save dialogue stuck

2004-02-20 Thread Friedrich F. Grohmann
I imported one medium sized HyperCard stack (approximately 5500 cards) into Rev. A considerable number of handlers had to be rewritten and now I am developing the stack further in its new environment. It works very nicely apart, alas, from the Chinese stuff but today I won't go into that... Wh

Re: save dialogue stuck

2004-02-20 Thread Marian Petrides
I have not encountered this problem, but I have found that in a stack with LOTS of objects on each card if I have the application browser open it takes a very long time for me to be able to go from the arrow selection cursor (select a text field to unlock it) to the grabber hand (to edit the te

Re: save dialogue stuck

2004-02-20 Thread Friedrich F. Grohmann
Regarding the possible causes of my problem Marian kindly pointed out, no, I don't use the App Browser here. I opened it once when I began to work on the stack under Rev to verify the composition of the background, and it took what felt like minutes to display the innards finally. I thought it

Re: save dialogue stuck

2004-02-20 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 2/20/04 6:48 PM, Friedrich F. Grohmann wrote: As to the question of the save being only slow or really hung, it would suppose it has finished, at least judging from the change of of cursor and the last line displayed in the window. You mentioned this was a fairly large stack, as Rev goes. 5,5

Re: save dialogue stuck

2004-02-22 Thread Dom
Friedrich F. Grohmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I imported one medium sized HyperCard stack (approximately 5500 cards) That's not "medium" for me ;-) As you are switching from HC to RR, think about another strategy... If there is lot of repeatitive data, why not resort to text (or bin) data o

Re: save dialogue stuck

2004-02-22 Thread Friedrich F. Grohmann
I highly appreciate Jacqueline's comments sent on 21.2.2004 10:30. At the very beginning she wrote: > >You mentioned this was a fairly large stack, as Rev goes. 5,500 cards is >pretty much the limit in Rev. A stack this size will normally take a >while to save. To be honest, this statement st

Re: save dialogue stuck

2004-02-22 Thread Scott Rossi
>> You mentioned this was a fairly large stack, as Rev goes. 5,500 cards is >> pretty much the limit in Rev. A stack this size will normally take a >> while to save. > To be honest, this statement struck me like lightening. One of the HC > stacks I use most often has more than 30 000 cards and st

Re: save dialogue stuck

2004-02-22 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 2/22/04 10:03 PM, Friedrich F. Grohmann wrote: I am now thinking of moving to Rev and you mention 5500 cards come close to the limit. This is indeed very, very bad news for me. I rushed to check the Rev documentation and it says that the maximum number of objects in a stack is "unlimited."

Re: save dialogue stuck

2004-02-23 Thread Richard Gaskin
Scott Raney used to recommend that stacks not go above > 3-5,000 cards or so before being moved to a more formal > database. That isn't a hard number, just a suggestion. That's predicated on the assumption that you're using a stack as a flat table. If you use arrays or tab-delimited chunks in cus

Re: save dialogue stuck

2004-02-23 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Richard, I am working on an addition to Panorama at the moment and before now had never heard of it. When I saw your reference below I was floored. Do you know anything else about Panorama? I need to emulate a demo where it appears to interact with Panorama. It does not actually have to but I n

Re: save dialogue stuck

2004-02-23 Thread Richard Gaskin
On 2/23/04 10:41 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Scott Raney used to recommend that stacks not go above > 3-5,000 cards or so before being moved to a more formal > database. That isn't a hard number, just a suggestion. That's predicated on the assumption that you're using a stack >> as a flat table.

Re: save dialogue stuck

2004-02-23 Thread Richard Gaskin
Tom wrote: On Feb 23, 2004, at 11:41 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Scott Raney used to recommend that stacks not go above > 3-5,000 cards or so before being moved to a more formal > database. That isn't a hard number, just a suggestion. That's predicated on the assumption that you're using a >> st

Re: save dialogue stuck

2004-02-23 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Alas, That is not in the scope of the project I am doing for them. They actually 'Love' Panorama and talk about the speed and functionality a lot. They are not DB experts but rather are very familiar with their company needs and have adapted Panorama to meet those needs. They have come out as t

Re: save dialogue stuck

2004-02-24 Thread Friedrich F. Grohmann
Some members of the list -Dom, Jacqueline, and Richard- were so kind to offer further, highly informative explanations regarding the "Rev as database" issue. My gratitude to all of them. Obviously, I have to rethink the wisdom of transferring stacks of this type to Rev. As a matter of fact, wha