[ANN] hawtio: a new lightweight HTML5 console for Apache Camel, ActiveMQ, JMX, OSGi & Fuse Fabric

2013-01-25 Thread James Strachan
For the impatient just look here :) http://hawt.io/ Background == We've had numerous consoles all over the place for some time in various projects like Felix, Karaf, ActiveMQ, Camel, Tomcat, Fuse Fabric to name but a few. Many of them quite heavy weight requiring a custom web app to be dep

Re: [ANN] hawtio: a new lightweight HTML5 console for Apache Camel, ActiveMQ, JMX, OSGi & Fuse Fabric

2013-01-25 Thread Martin Stiborský
Hello, it looks really nice…I just give it a try, trying to install it in Karaf, where is my Camel project running, but after ~50 minut I wasn't succesfull. I was trying to utilize Fuse features.xml, to install hawtio, but that wasn't probably good idea :) I'll come back to it later, but if there i

Re: [ANN] hawtio: a new lightweight HTML5 console for Apache Camel, ActiveMQ, JMX, OSGi & Fuse Fabric

2013-01-25 Thread James Strachan
If the feature file doesn't work you could just try this: * add this line to your etc/org.ops4j.pax.url.mvn.cfg (which won't be needed once we've released 1.0 soon ;) org.ops4j.pax.url.mvn.repositories= \ https://oss.sonatype.org/content/repositories/snapshots=sonatype.snapshot.repo \ * th

Re: [ANN] hawtio: a new lightweight HTML5 console for Apache Camel, ActiveMQ, JMX, OSGi & Fuse Fabric

2013-01-25 Thread Łukasz Dywicki
Gentelmans, Especially from Fuse. We have something similar already in Karaf repository and it's called WebConsole. It been there since 2011. I'm sure you was aware of that, especially Guilliaume. There was example how to use it together with Camel and ServiceMix. But you never took time to take

Re: [ANN] hawtio: a new lightweight HTML5 console for Apache Camel, ActiveMQ, JMX, OSGi & Fuse Fabric

2013-01-25 Thread James Strachan
On 25 January 2013 11:51, Łukasz Dywicki wrote: > Gentelmans, > Especially from Fuse. We have something similar already in Karaf repository > and it's called WebConsole. It been there since 2011. I'm sure you was aware > of that, especially Guilliaume. I'm aware of most of the consoles at Apach

Re: [ANN] hawtio: a new lightweight HTML5 console for Apache Camel, ActiveMQ, JMX, OSGi & Fuse Fabric

2013-01-25 Thread Preben.Asmussen
Preben -- View this message in context: http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/ANN-hawtio-a-new-lightweight-HTML5-console-for-Apache-Camel-ActiveMQ-JMX-OSGi-Fuse-Fabric-tp5726244p5726252.html Sent from the Camel - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [ANN] hawtio: a new lightweight HTML5 console for Apache Camel, ActiveMQ, JMX, OSGi & Fuse Fabric

2013-01-25 Thread James Strachan
On 25 January 2013 12:58, Preben.Asmussen wrote: > Gave it a ride to test it and it looks awesome. > Thanks! > Still prefer VisualVM when it comes to monitoring though. Besides JMX > threads, CPU and mem can be accessed here too. Ye

Re: [ANN] hawtio: a new lightweight HTML5 console for Apache Camel, ActiveMQ, JMX, OSGi & Fuse Fabric

2013-01-25 Thread Guillaume Nodet
Lukasz, I'm sorry you're angry, but you're missing the point that the Karaf web console is bound to OSGi even if it can be reused with Camel or ActiveMQ. So the Camel and ActiveMQ community will never drop their own console, because the OSGi users is only a fraction of the user base. Hawtio enable

Re: [ANN] hawtio: a new lightweight HTML5 console for Apache Camel, ActiveMQ, JMX, OSGi & Fuse Fabric

2013-01-25 Thread Łukasz Dywicki
I'm not angry. I'm just telling the truth. Nobody told to you yet. Why you think it's bound to OSGi? We have WAR packaging. Overall destination was always to support other runtimes. Charles was talking about that and he found even a name for it once it will get TLP (Orion). But it was so long ag

Re: [ANN] hawtio: a new lightweight HTML5 console for Apache Camel, ActiveMQ, JMX, OSGi & Fuse Fabric

2013-01-25 Thread Guillaume Nodet
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Łukasz Dywicki wrote: > I'm not angry. I'm just telling the truth. Nobody told to you yet. Thx for that, I think I was really erring on the dark side before ;-) > Why you think it's bound to OSGi? We have WAR packaging. Overall > destination was always to su

