guide:
A custom property is a property that you define. You can create as
On Mar 17, 2009, at 4:05 PM, Kurt Kaufman wrote:
I do believe that since MIDI files contain binary data, the Rev
field object is not the proper type of container.
MIDI can contain any binary value, but the technique does work, the
saved out MIDI file plays fine. So presumably fields cope
How about storing MIDI data as a custom property in a substack?
Even if this is done, you still need to copy the binary data contained
in the custom property to a temporary MIDI file (invisible if
desired), to which the the player's filename is assigned. According
to the 3.0 User Guide,
MIDI can contain any binary value, but the technique does work, the
saved out MIDI file plays fine. So presumably fields cope with null
values just like variables do.
Is there a chance that the field-stored data might run into trouble if
you, say, saved the data on a Mac and reopened it on a
According
to the 3.0 User Guide, audio/video QT players must always reference a
discreet file.
Actually, even if it's not so discreet, it still has to be discrete!
:-)
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Colin Holgate wrote:
I don't know about storing custom properties, but whatever that is,
would it have any advantage over storing the data in a field?
Yes, a lot of advantages. One is speed, another is the ability to store
any kind of data including binary. Once you start using custom
...Custom
properties can store whole files or applications, images, arrays,
SSL-encoded data, fonts, entire databases, almost anything you can
think of
But we still need to create an actual file to be referenced by the QT
player, right?
We cannot, for instance:
set the filename of
Colin Holgate wrote:
Is there a limit to how much data can be in a custom property? Using
afield worked fine for the 40kbyte .MID files I tried.
There is no limit on custom property storage size except the amount of
room you have on disk for the file increase. Fields have no practical
Kurt Kaufman wrote:
...Custom
properties can store whole files or applications, images, arrays,
SSL-encoded data, fonts, entire databases, almost anything you can
think of
But we still need to create an actual file to be referenced by the QT
player, right?
We cannot, for instance:
set
On Mar 17, 2009, at 5:26 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
Yes, a lot of advantages. One is speed, another is the ability to
store any kind of data including binary. Once you start using custom
properties you won't use fields any more for anything but visible
text. Accessing a custom property is
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 2:47 AM, Kay C Lan lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com wrote:
I'd hate to say it, but you're absolutely right.
I've been sitting back wondering why people want to play door bell jingles
on their computer ;-)
Well, I want to play door bell jingles because it would be useful in
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Richard Gaskin
ambassa...@fourthworld.comwrote:
So if not for music, then what is the anticipated usage for such an
external?
Game development?
And as for the tinniness (or whatever) quality of scripted music, (a) I
suspect children would not likely notice
Colin Holgate wrote:
On Mar 17, 2009, at 5:26 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
Yes, a lot of advantages. One is speed, another is the ability to
store any kind of data including binary. Once you start using custom
properties you won't use fields any more for anything but visible
text. Accessing a
On Mar 17, 2009, at 6:41 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
It isn't really. Fields are probably the most inefficient place to
store data that you need to access a lot.
For what I was trying, playing a whole tune, I would only need the
data once. Did you try my script? Does it not work fast
The issue I think was PUTTING something into a field, not GETTING the
contents of a field.
Bob Sneidar
IT Manager
Logos Management
Calvary Chapel CM
On Mar 17, 2009, at 4:42 PM, Colin Holgate wrote:
On Mar 17, 2009, at 6:41 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
It isn't really. Fields are probably
Also you are getting ALL the properties of an object, and not the
single property that one field of data would represent.
Bob Sneidar
IT Manager
Logos Management
Calvary Chapel CM
On Mar 17, 2009, at 4:42 PM, Colin Holgate wrote:
On Mar 17, 2009, at 6:41 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
It
On Mar 17, 2009, at 7:48 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:
The issue I think was PUTTING something into a field, not GETTING
the contents of a field.
Yes, setting customproperties is very fast, and putting text into a
field is a lot slower (about a 1000 times slower than getting the
text). For the
Colin Holgate wrote:
For what I was trying, playing a whole tune, I would only need the data
once. Did you try my script? Does it not work fast for you too?
