Re: [JSF] history list support (Back/Forward buttons)

2006-01-24 Thread Werner Punz
Gary VanMatre schrieb: From: Michael Jouravlev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Seems that JSF-related flame on TSS http://www.theserverside.com/news/thread.tss?thread_id=38601 died, and I have left without an anwser ;-) So I am repeating the question here with some modifications in hope to get "i" dotted

Re: tiles is this url still valid

2006-01-24 Thread Werner Punz
Wendy Smoak schrieb: On 1/23/06, Werner Punz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As it seems the tiles url refers to http://struts.apache.org/tags-tiles on the tiles website. But it seems to me the url itself is not reachable anymore. Is this url still valid? That is the correct URI for Struts

Re: [JSF] history list support (Back/Forward buttons)

2006-01-24 Thread Werner Punz
Michael Jouravlev schrieb: On 1/24/06, Werner Punz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As for the checkpoint, I cannot say it exactly (maybe matthias can jump in) it probably will behave like every other page hitting the back button with no history, that is my closest assumption on what will

Re: [JSF] history list support (Back/Forward buttons)

2006-01-24 Thread Werner Punz
Sorry to answer again, this is a question which probably is asked best in the myfaces mailinglist, you might reach the author (Matthias B...) there directly. Werner Werner Punz schrieb: Actually sorry to jump in here, but I was partially wrong in my posting in the long tss thread, the

Re: [JSF] history list support (Back/Forward buttons)

2006-01-24 Thread Werner Punz
f token and detects that the received POST request is actually a resubmit of old data and should not be considered as postback. Anyway, in either case JSF has to [optionally restore viewstate] + render view according to state. The question is, where the state comes from? What are the rules for bu

tiles is this url still valid

2006-01-23 Thread Werner Punz
Hi group As it seems the tiles url refers to http://struts.apache.org/tags-tiles on the tiles website. But it seems to me the url itself is not reachable anymore. Is this url still valid? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROT

Re: Need help about data repeater in JSF

2006-01-12 Thread Werner Punz
JEEVANATHAM P. /BPCRP/INFOTECH/VASHI schrieb: > Hi all, > > > > In my screen I used data repeater tag from jsf. It's working fine me. Now I > need to call a popup called as LOV from that textbox. When we click an image > it will open a popup window. From that popup we need to set values to the

Re: [OT] Getting started is confusing [was] Re: Need advice between Shale or Struts-Faces

2006-01-12 Thread Werner Punz
Alexandre Poitras wrote: I agree with you Michael since our designer is a big fan of Zen Garden and I must say I don't miss working with tables :) I would like a strict XHTML rendererkit but I must say that at least the JSF standard components don't produce garbage . What I am doing right now is

Re: need Calendar in JSF

2006-01-12 Thread Werner Punz
Here is the demo: http://www.irian.at/myfaces/home.jsf Alexandre Poitras schrieb: > http://myfaces.apache.org/tomahawk/calendar.html > > On 1/12/06, JEEVANATHAM P. /BPCRP/INFOTECH/VASHI > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> >> >> Is there any component in JSF for date picker? >> >>

Re: [OT] Getting started is confusing [was] Re: Need advice

2006-01-12 Thread Werner Punz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: > > Hi Werner, do you mean "Derek Shen"? I found this: > http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-07-2004/jw-0719-jsf.html and he does > have a "FacesUtils" .. just wanted to make sure this si what you are > alluding to..? > yes... ---

Re: [OT] Getting started is confusing [was] Re: Need advice between Shale or Struts-Faces

2006-01-12 Thread Werner Punz
Rick Reumann schrieb: > Please don't get me wrong, I'm not anti-JSF - I really like a LOT of it. > I just wish there was some kind of effort to bring a lot of this > together into one 'framework' - I know this goes against a lot of the > open source thinking, but if Shale is that useful, which I b

Re: [OT] Getting started is confusing [was] Re: Need advice between Shale or Struts-Faces

2006-01-12 Thread Werner Punz
I am also in a hurry so I will answer more extensively later... just to your problem now Rick Reumann schrieb: > > Sort off-topic but what do you use in JSF to create a display of List > data from a managedBean? I believe I was told to use DataTable and > that's what I used in my lesson, but I t

Re: Advice for Struts expert wanting to try Shale?