Re: [ANN] hawtio: a new lightweight HTML5 console for Apache Camel, ActiveMQ, JMX, OSGi & Fuse Fabric

2013-01-25 Thread Hadrian Zbarcea
I personally find the tone of this exchange very distasteful and I would much appreciate you continuing it on other media channels than the @camel user lists. FWIW, Lukasz made some valid points. However, you saw a need for a new project, created it, great. Hawt.io is nice, please continue to

Re: [ANN] hawtio: a new lightweight HTML5 console for Apache Camel, ActiveMQ, JMX, OSGi & Fuse Fabric

2013-01-25 Thread Hadrian Zbarcea
This is one more reason why the hawt.io discussions should take place in the hawt.io communities. Not here. Thanks, Hadrian On 01/25/2013 08:08 AM, Guillaume Nodet wrote: Lukasz, I'm sorry you're angry, but you're missing the point that the Karaf web console is bound to OSGi even if it can be

Re: [ANN] hawtio: a new lightweight HTML5 console for Apache Camel, ActiveMQ, JMX, OSGi & Fuse Fabric

2013-01-25 Thread Guillaume Nodet
You misunderstood me. So I rephrase. Camel and ActiveMQ community needs a versatile console which can run in a non OSGi environement, so they can't drop their current web console in favor of the karaf one. This discussion is imho totally relevant for the camel community, as it is for all other p

Re: [ANN] hawtio: a new lightweight HTML5 console for Apache Camel, ActiveMQ, JMX, OSGi & Fuse Fabric

2013-01-25 Thread Hadrian Zbarcea
Ok, that is a different discussion I would rather have in the context of Camel 3.0. I will start a separate thread for this. Having the conversation in the context of the subject of this thread may be confusing. Sorry for the misunderstanding. Cheers, Hadrian On 01/25/2013 10:42 AM, Guillaum

Re: [ANN] hawtio: a new lightweight HTML5 console for Apache Camel, ActiveMQ, JMX, OSGi & Fuse Fabric

2013-01-25 Thread Guillaume Nodet
FWIW, I think I first mentioned hawtio in the Camel 3.0 thread (message from 8:27 am) when you asked Lukasz to look at the lightweight web console, only saying we should look at it. James started this different thread to actually not pollute the Camel 3 discussion with hawtio details. So I think

Re: [ANN] hawtio: a new lightweight HTML5 console for Apache Camel, ActiveMQ, JMX, OSGi & Fuse Fabric

2013-01-27 Thread Christian Müller
Hi James (and all others involved creating this product)! Congrats for this product. It looks awesome (without having the time to go into the details until now). I wish you success with it. At present, I think the best is to let the project grow up at GitHub and see whether it will get a solid us

Re: [ANN] hawtio: a new lightweight HTML5 console for Apache Camel, ActiveMQ, JMX, OSGi & Fuse Fabric

2013-01-27 Thread Maruan Sahyoun
for me it worked issuing install https://oss.sonatype.org/content/repositories/snapshots/io/hawt/hawtio-web/1.0-SNAPSHOT/hawtio-web-1.0-20130125.104750-35.war instead of the mvn url With kind regards Maruan Sahyoun Am 27.01.2013 um 19:43 schrieb Christian Müller : > Hi James (and all others

Re: [ANN] hawtio: a new lightweight HTML5 console for Apache Camel, ActiveMQ, JMX, OSGi & Fuse Fabric

2013-01-27 Thread Hadrian Zbarcea
Well, I think I do understand the issue Lukasz is bringing up. I am blaming his ESL on not sending the message across very well. One thing would help (I think) is to move the traffic related to hawt.io on the hawt.io site, off the @camel lists. (Same goes for the camel-extra project.) Cheers

Re: [ANN] hawtio: a new lightweight HTML5 console for Apache Camel, ActiveMQ, JMX, OSGi & Fuse Fabric

2013-01-28 Thread James Strachan
On 27 January 2013 18:43, Christian Müller wrote: > Hi James (and all others involved creating this product)! > > Congrats for this product. It looks awesome (without having the time to go > into the details until now). I wish you success with it. > Many thanks! At present, I think the best is

Re: [ANN] hawtio: a new lightweight HTML5 console for Apache Camel, ActiveMQ, JMX, OSGi & Fuse Fabric

2013-01-28 Thread James Strachan
Just in case others are trying it in karaf; we just hit an issue deploying hawtio in jboss; so have made 'hawtio-osgi' for deploying hawtio in OSGi containers; then 'hawtio-web.war' works out of the box in Tomcat, Jetty, JBoss. So the command line is now this until we cut a release: install https