Oh yes, for single-use access a field is plenty fast enough.
As for fields being slower than customproperties, it seems that may not
Hi Colin.
Your test is wrong on several levels. I ran this script:
ON mouseUp
put abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz1234567890 into theValue
put the ticks into StartFieldTime
REPEAT FOR 1
put theValue into field TestField
get field TestField
END repeat
put the
Whoops! Bad math. 175 times faster.
Bob Sneidar
IT Manager
Logos Management
Calvary Chapel CM
On Mar 17, 2009, at 5:05 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:
I got 350,2 as a result. That is, setting and getting a property is
exactly 125 times faster than putting and getting the samve value in a
field.
Colin Holgate wrote:
The figures I got were 198 and 325 ticks. If I was arguing that fields
was a bit faster, then 198 to 325 would prove that. But note that the
routine gets the text from the field a million times, and only gets the
customproperties 100,000 times. You can try the
On Mar 17, 2009, at 8:05 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:
3. Your first repeat loop was one million whereas the second repeat
loop was One Hundered Thousand. Not sure why the disparity there...
Because when I tried a million for the customproperties I thought I
was going to have to restart my
/3sup_artmus.html
but, hey, I'm not an organ player of international repute; and,
I doubt very much that many Runtime Revolution programmers are:
the hours of practise needed to get to that sort of standard must
be far more than those needed to become a fine RR programmer!
sincerely, Richmond Mathewson
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 11:58 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com
wrote:
While referring to HC's notation as door bell jingles may sound derisive,
these days when people are accustomed to richer sound design, it's not an
entirely unfair characterization to the modern ear.
Nice
http://joshburker.blogspot.com/2007/07/mac-68k-hypercard-music.html
Download the stacks;
Crack out the Mac that can cope with 'Classic'.
CRY!
If you can't manage that, at least go here:
http://homepage.mac.com/senorwences/mac68k/stacks.html
read the code in the third picture down, and ask
I did go to the second link. I did listen to the music clips. I did
indeed almost cry. ;-)
Bob Sneidar
IT Manager
Logos Management
Calvary Chapel CM
On Mar 12, 2009, at 11:03 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote:
http://joshburker.blogspot.com/2007/07/mac-68k-hypercard-music.html
Download the
Oh my.
I see what you mean ;-)
Still, give these people a full professional symphony orchestra, and I
suspect you'd still cry.
Judy
http://revined.blogspot.com
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote:
I did go to the second link. I did listen to the music clips. I did
Ummm, geee... thanks Richmond.
Now we're never going to get scripted music sound channels, and when
somebody asks why, these links will be reposted as state's, er, company's
evidence.
;-)
Judy
http://revined.blogspot.com
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Richmond Mathewson
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Hi,
Recently, i have been studying the didactic possibilities for young students
of creating works of interactive fiction with a custom made application
created with RunRev:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interactive_fiction
From my single point of view, creating in RunRev such kind of
Hiya,
Not in Rev, but you may get some pointers here: http://www.inform-
fiction.org/I7/Inform%207.html in the Features section.
Cheers,
Luis.
On 12 Nov 2008, at 15:16, Alejandro Tejada wrote:
Hi,
Recently, i have been studying the didactic possibilities for young
students
of
Alejandro,
I think Revolution Media came with a template stack for creating
interactive fiction gameslike myst. You might want to check that.
Andre
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Alejandro Tejada
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Hi,
Recently, i have been studying the didactic possibilities for
Rats, link slightly of..
http://www.inform-fiction.org/I7/Download%20-%20Extensions.html
http://www.inform-fiction.org/I7/Download%20-%20Documents.html
Cheers,
Luis.
On 12 Nov 2008, at 15:16, Alejandro Tejada wrote:
Hi,
Recently, i have been studying the didactic possibilities for young
Alejandro,
I think between using a card based approach as rooms or scenarios and
simple logic that this type of application is a perfect match for
Revolution. I would look into using switch statements for multiple
choices and also random() to add a little uncertainty to the game
aspect.