2006-01-11 Thread Werner Punz
Dakota Jack wrote: The view "controller" is not a controller in the Web-MVC sense and is completely misleading, in my opinion, Mark. So part of this just may be who's dog is in the hunt? The point of the tool-based and VB analogy is that JSF tries to hide from you, to do it for you, what other

Re: Calendar Project

2006-01-11 Thread Werner Punz
Rafael Taboada wrote: > Please. Do u know a calendar project made in struts??? I mean, when u make > an appointemnt, an event > thanks > > -- > Rafael Taboada > Software Engineer > > Cell : +511-97753290 > > "No creo en el destino pues no me gusta tener la idea de controlar mi vida" > Ther

Re: [OT] Getting started is confusing [was] Re: Need advice between Shale or Struts-Faces

2006-01-11 Thread Werner Punz
Frank W. Zammetti wrote: > > String var = > (String)FacesContext.getCurrentInstance().getExternalContext().getRequestParameterMap().get("variableName"); > A yes the lovely Request Factory->context...-> cascade I personally always use either ioc for managed beans or some utils classes (there i

Re: [OT] Getting started is confusing [was] Re: Need advice between Shale or Struts-Faces

2006-01-11 Thread Werner Punz
Hi Rick the confusion you are talking about, is basically the same you have by jumping onto any framework. Mind you that I had to move from JSF to Struts for a project a while ago, and I had the same feeling backwards ;-) A very good entry point into jsf is: www.jsftutorials.net/ But as is I can

Re: Refactoring JSP to JSF (and then possibly to Shale)

2006-01-11 Thread Werner Punz
Chan, Jim wrote: > I am refactoring my company's JSP website because the code uses only JSP to > control navigation. You can imagine its pretty ugly. Anyway, I decided to > use JSF and possibly move to Shale once I've gained a handle on the > framework. I successfully deployed some of the pages

Re: Refactoring JSP to JSF (and then possibly to Shale)

2006-01-11 Thread Werner Punz
Rick Reumann wrote: > > Actually you bring up one of the reasons I'm not in love JSF at the > moment. I know most people like the idea of using pre-built or custom > renderers and get all googly eyed over the nice things you can get > out-of-the-box from MyFaces or Oracle ADF, but I guess I'm sti

Re: [OT] Struts + AJAX Trumps JSF

2005-10-14 Thread Werner Punz
Frank W. Zammetti wrote: > So no, I don't think Ajax is the great savior or anything, nor is it the > future of web development in and of itself. How I think it will be > remembered though is in showing that RIAs are viable and that the real > paradigm shift isn't Ajax itself, but is the underlyi

Re: [OT] Struts + AJAX Trumps JSF

2005-10-14 Thread Werner Punz
Kito D. Mann wrote: >>>At this point, with the clear promise of AJAX, I cannot see >> >>any reason >> >>>to give up Struts and go to JSF. If I was starting a new web >>>application today, I would use Struts and AJAX. >> >>Not that I going to jump JSF anytime soon, but: >>http://www.icesoft.co

Re: Premature Session Close

2005-10-06 Thread Werner Punz
I ran into a situation like that once, the application was using iframes internally which triggered other sessions... Werner Martin Ravell wrote: > I’m running Struts, Tiles, Hibernate 2 and Spring in my project and have > been attempting for some time to get the OpenSessionInView pattern to wor

Re: [Shale]Newbie question

2005-10-06 Thread Werner Punz
Michael Jouravlev wrote: > I believe, that similar behaviour (different presentation depending on > action/page state) is possible in JSF with subviews and "rendered" > attribute. At least that what David Geary advised me to do, when I was > porting my wizard engine to JSF. > Yes indeed that is e

Re: [Shale]Newbie question

2005-10-06 Thread Werner Punz
Greg Reddin wrote: > I don't have any experience with the render kit, so I may have missed > the point of it. Keep in mind that my comments are based on very > limited experience with JSF so I hope if I've missed something someone > else will correct me. But, when going through some tutorials

Re: [Shale]Newbie question

2005-10-05 Thread Werner Punz
Michael Jouravlev wrote: > On 10/4/05, Leon Rosenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Btw, struts is perfectly crawlable, since you have a different url for >>each page. This will not let you index a concrete page, but the whole >>site will be at list indexed. In opposite, a JSF site will return >>

Re: [Shale]Newbie question

2005-10-05 Thread Werner Punz
Greg Reddin wrote: > In my limited experience with JSF it does not seem to contain > templating capabilities. So in Struts classic I would use Tiles for > creating site templates as well as reusable views (or component-based > views). But with JSF Tiles still proves useful for templating and

Re: What Is the URL to Join the Discussion of JSF?

