Re: [OT] Are you using Tapestry?

2005-01-27 Thread Jim Barrows
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 20:38:44 +0100, PA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jan 27, 2005, at 20:29, Jim Barrows wrote: > > > Record/Object are sort of the same. > > Hmmm... no. A database row is a database row. Period. > > The rest is algebra. A record is not necessarily a single database row fro

Re: [OT] Are you using Tapestry?

2005-01-27 Thread PA
On Jan 27, 2005, at 20:29, Jim Barrows wrote: Record/Object are sort of the same. Hmmm... no. A database row is a database row. Period. The rest is algebra. An object on the other hand is anything your OO implementation language of choice allow you to express. Certainly "Create Read Update Delete

Re: [OT] Are you using Tapestry?

2005-01-27 Thread Jim Barrows
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 19:38:44 +0100, PA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jan 27, 2005, at 19:20, Jim Barrows wrote: > > > I'm speaking of frameworks that do a lot of the work for you, which > > Rails seems to. > > Hmmm... ok... so when you say that, and under some circumstances, "CRUD > direct m

Re: [OT] Are you using Tapestry?

2005-01-27 Thread PA
On Jan 27, 2005, at 19:20, Jim Barrows wrote: I'm speaking of frameworks that do a lot of the work for you, which Rails seems to. Hmmm... ok... so when you say that, and under some circumstances, "CRUD direct mapping doesn't work" you barely implies that direct mapping of database record to what

Re: [OT] Are you using Tapestry?

2005-01-27 Thread Jim Barrows
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 19:03:21 +0100, PA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jan 27, 2005, at 18:50, Jim Barrows wrote: > > > http://www.lightbody.net/~plightbo/archives/000144.html > > "RoR is simply a RESTful CRUD framework" sounds like very high praise > to my uninformed hears :) > > > If you're

Re: [OT] Are you using Tapestry?

2005-01-27 Thread PA
On Jan 27, 2005, at 18:50, Jim Barrows wrote: http://www.lightbody.net/~plightbo/archives/000144.html "RoR is simply a RESTful CRUD framework" sounds like very high praise to my uninformed hears :) If you're trying to do anything beyond CRUD direct mapping doesn't work. Hmmm... care to elaborate

Re: [OT] Are you using Tapestry?

2005-01-27 Thread Jim Barrows
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:40:51 -0500, Kris Schneider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Even more bizarre that it's a sibling Apache project. Along that same line, I > thought this was just hilarious: I'm taking this in a friendly competitive way rather then as animosity. > > http://www.lightbody.net/~p

Re: [OT] Are you using Tapestry?

2005-01-27 Thread Kris Schneider
Even more bizarre that it's a sibling Apache project. Along that same line, I thought this was just hilarious: http://www.lightbody.net/~plightbo/archives/000144.html Because, and I'll risk a generalization here, the WebWork devs have always been pretty public about their loathing of Struts. Now