Alejandro wrote:
Recently, i have been studying the didactic possibilities for young students
of creating works of interactive fiction with a custom made application
created with RunRev:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interactive_fiction
From my single point of view, creating in RunRev such kind
so this is a value-added reseller product. So what is added? Updates to
what? Are you guys adding additional tools? Hacking the engine?
--
On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth
On the second day, God created the oceans.
On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a
so this is a value-added reseller product. So what is added?
Updates to what? Are you guys adding additional tools?
Hacking the engine?
Hi Mike,
We aren't a VAR. We won't hack the engine (that would introduce all sorts of
support issues), not unless its part of an add-on that's included
Why is Meshbox called Meshbox and not Mirye Meshbox?
Different branding for different target markets. In some circles, Meshbox is
a much better known brand for what the group does - primarily 3D content
licensing and some specialized 2D work, but also some audio. Just recently
Meshbox added
Tooning Malte?. Wow. cool...great idea!
http://meshbox2d.com/caricatures.html
Now if you can just get a pop at Engadget or DownloadSquad or
someother well-read blog.
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Tooning Malte?. Wow. cool...great idea!
http://meshbox2d.com/caricatures.html
Thanks Chipp! These guys make great alternative avatars as well.
There's also a (much more costly) animation service coming, too.
Best regards,
Lynn Fredricks
Mirye Software Publishing
http://www.mirye.com
Mirye
, the lucky day in China for kicking off the Olympics -
perfect for our 808 release.
Mirye Software Publishing publishes Runtime Revolution in several markets,
including North America and Japan. We aren't Runtime of course, but our
goals are in cooperation with Runtime to bring Revolution to new customer
Um, I don't get it. What is Mirye and how does this affect me?
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Um, I don't get it. What is Mirye and how does this affect me?
If you are one of our customers, it affects you. If not, it may be of
interest to you anyway if you are interested in how we are getting the word
out about Revolution.
Best regards,
Lynn Fredricks
Mirye Software Publishing
OK, then perhaps a different explanation might be of use, since I am not one
of your customers, and I still don't get it.
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OK, then perhaps a different explanation might be of use,
since I am not one of your customers, and I still don't get it.
Mirye sells Revolution too, but we are putting out a kind of update every
month, and that includes additional benefits for customers. We don't change
the software itself,
Why is Meshbox called Meshbox and not Mirye Meshbox?
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Lynn,
Why would I not rather deal directly with Runrev, and have another
chance to chat with the lovely Heather than to use Programmer's
paradise? They don't even offer PayPal.
Using Runrev's overseas based payment system is always a chore...
just pondering...
Runtime Revolution
system is always a chore...
just pondering...
Runtime Revolution, the leading cross-platform development
environment for
Windows, Linux and MacOS X is now available through Programmer's
Paradise.
The software development tools reseller sells all versions of Runtime
Revolution, from Revolution Media
Fredricks
Worldwide Business Operations
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good reasons indeed.
sqb
Stephen,
The news is that many professional programmers (dare I say most)
have never heard of Revolution/RunRev. Being in Programmer's
Paradise dramatically elevates Revolution's visibility. The
advantage is that a programmer who would never had heard of or tried
Runtime Revolution, the leading cross-platform development environment for
Windows, Linux and MacOS X is now available through Programmer's Paradise.
The software development tools reseller sells all versions of Runtime
Revolution, from Revolution Media through Revolution Enterprise.
Programmer's
Lynn-
Runtime Revolution, the leading cross-platform development environment for
Windows, Linux and MacOS X is now available through Programmer's Paradise.
The software development tools reseller sells all versions of Runtime
Revolution, from Revolution Media through Revolution Enterprise
Operations
Runtime Revolution Ltd
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Hello Friends,
Cool Web Resources for Runtime Revolution
developershttp://andregarzia.com/blog/files/articles/webapp_resources.html
A list with useful web app development resources for you all.
Cheers
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Andre, most of the links from the following cited site cannot be
found. At least that is the result I'm getting.
Joe Wilkins
On Jun 19, 2007, at 4:57 PM, Andre Garzia wrote:
Hello Friends,
Cool Web Resources for Runtime Revolution
developershttp://andregarzia.com/blog/files/articles
that is the result I'm getting.