2005-08-30 Thread Werner Punz
Caroline Jen wrote: I start using the JSF. But, I cannot find the place where I can join the discussion of JSF at the jakarta.apache.org. What is the exact URL? Please help. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protect

Re: weird message problem

2005-08-14 Thread Werner Punz
Laurie Harper wrote: Not everybody on this list is chained to their desk through the weekend... :-) Well, yes good answer ;-) No, it means that it can't find a message resource with the key 'type mismatch failure...'. The argument to the ActionMessage constructor should be a resource key to

Re: weird message problem

2005-08-14 Thread Werner Punz
Albrecht Leiprecht wrote: Shouldn't it be something like or both caused the same weird error, btw.. html:messages needs an enforced id flag according to the tld. Werner - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For ad

Re: weird message problem

2005-08-14 Thread Werner Punz
thanks I will try it out, I knew it was something I must have missed Werner Albrecht Leiprecht wrote: Shouldn't it be something like or instead? Rgds albi -Original Message- From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Werner Punz Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005

Re: weird message problem

2005-08-14 Thread Werner Punz
Come on, has nobody had this problem so far? I am really stuck here. Werner Werner Punz wrote: Hi I am trying to add a simple error handler to a form with a message upon an error condition, so far it works, some kind of message arrives but I get a weird error, here are the relevant code

weird message problem

2005-08-13 Thread Werner Punz
Hi I am trying to add a simple error handler to a form with a message upon an error condition, so far it works, some kind of message arrives but I get a weird error, here are the relevant code snippets: the part where the error is added: ActionMessages errors = new ActionMessage

Re: [OT] Hibernate vs. iBatis vs. POJO

2005-07-29 Thread Werner Punz
Pilgrim, Peter wrote: I think the jewel in the crown with the EJB 3 specification is actually the new persistent model sub part of it. Following Linda De Michels and Scott Crawford presentations at JavaONE this year, you should be able to persist POJOs with any O/RM implementation that supplies

Re: [OT] Hibernate vs. iBatis vs. POJO

2005-07-29 Thread Werner Punz
Stéphane Zuckerman wrote: netsql a écrit : So are you saying Hibreante for big complex or iBatis for big complex? I don't know about iBatis, but Hibernate is definitely for medium to big projects. The real "complexity" of Hibernate is in its configuration (there is more or less one Java cl

Re: bean traversal question

2005-07-28 Thread Werner Punz
Rick Reumann wrote: Michael Jouravlev wrote the following on 7/28/2005 4:30 PM: Ahem, actually I am all in for sessions. I just don't see why it storing stuff in an action form with session scope is universally frowned upon, while sticking same stuff directly into session is OK ;-) Most seem

Re: bean traversal question

2005-07-28 Thread Werner Punz
Michael Jouravlev wrote: On a side note, I cannot get why storing data in an action form is considered wrong, while directly accessing session is OK. I think Well it is quite the opposite in JSF... using the session is sort of a secure source of getting heavy beating (which is half right but

Re: bean traversal question

2005-07-28 Thread Werner Punz
Michael Jouravlev wrote: On 7/28/05, Werner Punz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I after Wendy gave me the advice to rephrase the question I will try to rephrase it. Being new to struts, I want to know how people deal with data objects which need a scope bigger than request but smalle

Re: bean traversal question

2005-07-28 Thread Werner Punz
Michael Jouravlev wrote: There are no standard ways to do this. Creating wizards myself, I was thinking about some kind of garbage collector for session object. This project: http://wfnm.sourceforge.net/ seems to have this feature. It has some other features so I don't know can you pull out the

Re: bean traversal question

2005-07-28 Thread Werner Punz
I after Wendy gave me the advice to rephrase the question I will try to rephrase it. Being new to struts, I want to know how people deal with data objects which need a scope bigger than request but smaller than session. I will give an example, you have some kind of wizard interface with myriad

bean traversal question

2005-07-27 Thread Werner Punz
Hi I am banging sort of my head here I am sort of new to struts (due to project requirements), in every webapp you often have the problem of having to pass complex objects over a handful of forms. In JSP you only have the option of pushing the object into the session and fill the data by h

Re: [shale] questions

2005-07-27 Thread Werner Punz
The myfaces wiki I meant - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [shale] questions

2005-07-27 Thread Werner Punz
May I drop the info on the wiki? Werner Wendy Smoak wrote: From: "Abdullah Jibaly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I want to start learning about Shale and have a couple questions to start out with: 1- What is the difference between Shale and MyFaces? MyFaces (http://myfaces.apache.org/) is an imple

tiles problem

2005-07-23 Thread Werner Punz
Hi I am trying to get tiles up and running and so far I am trying to do a simple tiled forward the problem is, I can call the forwarded page directly and it displays but as soon as I call the tiles definition name I get errors here are my config files: Struts Configuration 1.2//EN" "http://st