Re: maintaining human standards [was Re: [FRIDAY] Re: has struts reached the saturation]

2006-03-28 Thread Dakota Jack
If you leave out the substance of a conversation to say something that is so dark that no one can figure out what it means, then you have truly, truly reached the apex of the natural curve to your career, Newton. Congratulations. Would you care to say something about the issues Jonathan has raised

Re: maintaining human standards [was Re: [FRIDAY] Re: has struts reached the saturation]

2006-03-28 Thread Dave Newton
Dakota Jack wrote: > Newton, you remind me of a 13 year old girl. Ooo, guess I'd better watch my back then, huh. > Have you ever said anything worth reading? > I'll assume that's rhetorical, since only others could answer that. Dave ---

Re: maintaining human standards [was Re: [FRIDAY] Re: has struts reached the saturation]

2006-03-27 Thread Dakota Jack
This is on topic? What about the substantive question, Craig, that you quizzically said was "WILDLY" off topic. Do you even care to appear consistent? On 3/27/06, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 3/27/06, Larry Meadors <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > So...are any of the othe

Re: maintaining human standards [was Re: [FRIDAY] Re: has struts reached the saturation]

2006-03-27 Thread Dakota Jack
So Craig now has committer rights on who is a first class citizen? Quite frankly, I thought Craig would at least defend the people he put in place and the people who tore down the house with some excuses other than "we had to make bad code because we are genius's". But, rather than do that, he co

Re: maintaining human standards [was Re: [FRIDAY] Re: has struts reached the saturation]

2006-03-27 Thread Dakota Jack
Don't complain about the content of the list again, Mitchell. You don't have the fortitude to respond to questiona about the failure of Struts even though you are an active committer and you complain about this thread, and yet, like most of the complainers about the thread, you take it down this p

Re: maintaining human standards [was Re: [FRIDAY] Re: has struts reached the saturation]

2006-03-27 Thread Dakota Jack
Newton, you remind me of a 13 year old girl. Why don't you offer something worthwhile once in your life. Have you ever said anything worth reading? Please take your giggling and your curtesying elsewhere. And, leave the "little boys" alone. On 3/27/06, Dave Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >

Re: maintaining human standards [was Re: [FRIDAY] Re: has struts reached the saturation]

2006-03-27 Thread Jonathan Revusky
Larry Meadors wrote: So...are any of the others as bad as this butt-monkey? Larry, Craig brought up the issue of whether certain content was off-topic for the list, but what about something like your comment here, which simply has no content and there is no attempt for it to have any content

Re: maintaining human standards [was Re: [FRIDAY] Re: has struts reached the saturation]

2006-03-27 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 3/27/06, Larry Meadors <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So...are any of the others as bad as this butt-monkey? You mean the WW2 guys? All the ones I've met are first class citizens. By the way, Jonathan is *not* a WW2 committer -- he's involved in Freemarker. Larry Craig

Re: maintaining human standards [was Re: [FRIDAY] Re: has struts reached the saturation]

2006-03-27 Thread Larry Meadors
So...are any of the others as bad as this butt-monkey? Larry On 3/27/06, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 3/27/06, Vinny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Maybe it's time we heard from the WW2 guys? > > > Several of them have already spoken up ... on the dev list, where it > belo

Re: maintaining human standards [was Re: [FRIDAY] Re: has struts reached the saturation]

2006-03-27 Thread Jonathan Revusky
Vinny wrote: Maybe it's time we heard from the WW2 guys? Does Jonathan represent the viewpoint of the WW2 developers that are coming on board? Actually, I'm not a WW2 developer. However, FreeMarker is used pretty centrally in WW2 and FreeMarker currently is largely my fault. Seriously I'd

Re: maintaining human standards [was Re: [FRIDAY] Re: has struts reached the saturation]

2006-03-27 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
Wow... as far as a George Carlin sketch goes, that's grand! "...arrogant little a**-licking toady bastards..." Hehe, I gotta remember that one. I think "toady" makes it special :) Frank James Mitchell wrote: Now, it's obviously a valid question that Struts developers should answer. It _is_

Re: maintaining human standards [was Re: [FRIDAY] Re: has struts reached the saturation]

2006-03-27 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 3/27/06, Vinny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Maybe it's time we heard from the WW2 guys? Several of them have already spoken up ... on the dev list, where it belongs, where stuff gets decided. Craig

Re: maintaining human standards [was Re: [FRIDAY] Re: has struts reached the saturation]

2006-03-27 Thread Vinny
Maybe it's time we heard from the WW2 guys? Does Jonathan represent the viewpoint of the WW2 developers that are coming on board? Seriously I'd rather use Spring, Wicket or Rife than use something made by people like this guy. On 3/27/06, Jonathan Revusky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michael Jo

Re: maintaining human standards [was Re: [FRIDAY] Re: has struts reached the saturation]

2006-03-27 Thread Dave Newton
Jonathan Revusky wrote: > I think it was a very bad idea on his part. Of course _you_ do, you foul-mouthed little boy! _I_ think it was great :D I'm _still_ all a-giggle! Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For

Re: maintaining human standards [was Re: [FRIDAY] Re: has struts reached the saturation]

2006-03-27 Thread Jonathan Revusky
Michael Jouravlev wrote: On 3/27/06, James Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Now, it's obviously a valid question that Struts developers should answer. It _is_ an invalid question, that's why everyone is ignoring you. And now, I'd like to respond to you with your own words, from your own

Re: maintaining human standards [was Re: [FRIDAY] Re: has struts reached the saturation]

2006-03-27 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 3/27/06, Dave Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > James Mitchell wrote: > > [ Jonathon's well-reasoned response ;] So the whole thing was Jonathan's monologue? In this case I admire his breadth of writing styles. I am still wondering how the whole merger will work out with FreeMarker being def

Re: maintaining human standards [was Re: [FRIDAY] Re: has struts reached the saturation]

2006-03-27 Thread Dave Newton
*rotflmao* That's beautiful! I kinda wish _I_ would have gotten that response, though :( James Mitchell wrote: > [ Jonathon's well-reasoned response ;] You just brightened my day _considerably_! Thanks :D Dave - To unsubsc

Re: maintaining human standards [was Re: [FRIDAY] Re: has struts reached the saturation]

2006-03-27 Thread Ted Husted
On 3/27/06, Michael Jouravlev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > First, why replying in public list? Then, who said what exactly? > (would be interesting to know, since you offloaded this pile into a > public list). Personally, I'm not interested, and I'm dev/nulling the whole thread. But, then I don't

Re: maintaining human standards [was Re: [FRIDAY] Re: has struts reached the saturation]

2006-03-27 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 3/27/06, James Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Now, it's obviously a valid question that Struts developers should > > answer. > > It _is_ an invalid question, that's why everyone is ignoring you. > > > And now, I'd like to respond to you with your own words, from your > own not-so-kind o

maintaining human standards [was Re: [FRIDAY] Re: has struts reached the saturation]

2006-03-27 Thread James Mitchell
Now, it's obviously a valid question that Struts developers should answer. It _is_ an invalid question, that's why everyone is ignoring you. And now, I'd like to respond to you with your own words, from your own not-so-kind off list response to me (of course, censored because this is a pu