Joe Wilkins
On Jun 19, 2007, at 4:57 PM, Andre Garzia wrote:
Hello Friends,
Cool Web Resources for Runtime Revolution
developershttp://andregarzia.com/blog/files/articles/
webapp_resources.html
A list with useful web app development resources for you all
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Andre, most of the links from the following cited site cannot be
found. At least that is the result I'm getting.
Joe Wilkins
On Jun 19, 2007, at 4:57 PM, Andre Garzia wrote:
Hello Friends,
Cool Web Resources for Runtime Revolution
that is the result I'm getting.
Joe Wilkins
On Jun 19, 2007, at 4:57 PM, Andre Garzia wrote:
Hello Friends,
Cool Web Resources for Runtime Revolution
developershttp://andregarzia.com/blog/files/articles/
webapp_resources.html
A list with useful web app development resources for you all.
Cheers
Will Someone please Tell me how to make A button i created in one of my
applications in run-time revolution only click on The left button of the
mouse, it
clicks on all three buttons of the mouse i don't like that. I have Searched
And Look on line in The Documentations A everything to figure
hi David,
here's a little script for your button
on mouseup theMouseParam
if theMouseParam is 1 then
answer You clicked the left button
else
exit mouseup
end if
end mouseup
As for the task manager, no, you can't make an app invisible. You can hide
it from the taskbar by
setting
Hi David,
Le 10 avr. 07 à 22:54, DAVID DEATON a écrit :
Will Someone please Tell me how to make A button i created in one
of my
applications in run-time revolution only click on The left button
of the mouse, it
clicks on all three buttons of the mouse i don't like that. I have
Searched
On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 13:54:01 -0700 (PDT), DAVID DEATON wrote:
Will Someone please Tell me how to make A button i created in one of my
applications in run-time revolution only click on The left button of
the mouse, it
clicks on all three buttons of the mouse i don't like that. I have
Not that I'm aware of, but why would you want to do that?
You can do it (not necessarily using Rev), but it's bad form and what's to
save the poor user if the program goes ballistic.
Scott
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Thursday, March 22, 2007, 3:58:47 PM, you wrote:
He he... 'sounds like'... he he... :)
groan
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This sounds like really great news!
Judy
On Wed, 21 Mar 2007, Lynn Fredricks wrote:
Runtime Revolution Partners with Audio Companies Mojo Audio and Meshbox
Music
Leading Interactive Media Company to Promote Royalty Free Content
Edinburgh, Scotland. Runtime Revolution Ltd, the leader
He he... 'sounds like'... he he... :)
Cheers,
Luis.
On 22 Mar 2007, at 23:34, Judy Perry wrote:
This sounds like really great news!
Judy
On Wed, 21 Mar 2007, Lynn Fredricks wrote:
Runtime Revolution Partners with Audio Companies Mojo Audio and
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Leading Interactive Media
Runtime Revolution Partners with Audio Companies Mojo Audio and Meshbox
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Edinburgh, Scotland. Runtime Revolution Ltd, the leader in multi-platform
rich media and application development tools for the Microsoft Vista and
MacOS
Runtime Revolution Joins Graphics Industry Leaders to Sponsor Renderosity
Holiday Art Contest
December 22, 2006. Runtime Revolution, makers of the leading multi-platform
rich media authoring and development tool Runtime Revolution Studio,
announces its industry sponsorship in the annual
Recently, Lynn Fredricks wrote:
December 22, 2006. Runtime Revolution, makers of the leading multi-platform
rich media authoring and development tool Runtime Revolution Studio,
announces its industry sponsorship in the annual Renderosity Holiday Art
Contest. The Renderosity Art Contest runs
Didn't we see a similar contest thingy a couple of years ago that was
similarly short of time?
Judy
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006, Scott Rossi wrote:
Recently, Lynn Fredricks wrote:
December 22, 2006. Runtime Revolution, makers of the leading multi-platform
rich media authoring and development tool
3D images produced in one day or less that
are amazing.
If you are new to 3D, I strongly recommend Vue from e-on software. Its
reasonably priced, easy to get started with, and renderer is excellent.
Best regards,
Lynn Fredricks
Worldwide Business Operations
Runtime Revolution, Ltd
Wow Lynn!
Looks fun. I'll see if I can whip something up by the end of the year.
Actually, the timing is good as I believe I'll have a couple of days
after Christmas to 'play.'
You're correct, Vue users can really crank out some stuff fast. For
those of you who have Macs and PC's you might want
Lynn Fredricks wrote:
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reasonably priced, easy to get started with, and renderer is excellent.
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Worldwide Business Operations
Runtime Revolution, Ltd
Is it merely a coincidence that e
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On 22 Dec 2006, at 20:31, Chipp Walters wrote:
I use the bigger brother for Vue, called Vue-Infinite to create some
fun pictures:
http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/vuelab/FutureLab.htm
Looks like another vaporware site to me.
Just kidding, Chipp. Fantastic stuff. My kids are impressed,
At the risk of being jumped on (again) by the RR
community, I have set
up a Wiki page on the Wikipedia for these:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Undocumented_Features_in_Runtime_Revolution
I should be most grateful if everybody could add their
wisdom to it.
sincerely, Richmond Mathewson
You're adding this to (The) Wikipedia? C'mon now I don't think that's
appropriate in the least; in fact it's an utter abuse of Wikipedia. It
violates their no original research rule and the Wikipedia is not an FAQ
rule. I personally also believe it violates the Wikipedia is not a soapbox
Dear Bill Marriott,
Understood and acted on!
sincerely, Richmond Mathewson
Philosophical problems are confusions arising owing to the fluidity of
meanings users attach to words and phrases.
I gotta agree with Bill on this one. I do think what you're proposing
would be a useful topic on the rev forums, for them that use them, but
I just don't see this a wikipedia material.
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I wouldn't use the forums to create a list of undocumented forums,
because a server crash might destroy your work. Instead, I'd create a
homepage or you might even host your own wiki somewhere. If you have
too much time on your hands, go ahead
http://www.google.co.uk/search?
Mark Weider,
I am not disputing Bill Marriott's point.
However, I remember somebody who once got slapped for
tone of message and feel that that should be
universally applied :)
OK, I'll shut up (err, only on this thread!)
sincerely, Richmond Mathewson
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Saturday, October 14, 2006, 9:50:33 AM, you wrote:
Mark Weider,
I am not disputing Bill Marriott's point.
Yep. Got it. Just a matter of email message timing. But I *do* think
that an accessible place to store the undocumented things would be
useful. I use them *very* sparingly,
of
the ide?
or is it just a mistake from runtime revolution, that a player version 2.7.4
has not been posted for download yet?
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Runtime Revolution Announces DM Galaxy 1.0.3
FREE UPDATE ADDS NUMEROUS FEATURES, ENHANCEMENTS, FIXES
September 8, 2006. Edinburgh, Scotland. Runtime Revolution Ltd, the leader
in multi-platform rich media and application development tools and Austin,
Texas-based Daniels Mara announce
Dear friends
i really apreciated the last issue of Runtime Revolution Newsletter .
For some reasons I have not received Runtime Revolution Newsletter Issue 5.
In the home page (runrev.com) the last newsletter published is number 4.
Where can I get the Runtime Revolution Newsletter Issue 5?
Best
Congratulations to all the RunRev team for the tireless work
they've put in to allow the rest of us to start shipping UB apps!
Thanks Chipp!
Best regards,
Lynn Fredricks
Worldwide Business Operations
Runtime Revolution, Ltd
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Platform
Edinburgh, Scotland. - June 2, 2006 - Runtime Revolution Ltd., a leader in
multi-platform rich media and application development tools, today announced
the release of Revolution 2.7.2, a Universal application upgrade
Congratulations to all the RunRev team for the tireless work they've
put in to allow the rest of us to start shipping UB apps!
Great job!
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Software, announce a major upgrade to Arcade
the over-all effect of this list tends to be
debilitating for them and might even neuter them creatively speaking.
It would be like watching the Catholic channel right before having
sex. Oops...I actually like that. Well, you know what I'm trying to say.
Jerry
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